DanyelleLeafty #mglitchat with the lovely @rachelgrinti
starts in 15 minutes! Topic: family structure in middle grade fiction. -8:47 PM
May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti RT @DanyelleLeafty: #mglitchat with the lovely
@rachelgrinti starts in 15 minutes! Topic: family structure in middle grade
fiction. -8:49 PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS My first chat in 2 weeks- oh, how I've missed you!
:) #mglitchat -8:57 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @Becky_AS glad to have you back! #mglitchat -8:58
PM May 3rd, 2012
AlisonHertz #mglitchat I'm here are few minutes early. Been
trying to get here (on time) for weeks! -8:59 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AlisonHertz Glad you made it! #mglitchat -8:59
PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta I'm here for #mglitchat! -8:59 PM May 3rd,
2012
Becky_AS @AnshaKotyk Thanks- and reading the transcripts
when you miss is just not the same... #mglitchat -9:00 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @kurtisscaletta Wlcome! #mglitchat -9:00 PM
May 3rd, 2012
AlisonHertz @rachelgrinti #mglitchat Thanks! Family
structure - um...meaning what exactly? -9:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Hi all! It's time for #mglitchat! Tonight we're
talking about family structures. We'll define that a bit further in the next
tweet. ;) -9:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
AlisonHertz #mglitchat Uh oh - kids need me. I guess I can
say I was here for a minute. ; 0 -9:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty RT @rachelgrinti: Hi all! It's time for
#mglitchat! Tonight we're talking about family structures. We'll define that a
bit further in the next tweet. ;) -9:02 PM May 3rd, 2012
Jess_Keating Hello, #mglitchat! -9:02 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @Mike_Jung @Jess_Keating Welcome! #mglitchat
-9:02 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Basically, tonight encompasses different types
of families. Stepfamilies, single parents, gay parents, grandparents, and so on
#mglitchat -9:02 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @Jess_Keating Hello and welcome! #mglitchat -9:02
PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @Jess_Keating Hallo! #mglitchat -9:03 PM May
3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Some family types are more present in MG than
others. Some mean a book faces more resistance in the market or in schools.
#mglitchat -9:03 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk We've all read the absent parents... but what
about the various family structures that inhabit mg fiction? #mglitchat -9:04
PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria Good evening, mglitchatters! I haven't been
here in awhile... #mglitchat -9:04 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @kingdomofpatria Welcome! #mglitchat -9:05 PM May
3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti I'm thinking of "book reality" vs.
reality. So many absent parents, but other types (gay parents for example)
underrepresented. #mglitchat -9:05 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @rachelgrinti Can we start a list of books with
varying family structures? #mglitchat -9:07 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria The default move in MG fiction seems to be
to get rid of the parents in some fashion, by death or by some other absence.
True? #mglitchat -9:07 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AnshaKotyk Yep, that was going to be my next
thought. #mindmeld #mglitchat -9:07 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon I'm working on a novel where the MCs are orphan
brother & sister, living in fear of a monstrous governess #mglitchat -9:07
PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @kingdomofpatria It seems like it. #mglitchat
-9:08 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin I'm cohosting a blog series about gay
parents in YA at the end of the month. We'd love more bloggers if anyone is
interested. #mglitchat -9:08 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti So yes, we have the orphans or the almost
orphans (parents not attentive, see: Willoughbys) #mglitchat -9:08 PM May 3rd,
2012
AnshaKotyk So instead of absent parent/guardian tonight
we're focusing on who is present. #mglitchat -9:08 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin I love it when authors are creative about
the family structure. Not just getting rid of the adults! #mglitchat -9:09 PM
May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty Me too! RT @KristineAsselin: I love it when
authors are creative about the family structure. Not just getting rid of the
adults! #mglitchat -9:09 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Our book deals with step-families and we get
a lot of good feedback about that. It is very common place now days. #mglitchat
-9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria But I'm intrigued also by MG books in which
the whole family--mom, dad, brothers, sisters--goes through the adventure
together. #mglitchat -9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Me too! RT @KristineAsselin: I love it when
authors are creative about the family structure. Not just getting rid of the
adults! #mglitchat -9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS @DanyelleLeafty @KristineAsselin Any examples come
to mind? #mglitchat -9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti I feel like grandparents often play strong roles.
#mglitchat -9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta #mglitchat @kingdomofpatria It's not always
true but there is definitely some truth to it (and I think a necessary one).
-9:10 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @kingdomofpatria Yes -- there's a lot of cool stuff
you can do with family dynamics when they're experiencing events together!
#mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @mikegrinti The Brilliant Fall of Gianna Z comes
to mind with strong family and grandparent #mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @Becky_AS I did . . . and then my mind went
blank. >.< #ack @KristineAsselin #mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta What do we mean by family
"structure"? #mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon It's a light-hearted fantasy, inspired by Dahl,
Ridley, et al. So they'll be very close, and outsmart the grouchy woman
#mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung Any examples of creative family structure? It's
tough to get MG protags into the action with families that are TOO present.
#mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin Yes! Good one! RT @AnshaKotyk: @mikegrinti
The Brilliant Fall of Gianna Z comes to mind with strong family and grandparent
#mglitchat -9:11 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry #mglitchat Many stories w/ absent parents have
a sibling group w/ kids who function as parents. Peter & Susan in Narnia
for example. -9:12 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti Dany Noir had great single-mom and step-family. I
liked that she had to visit dad. Had many friends living halfsies growing up.
#mglitchat -9:12 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin Mom was a great--not absent--character in
When You Reach Me by Rebecca Stead. #mglitchat -9:12 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @mikegrinti *taking notes* I've heard a lot
of good things about this one. #mglitchat -9:12 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @Mike_Jung I think there has to be a fine balance
between main character with active family in the story #mglitchat -9:12 PM May
3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta Siblings are one of my favorite topics.
#mglitchat (@RosanneParry) -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @Mike_Jung Depends on the action. So many
problems, fantastical and not, can't be solved by parental intervention. #mglitchat
-9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @Mike_Jung Well, it's not a book, but The
Incredibles is a good example... #Mglitchat -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters RT @kurtisscaletta: Siblings are one of my
favorite topics. #mglitchat (@RosanneParry) #mglitchat -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @mikegrinti DANI NOIR is sublime, but isn't it an
example of absent parents? The divorce creating the absence, in that case.
#mglitchat -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @DanyelleLeafty It's being reissued with the
title Fade Out sometime this year. And it's awesome! #mglitchat -9:13 PM May
3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty Loved this one! RT @SympleSymon: @Mike_Jung
Well, it's not a book, but The Incredibles is a good example... #Mglitchat
-9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @SympleSymon comic book. ;) but I love that
example! #Mglitchat -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @DanyelleLeafty It's one of my favorite books
about divorce ever. Also one of my favorite books ever. <3 <3 <3
#mglitchat -9:13 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @mikegrinti Lots of wonderful grandparents in
MG. Far more than in YA. #mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @rachelgrinti Awesome! Will be checking it
out when it releases. Thanks! #mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria Question: does MG fiction require some
family dysfunction in order to set the protag(s) free to roam? #mglitchat -9:14
PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @Mike_Jung Well, both parents were in the book,
as was a step parent and step sibling. But you could argue that, sure.
#mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters RT @RosanneParry: @mikegrinti Lots of
wonderful grandparents in MG. Far more than in YA. #mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd,
2012
mikegrinti @RosanneParry Interesting point! I wonder why?
#mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @mikegrinti Thanks! I'll definitely be
checking it out. :D #mglitchat -9:14 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Yes. RT @kingdomofpatria: Question: does MG
fiction require some family dysfunction in order to set the protag(s) free to
roam? #mglitchat -9:15 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @mikegrinti I guess it's a matter of defining the
level of "absence." Not living together is a kind of absence, for
example. #mglitchat -9:15 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @nardinisisters I think it's far easier to write
if the family is absent/dysfunctional #mglitchat -9:15 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @kingdomofpatria Nah, not require. Encourage?
Maybe, but I like it when the family stays around, even if peripherally.
#mglitchat -9:15 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty @nardinisisters @kingdomofpatria The 13th
Reality series has a pretty healthy family dynamic. #mglitchat -9:15 PM May
3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @kingdomofpatria I don't think so. But how do
you define dysfunction? #mglitchat -9:15 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria Examining my hypothesis: Oliver Twist, Pip,
David Copperfield...they all came from troubled homes. #mglitchat -9:16 PM May
3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @kurtisscaletta Me too! Interesting that there
are more stories w/ many sisters than those w/ many brothers. #mglitchat -9:16
PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @kingdomofpatria I don't like when adventure = no
family. They're not exclusive! #mglitchat -9:16 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @mikegrinti With divorce it's not necessarily a
reflection on the parent w/o custody, but it's ACUTELY felt by the child.
#mglitchat -9:16 PM May 3rd, 2012
DanyelleLeafty Good point. :) RT @mikegrinti:
@kingdomofpatria I don't like when adventure = no family. They're not
exclusive! #mglitchat -9:16 PM May 3rd, 2012
susan_marie On family structure: Kevin Henkes is an
interesting author for this. His children are written in the middle of family
life. #mglitchat -9:16 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @kingdomofpatria Not always: the family in
Charlie and the Chocolate Factory were normal, overcrowding issues aside
#mglitchat -9:16 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @nardinisisters @kingdomofpatria many
circumstances - 9 yr olds run wild in my neighborhood; it's functional, not
dysfunctional #mglitchat -9:17 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @Mike_Jung Absolutely. And I love how Dani feels
so abandoned even while both parents are still in her life! #mglitchat -9:17 PM
May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @susan_marie I'll have to check that out.
#mglitchat -9:17 PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS @mikegrinti Can they stay peripherally while being
dysfunctional? :) #mglitchat -9:17 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @mikegrinti I don't think so, either...just
testing this hypothesis. I like imagining the prospect of a story with intact
family #mglitchat -9:17 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters It's more fun for children to read and relate
to their own. Not saying family can't be visible but more behind the scenes.
#mglitchat -9:17 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @kingdomofpatria #mglitchat I prefer my stories
to have conflict external to the family around which they band together. a
personal quirk? -9:18 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta @susan_marie What do you mean by
"written in the middle of family life"? #mglitchat -9:18 PM May 3rd,
2012
mikegrinti @kurtisscaletta Cavalier how? #mglitchat -9:19 PM
May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @rachelgrinti I'm imagining a happy home
where Mom and Dad are loving parents, no conflict from parents or siblings.
#mglitchat -9:19 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @kurtisscaletta @susan_marie In the middle of
the sentence? Would make it a VERY long sentence, mind you #mglitchat -9:19 PM
May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @mikegrinti #mglitchat Many teens no longer
have living grandparents or are to busy to be so involved w/ them. Not all
teens of course. -9:19 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @RosanneParry @kurtisscaletta's MUDVILLE is a
great examination of brotherhood and father/son relationships. #mglitchat -9:19
PM May 3rd, 2012
smozer Just joining in. What's tonight's topic? #mglitchat
-9:20 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @smozer Family structure #mglitchat -9:20 PM May
3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @RosanneParry For myself, I like the setting
you've described a lot. #mglitchat -9:20 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @Mike_Jung Adding that one to my tbr list
#mglitchat -9:21 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin So much of the adventure in MG comes from
parents not around to hover. Or solve problems. Boring book if 'rents are
always there. #mglitchat -9:21 PM May 3rd, 2012
smozer @AnshaKotyk Thanks. #mglitchat -9:21 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @kingdomofpatria Any examples? I don't think it's
impossible, but it seems harder to make the kid MC the focus in that scenario.
#mglitchat -9:21 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @KristineAsselin Yes, whatever the health of
the family is in MG plot, the problem HAS to be solved by the child pro tag(s).
#mglitchat -9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin Need to be creative to have positive family
structure AND interesting book conflict. #mglitchat -9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @kingdomofpatria I think there are a lot of
problems kids face that parents can't solve, no matter how present. #mglitchat
-9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
Trirae Even in tact, functional families get distracted.
Plus, some of the fun can be how MG protag works around family life.#mglitchat
-9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Even moreso when you bring fantastic elements
into the picture. #mglitchat -9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @KristineAsselin In some secondary world
fantasies the kids often remove themselves from the site of the parents, not
other way #mglitchat -9:22 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @SympleSymon Loved the Willie Wonka example.
My daughter was just an Oompa-Loompa in the school musical! #mglitchat -9:22 PM
May 3rd, 2012
raeannparker @rachelgrinti @kingdomofpatria I agree. I think
this is especially true in MG school stories. #mglitchat -9:23 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @Mike_Jung Someone earlier noted Charlie in
the Chocolate Factory. #mglitchat -9:23 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk Sorry, tweetdeck is loading super slow for me
tonight. #mglitchat -9:23 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta Funny to have books so closely based on my
own family of origin called unrealistic because the parents are so absent.
#mglitchat -9:23 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung @kellandrewsPA @KristineAsselin Yes! Absent family
doesn't always mean death/divorced/delinquency. It might be circumstance.
#mglitchat -9:24 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @rachelgrinti @kingdomofpatria Agreed! Most
friendship problems can't be solved by a parent, for example. #mglitchat -9:24
PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta FTR, I have never heard a KID complain that
the parents in books are too absent in a book. Only parents. #mglitchat -9:24
PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @KristineAsselin Would Coraline be the exception
to your wall? #mglitchat -9:24 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti Has anyone written/read MG with gay parents? Is
there pushback on that from editors? What if it's not the focus of the story?
#mglitchat -9:24 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @RosanneParry Yes! And parental involvement in
that sort of problem can make things worse. #mglitchat -9:24 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @kingdomofpatria The Penderwicks (imo)'s a good
example of a fairly happy family. Only, the mom has died. The dad is v loving.
#mglitchat -9:25 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @RosanneParry True! And in realistic
contemporary, friendship problems are often the center of the story; parents
can't fix #mglitchat -9:25 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters RT @kurtisscaletta: FTR, I have never heard a
KID complain that the parents in books are too absent in a book. Only parents.
#mglitchat -9:25 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry Wrinkle in Time is a good example of a
functional family not getting in the way of the action/adventure. Any others
come to mind? #mglitchat -9:25 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @KristineAsselin Would Coraline be the exception
to your rule? #mglitchat -9:25 PM May 3rd, 2012
susan_marie @kurtisscaletta Henkes's young characters are
deeply embedded in their family life, problem-solve issues w/ family life.
#mglitchat -9:26 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @kurtisscaletta I don't think absent parents =
problem. But homogenized family structure is boring. Lots of stories to tell.
#mglitchat -9:26 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @SympleSymon I loved coraline for it's take on
family #mglitchat -9:26 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung .@jrocklin writes about loving, functional
families, but they're also flawed, sometimes broken, & entirely human.
#mglitchat -9:27 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin I've got a list of ya/mg/pb with gay parents
on my blog, if anyone's interested. #mglitchat -9:27 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @mikegrinti I've seen more gay parents/couples
in picture books than in MG I think. #mglitchat -9:27 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin Haven't read Coraline. :( Sorry. RT
@SympleSymon: @KristineAsselin Would Coraline be the exception to your rule?
#mglitchat -9:27 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @KristineAsselin Yes indeed! #mglitchat -9:28 PM
May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Yes! Link? RT @KristineAsselin: I've got a list
of ya/mg/pb with gay parents on my blog, if anyone's interested. #mglitchat
-9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
Mike_Jung Gotta run, thanks everybody. Outstanding topic!
#mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon @Mike_Jung @jrocklin Unlike the Spy Kids family
#mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @Mike_Jung Glad to have you! #mglitchat -9:28 PM
May 3rd, 2012
smozer In Where the Mountain Meets the Moon the MC is on her
own adventure, but you keep seeing how the parents are feeling about it.
#mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @RosanneParry @annenesbet's CABINET OF EARTHS
has a functional family that moves to Paris. #mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @KristineAsselin Can you send us a link?
#mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Thanks, will pass along. RT @KristineAsselin:
Ive got a list of ya/mg/pb with gay parents on my blog, if anyones interested.
#mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
AlohaKarina @kingdomofpatria agree on getting rid of
parents. Reading Rick Riordan, new Kane Chronicles book Serpent's Shadow.
Parents: dead. #mglitchat -9:28 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working #mglitchat Ended up w/ a story where MC's
extended 'family' (scattered thru apt bldg) is warm, funny, impt. --but can't
solve her problems. -9:29 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti MG parents seem to get kidnapped/captured a lot
as a way to get caring parents out of the way. Underland books, Larklight, etc.
#mglitchat -9:30 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @word_working I love extended families, friends
that act as families, etc. Always a big fan of "you make your own
family" #mglitchat -9:30 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry My current WIP is about relationships among
cousins. It's been a fun twist to the usual family relationships. #mglitchat
-9:30 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk older story but The Outliers, (do i have that
right?) where the brother is the mc's gurdian. #mglitchat -9:31 PM May 3rd,
2012
SympleSymon Also, Artemis Fowl thrives off the absence of
parents (both mentally & physically) in the 1st book then focuses on fixing
it in 2 #mglitchat -9:31 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin My Link to Gay Parents in YA/MG/PB
http://t.co/Ce2Dsqkl Also, cohosting a blog series at end of May profiling YA
w/ gay parents. #mglitchat -9:31 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @rachelgrinti Interesting - still, in many
ways adventure is about the parent because of whatever awesome danger they were
in #mglitchat -9:31 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working #mglitchat HP's Weasley parents were among my
favorite char's. Childhood favorite w/ good/interesting parents was 'Look
Through My Window' -9:32 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta I think the book CRASH by Spinelli shows a
great family & extended family. One of my favorites. #mglitchat -9:32 PM
May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @Mike_Jung Flawed is good. When I was young, books
where the parents were always right drove me nuts. It wasn't realistic.
#mglitchat -9:32 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @RosanneParry Oh, cousins are interesting!
Lots of potential there #mglitchat -9:32 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @word_working I love the Weasley family
structure! And the clock! #mglitchat -9:32 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @word_working The Weasleys are a good example
of a happy family where the parents can't solve problems whether present or
not. #mglitchat -9:33 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @word_working Yes, I was thinking of the
Weasley's as a great example of an intact, healthy, happy family. #mglitchat
-9:33 PM May 3rd, 2012
KarenninaPosa Jumping in to the chat (late! ... sorry, guys)
#mglitchat -9:33 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @kingdomofpatria yes on the Weasley's but the
mc's parents are dead. ;) #mglitchat -9:34 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @rachelgrinti @word_working Good point!
#mglitchat -9:34 PM May 3rd, 2012
RosanneParry @AnshaKotyk @word_working Seriously want the
Weasley family clock! #mglitchat -9:34 PM May 3rd, 2012
AlohaKarina I think one of my favorite series about a family
is still Wrinkle in Time books, Madeline L'Engle. Yet parents aren't main
focus. #mglitchat -9:34 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Great link for books with gay parents. RT
@KristineAsselin: My Link to Gay Parents in YA/MG/PB http://t.co/K4FzlpiI
#mglitchat -9:34 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @AnshaKotyk The Weasleys are my favorite fictional
family :) #mglitchat -9:35 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working #mglitchat @mikegrinti-so glad to hear it.
That's exactly the case w/ my story. Two fam's with kids + adopted eccentric
'aunt' figure. -9:35 PM May 3rd, 2012
KarenninaPosa @RosanneParry Is the Weasley clock available
anywhere? #mglitchat -9:35 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @KarenninaPosa *giggle* #mglitchat -9:35 PM May
3rd, 2012
Jess_Keating RT @nardinisisters Great link for books with
gay parents in YA/MG/PB via @KristineAsselin http://t.co/q7JugNXn #mglitchat
-9:36 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @AnshaKotyk I like how sweet and kind Mrs. Weasley is
but at the same time is described somewhat as a saber tooth tiger, lol!
#mglitchat -9:37 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon A dysfunctional family is optional in MG. But
pretty much a necessity for comic book heroes #mglitchat -9:37 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @word_working family born of connection over
bloodline.. yes. #mglitchat :) -9:38 PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS RT @SympleSymon: A dysfunctional family is optional
in MG. But pretty much a necessity for comic book heroes #mglitchat -9:38 PM
May 3rd, 2012
word_working @rachelgrinti In my case, the MC ends up saving
her parents/sovling their problems, though they don't realize it. #mglitchat
-9:38 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters RT @SympleSymon: A dysfunctional family is
optional in MG. But pretty much a necessity for comic book heroes #mglitchat
-9:38 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo Flipped is a good example of two families, one very
dysfunctional and one just minorly dysfunctional. #mglitchat -9:39 PM May 3rd,
2012
kingdomofpatria @AnshaKotyk @word_working True, but out of
the Weasley connection HP reforges his own intact "bloodline" family.
#mglitchat -9:39 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working @AnshaKotyk @kingdomofpatria True. But the
Weasley's bec his family. Best families are often born of connection, not
bloodline? #mglitchat -9:39 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @word_working I'm thinking we need a HP topic one
of these weeks. :) #mglitchat -9:40 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf Sorry I'm late. #MGLitChat -9:41 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti Both OUT OF MY MIND and WONDER had really
supportive parents. Would be interesting to read less-awesome prnts. #mglitchat
-9:41 PM May 3rd, 2012
KristineAsselin @AnshaKotyk HP topic would be AWESOME.
#mglitchat -9:41 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @AnshaKotyk @word_working Yeah! Who's been
to Pottermore? #mglitchat -9:41 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf Glad you made it for the second half
though! #mglitchat -9:41 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf Oh please, not HP. #MGLitChat -9:42 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti Each book featured a disabled/physically
different protag. Wonder if bad parents would be too tough... Already emotional
#mglitchat -9:42 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @AniProf no no tonights topic is family
structure. :) #MGLitChat -9:42 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @word_working @AnshaKotyk @kingdomofpatria Agreed.
Blood is not thicker in that instance. #mglitchat -9:42 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf @AnshaKotyk Whew! #MGLitChat -9:42 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti Though both did interesting things with family.
MIND with imperfect mom. WONDER with other POVs. #mglitchat -9:43 PM May 3rd,
2012
word_working (1/2) I think you can have functional,
interesting family characters without making them boring ... #mglitchat -9:44
PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf Define "family". #MGLitChat -9:44 PM May
3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Anyone have recs for books about relationships
between step-siblings? Like NERD CAMP, where brothers' relationship is
important. #mglitchat -9:44 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf See, I questin whether or not family needs to be
blood relations. #MGLitChat -9:45 PM May 3rd, 2012
SympleSymon Darn... I'm going to bed before this headache
kills me. Night all! #mglitchat -9:45 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf We've touched a bit on making your own
family. :) #mglitchat -9:46 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @AniProf Pretty much whatever you want where the
MC thinks of people as a family, I think. #mglitchat -9:46 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working 2/2 1 set of parents in my story are divorced
but still live next door in same apt building; that family is also
'multi-color' #mglitchat -9:46 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @SympleSymon Feel better! :( #mglitchat -9:46 PM
May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @AniProf We're kind of discovering that. talking
about different structures of family. #MGLitChat -9:46 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters @rachelgrinti Don't mean to self-promote but
our book The Underwear Dare is about step-brothers. 5th graders, nerd and a
bully. #mglitchat -9:46 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @nardinisisters Thanks! #mglitchat -9:47 PM May
3rd, 2012
Bethyo @AniProf I don't think they needs be. (My mom's
adopted. Her family chose her.) Also I think of some friends as extended
family. #mglitchat -9:48 PM May 3rd, 2012
kurtisscaletta I leave #mglitchat with Tolstoy: Happy
families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. -9:48
PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk RT @kurtisscaletta: I leave #mglitchat with
Tolstoy: Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its
own way. -9:49 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf So, if I may, what makes someone "family"?
It seems there must be a defintion. #MGLitChat -9:49 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @kurtisscaletta Thanks for coming. And great
quote (says former Russian major) ;) #mglitchat -9:49 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf I don't think so at all. I think every
individual knows who they consider to be their family. #mglitchat -9:50 PM May
3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @AniProf More than definition I think we're
trying to come up with the various ways family can be conveyed in story form.
#MGLitChat -9:50 PM May 3rd, 2012
word_working RT @kurtisscaletta: I leave #mglitchat with
Tolstoy: Happy families are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its
own way. -9:51 PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo RT @rachelgrinti: @AniProf I don't think so at all. I
think every individual knows who they consider to be their family. #mglitchat
-9:51 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf What differentiates family from friends? #MGLitChat
-9:51 PM May 3rd, 2012
billallenbooks RT @nardinisisters: RT @SympleSymon: A
dysfunctional family is optional in MG. But pretty much a necessity for comic
book heroes #mglitchat -9:51 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk I think it's too subjective. What if you had a
crappy family life? RT @AniProf: What differentiates family from friends?
#MGLitChat -9:51 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf @AnshaKotyk But to do that, don't we need to see
some commonality amongst the examples? #MGLitChat -9:52 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @kurtisscaletta Well, that's the thing. Even
happy families have myriad forms. See: extended families, gay parents, etc.
#mglitchat -9:52 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf Curious why? To some, it's all about
blood. To others, it's the people closest to them they can count on. No one
thing. #mglitchat -9:52 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf @AnshaKotyk of course it's subjective, but that does
not eliminate a possible definition. #MGLitChat -9:53 PM May 3rd, 2012
KarenninaPosa RT @kurtisscaletta: Tolstoy: Happy families
are all alike; every unhappy family is unhappy in its own way. #mglitchat -9:53
PM May 3rd, 2012
Bethyo @AniProf AniProf Family's who you share yourself/your
life with. Family you can be yourself w/ 24/7 #mglitchat -9:54 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf @rachelgrinti Ah, but then why would someone call a
friend, family? #MGLitChat -9:54 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @AniProf True, it's always possible to define but
with so many variables I think "family" is a toughie #MGLitChat -9:54
PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS What would be yours? RT @AniProf course it's
subjective, but that does not eliminate a possible definition. #MGLitChat -9:54
PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf @AnshaKotyk I respectively disagree. #MGLitChat
-9:54 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Although we want a happy, loving family, in
mglit it's more desirable for a little discord or uncomfortable family
situations. #mglitchat -9:54 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf That's a little more than I think we
can manage in 140 characters what w/ all the social aspects that go into it ;)
#mglitchat -9:55 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @kurtisscaletta I would contend that the
very opposite is true. Happiness is much more variegated than unhappiness.
#mglitchat -9:55 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @nardinisisters Well, really, no family is
without discord. Unless they're in stasis or something. #mglitchat #carbonite
-9:55 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf Do you have a definition to put
forward then? That might be helpful. :) #mglitchat -9:55 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @mikegrinti mwhahaha sounds like a great
sci-fi... or a really boring one. ;) #mglitchat #carbonite -9:56 PM May 3rd,
2012
Bethyo RT @nardinisisters ...in mglit it's more desirable
for a little discord or uncomfortable family situations. #mglitchat <agreed
-9:56 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf OK, try this. What would do for family you'd never
do for a friend? #MGLitChat -9:56 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria @AniProf If family did not mean first and
foremost, though not necessarily, genetic connection, fiction could not get
going. #mglitchat -9:57 PM May 3rd, 2012
mikegrinti @AniProf Lots of people might do a lot more for a
friend than for a blood relative. #mglitchat -9:57 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @AniProf Again I think that depends on culture,
family growing up... etc. #MGLitChat -9:57 PM May 3rd, 2012
AniProf Ques: If your sister, who you can't stand, was in
trouble, would you help her? #MGLitChat -9:58 PM May 3rd, 2012
Becky_AS Agreed! RT @AnshaKotyk: @AniProf Again I think that
depends on culture, family growing up... etc. #MGLitChat -9:59 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk We seem to be slowing down tonight, and the hour
is upon us. We'll work on the transcript and get that up soon! #mglitchat -9:59
PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf Now see, that would depend why I can't
stand her, what kind of trouble she's in, and many other factors. #mglitchat
-10:00 PM May 3rd, 2012
kingdomofpatria Good night, all! Enjoyed the confab!
#mglitchat -10:00 PM May 3rd, 2012
AnshaKotyk @kingdomofpatria Thanks for coming! #mglitchat
-10:00 PM May 3rd, 2012
kellandrewsPA @AnshaKotyk Thanks, Ansha! #mglitchat -10:00
PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Oh yeah! I just want to mention if anyone has
suggestions for future topics, you can post here: http://t.co/fX6BR1I5
#mglitchat -10:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
nardinisisters Great chat tonight! Very interesting and
enlightening! Goodnite, All. Happy Writing! #mglitchat -10:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
rachelgrinti Thank you all for chatting tonight! #mglitchat
-10:01 PM May 3rd, 2012
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