Thursday, April 26, 2012

April 26, 2012 Transcript: Reaching Without Preaching (Messages in MG)

rachelnseigel Hello everybody! Welcome to Tonight's #MGlitchat with my co-hostess @KDuBayGillis . We are talking about "Reaching Without Preaching" -7:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #MGlitchat There is a fine line between getting the message across and preaching at kids. How do you, as writers handle this? -7:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #MGlitchat or as readers, we'd love examples of books that effectively do this. -7:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz I think the most important thing to remember is that the message isn't as important as the story. Story first, then message. #MGlitchat -7:03 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @elissacruz Do you think the message naturally comes out if you focus on story? #MGlitchat -7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Please define "reaching w/o preaching". That is, what are you trying to convey and to whom? #MGLitChat -7:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis Yikes! Sorry I'm late! The moral of the story is...oh never mind. #mglitchat -7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress RT @rachelnseigel: Hello everybody! Welcome to Tonight's #MGlitchat with my co-hostess @KDuBayGillis . We are talking about "Reaching Without Preaching" -7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @AniProf You summed it up nicely- most MG fic. has some central theme or message. But sometimes, it's so obvious, it's preachy! #MGLitChat -7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz Or, in other words, the story should take precedence over the message. #MGlitchat -7:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis LOL! #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @rachelnseigel @elissacruz Right. I feel like the moment we say "message" the game is lost. Stories wrestle, think, transcend. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
    
AniProf Agreed! RT @elissacruz: Or, in other words, the story should take precedence over the message. #MGLitChat -7:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @kellybarnhill @elissacruz Yes! Parents/educators love to find teachable moments, but kids know if u try 2 hard to impart it. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass Complex characterization is key. Not one "preachy" message. #mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Kids can smell a message miles and mikes away. #MGLitChat -7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis When I set out to write a story, I have a theme in mind, but that's different than message, no? #mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #MGlitchat examples? I'm halfway through "Wonder" right now, and I think it's a perfect example of subtle themes but still entertaining. -7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress Love this from @kellybarnhill: "Stories wrestle, think, transcend." #mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Do writers of adult fiction try to preach? #MGLitChat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @rachelnseigel I fell in love with WONDER! #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
booksandwine RT @WaldenPondPress: Love this from @kellybarnhill: "Stories wrestle, think, transcend." #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Let the story do the talking, subtly, of course. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write Mockingbird by kathryn erskine is an excellant example of dealing with a violent death and living with autism #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @@coachhays64 The medium is the message, so-to-speak. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon #mglitchat If your message isn't clear from reading the story, and you had to point it out, then methinks you've failed.. ? -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @SympleSymon I agree- I've read some books where I've wondered at the end, what was the point of the story? #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass THE HEALING SPELL...another book that imparts life's truths through the actions of the characters. #mglitchat -7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill #mglitchat "Messages" are for politicians, marketers and substitute teachers - not stories. Stories are primal, irreducible, utterly alive. -7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KimBriggs_Write I love that book! #mglitchat -7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf If you write to preach, then how can you call it fiction? #MGLitChat -7:09 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @AniProf If they do, they're shelved under "self-help" or "inspirational literature" not FICTION. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @stefwass so growth of character is a means of getting the message across? #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @kellybarnhill I love the way you phrase that! #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Koppelmom RT @WaldenPondPress: Love this from @kellybarnhill: "Stories wrestle, think, transcend." #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
knowledgeshores RT @kellybarnhill: #mglitchat "Messages" are for politicians, marketers and substitute teachers - not stories. Stories are primal, irreducible, utterly alive. -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore I think, to successfully get away w/ a message in a story, a secondary character must point something out to the main character. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @KDuBayGillis Absolutely. "Message" is static; it's a slogan. Theme, conversely, is intellectually vigorous. Very different. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write Action and dialogue instead of preaching a message #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @kellybarnhill Definitely...especially politicians! #mglitchat -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 RT @kellybarnhill: #mglitchat "Messages" are for politicians, marketers and substitute teachers - not stories. Stories are primal, irreducible, utterly alive. -7:11 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #MGlitchat One of the things I loved about @Ellenpotter 's Humming Room was the gradual transformation of MC - very subtle. -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @rachelnseigel Character growth is key. SHOW the change...there is an inherent but subtle message in their actions. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore the foil?? (love that word.) #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore Not the message, verbatim, but something that guides the main character to realization. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AnshaKotyk RT @kellybarnhill: Absolutely. "Message" is static; it's a slogan. Theme, conversely, is intellectually vigorous. Very different. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 RT @KimBriggs_Write: Action and dialogue instead of preaching a message #MGlitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KKittscher @stefwass Reading WONDER now and really enjoying it #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 26th, 2012
    
KimBriggs_Write @JoWhittemore that's a great way to get the point of across..subtl #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Yeah....but.... kids will spot it. And they'll be annoyed. Too much of the old "As you know, Bob..." construction. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @KKittscher Cried during the final scene!!! #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KKittscher RT @JoWhittemore: I think, to get away w/ a message in a story, a secondary character must point something out to the MC. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @stefwass I've teared up a few times so far! It's heartbreaking! #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Paraphrasing Franny Billingsly: Plot is the track, problem/tension is the engine, theme is the fuel- you don't see, but necessary #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KKittscher @stefwass Not there yet...but I have no doubt. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Yes, HOWEVER "books with a message" tend to be very black and white. Great stories, though, are nuanced; subtle. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill Not if you do it right. It can be as simple as "Geez, Taylor, don't you ever think of anyone but yourself?!" #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen I love asking kids what they think the message of a story is. Answers are surprising. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore I love that word too. My plans are foiled! #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
daisycakes RT @kellybarnhill: #mglitchat "Messages" are for politicians, marketers and substitute teachers - not stories. Stories are primal, irreducible, utterly alive. -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill All books have a message. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis I think the "reaching" idea can go beyond message, but how to make kids think/feel critically about their world through MG. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress MG authors reach kids with truth, whatever the genre. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @KDuBayGillis Hehe! Yes, if you will. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
literacydocent RT @WaldenPondPress: MG authors reach kids with truth, whatever the genre. #mglitchat -7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @story_queen too true! They often find more messages than the author intended #mglitchat -7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @KKittscher You mean like "Wow, Jim-Bob, even though you came from a poor family, you're the greatest friend I ever had!"? #mglitchat -7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress I loved "Fourth Stall" for that- discussable themes, but funny and entertaining too! #mglitchat -7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write Kids are smarter than most kids give them credit for #mglitchat -7:16 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress We are always looking for characters whose growth and actions feel organic - no strong overbearing message - just connection. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @PBWorkshop Franny is genius. Reading FolkKeeper right now #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @SympleSymon UGH! We call that kind of book "ernest". #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured So True!!! RT @WaldenPondPress MG authors reach kids with truth, whatever the genre. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop What she said :) > RT @KimBriggs_Write: @story_queen too true! They often find more messages than the author intended #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write RT @WaldenPondPress: MG authors reach kids with truth, whatever the genre. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel I've actually heard that from several booksellers and teachers too! #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook Kids also appreciate genuine emotion in the story - if it's a situation where they would feel mad or p'd off, then write that. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass MG authors reach kids with truth. And truth isn't always pretty. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore No. All books have many messages -some supplied by the reader. And they contradict and vibrate and stew. #beautiful #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 @AniProf I always say a well-honed BS meter is a kid superpower. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KKittscher @SympleSymon Ha! No, more like @JoWhittemore's ex of ""Geez, Taylor, don't you ever think of anyone but yourself?!" #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write "@WaldenPondPress: MG authors reach kids with truth, whatever the genre. #mglitchat" #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
_TimothyPower Does anyone have an example of a "message" book? #MGlitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @KimBriggs_Write So smart, they hate being referred to as kids by adults. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis But isn't fair to say that gatekeepers might id books by general message/theme to help place them w/kids? #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz Question: Do you see a difference in subtlety with message depending upon target age? More concrete with younger MG, for ex.? #MGlitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @PBWorkshop @KimBriggs_Write And the reader is always right....right? #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel But it is funny how adults can try to ascribe messages to books for kids :) #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @WaldenPondPress Yes - kids want characters that they can connect with, and who they can see as being like the kids around them. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @stefwass True that :) #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook That was a bi g part of the success of HP- kids behaved like kids. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz @_TimothyPower I do, but I won't share. Mostly because I read it years ago and I can't remember the title, just that I hated it. #MGlitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop If they can defend based on text and life.>RT @story_queen: @PBWorkshop @KimBriggs_Write And the reader is always right....right? #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill My point is that messages aren't always black and white. Because, as you say, books have many messages. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @stefwass The truth can be downright ugly and kids appreciate when you are honest #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress look 4 messages not there. #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
sylvie_shaffer YES. What @stefwass just said: RT"MG authors reach kids with truth. And truth isn't always pretty. #mglitchat" -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @KimBriggs_Write They certainly are! I continue to be amazed by what kids take away from the books they read. #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured I think there is always a message in a well written story. I ask my kids what it is and they often find a different one than I do #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore But it can work- HP is an example - as long as it's one of several truths in the story, not The Message, right? #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cindypon @_TimothyPower The Golden Compass? and the series? #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen I never write a story with a message(or theme) in mind...but I always find one in the revision. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @rachelnseigel Yes - absolutely. The kids weren't perfect, nor did they want to be. Boarding school echoed real life w/cliques, #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA Hello #mglitchat. Late again but I missed you! #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
_TimothyPower I recently came across a '70s timber industry picture book designed as a rebuttal to The Lorax. It def had a message! #MGlitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @kellandrewsPA glad u made it! #mglitchat #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook. And I wonder way kids behaving like kids is so rare in many stories #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass The Lorax is a great example...message, but done w/humor...not preachy #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @AniProf EXACTLY (I'm giving you a A+ IN MY SOUL right now!) #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @_TimothyPower Charlie and the Chocolate Factory: it doesn't matter what bg you come from, everyone can attain greatness. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @lostingreatbook Yes! & who they see as experiencing the same things they are, but the experiences have to feel real to work #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KimBriggs_Write Somehow flawed kids don't seem to appeal 2 adults. ie- Junie B. Jones. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @_TimothyPower The kid version of the Left Behind series? #barf #mglitchat -7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lalibrarylady86 RT @sylvie_shaffer: YES. What @stefwass just said: RT"MG authors reach kids with truth. And truth isn't always pretty. #mglitchat" -7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KKittscher Yes, this ==>RT @story_queen: I never write a story with a message(or theme) in mind...but I always find one in the revision. #mglitchat -7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill Right! I'd never say "This is the only message you should get from this!!" :) #mglitchat -7:23 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @_TimothyPower At the risk of alienating folks with this... most curricular-intended texts, social conservative titles are heavy. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @rachelnseigel Interesting. I admit to not being a fan of that series even though my son liked it. #mglitchat @KimBriggs_Write -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel Yes. And I've witnessed how when they actually talk to the author - their whole perspective changes. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
    
story_queen @_TimothyPower Was the rebuttal to The LORAX called The MORE-Axe? :) Sorry. Couldn't resist. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Ooooh, I kinda liked those. But not in my books. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Totally. I get my hackles up with the concept of "messaging" because it feels intellectually vacant, right? #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @BooksDevoured My daughter doesn't like it -- doesn't like Junie's personality #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass Message is personal...based on the reader's life experiences and situation. Text-to-life is different for each kid #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress #mglitchat that's interesting! I wonder what she says to them. -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
RosanneParry @stefwass But I think Lorax doesn't seem preachy because most people agree w/ the message. If you didn't it would seem preachy. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @kellybarnhill What do you mean? Could you clarify? #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel I love reading reviews to see what readers hit on. Something different resonates w/each reader. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @kellandrewsPA For me it was the bad grammar! Drove me CRAZY!!! #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Doesn't mean they aren't there (in abundance) but the point of reading is the process of discovery. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @RosanneParry Good point! #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop RT @JoWhittemore: @kellybarnhill .. messages arent always black and white. < and the best characters are flawed/dimensional. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @WaldenPondPress Me too- we all get different things out of a reading based on our experiences. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @story_queen @_TimothyPower Last time I found the Lorax, I caught it with a Pokeball! #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
_TimothyPower @story_queen Hahaha! #MGlitchat -7:26 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel We had this experience around Fourth Stall, spoke with a group of teachers who ascribed certain messages 2 the bk #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @kellandrewsPA What I mean is that the moment we talk about messages, we're reducing fiction into slogans. And that bugs me. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel As a teacher, I wonder how an author would feel about an educational curriculum standard message #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel - Then then Skyped with the author and realized his motivations and thinking process was much diff. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill Yes! Flawed, multidimensional characters kids can relate to #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
_TimothyPower I guess most books are "message"...depends on how much sugar is being used to help the message go down. :-) #MGlitchat -7:27 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @kellandrewsPA Fiction is nuanced, complicated and messy. There are no easy answers. Just like the world, right? #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin Hi all...lurking in #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel I find it fascinating to hear what kids latch on to - it's never what I think. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KristineAsselin Welcome! :-) #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
RosanneParry I think of the message as something readers bring to the book based on their life experience interacting w/ my characters. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Seuss had many interviews saying his latter books were intentionally "messages"- Butter battle Book, Lorax, etc. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
snarkychicklet @kellybarnhill Well said. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel W/a class that just read Walk Two Moons - out of all themes, kids most connected w/grandmother dying #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop 2 Mo Willems reviews of Pigeon: Kids need to learn no means no- and Kids need to learn not to take no for an answer... #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write Maybe not all writers are educators, but messages still surface whether they meant it or not #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel That's why my 1st assgmnts for reluctant readers includes "dear author' letter - honest responses #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis 2nd graders thought moral of "Sylvester & Magic Pebble" is don't pick up things off floor. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write RT @PBWorkshop: Seuss had many interviews saying his latter books were intentionally "messages"- Butter battle Book, Lorax, etc. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @RosanneParry Love that #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @WaldenPondPress Is that a message or plot thread? It's a universal experience but not nec a message... #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook @WaldenPondPress Did you ever read that collection "Dear Author?" #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @PBWorkshop even his early books often had messages...sneetches #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis That's hysterical!! Still a msg though… #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz @rachelnseigel LOL. I could see that, though, because they are still very concrete learners at that stage. #MGlitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon 1st Rule of Message Club: Have enough faith in your readers to be able to find it themselves. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis My twitter is broken. Can't respond to some of these great comments. Argh! #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @kellybarnhill Agree! Too bad some believe a book without a clear "message" is the intellectually or morally vacant one #mglitchat -7:32 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf RT @SympleSymon: 1st Rule of Message Club: Have enough faith in your readers to be able to find it themselves. #MGLitChat -7:32 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @SympleSymon Love that! Have faith that your readers are smart enough to find the theme themselves. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress Yep - kids love freedom of not writing 2 teacher… Responses are honest & relate to overall book. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis Loving the tweets about letting the reader find their own message in MG. Not our job, the reader's job/right. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela RT @AniProf: RT @SympleSymon: 1st Rule of Message Club: Have enough faith in your readers to be able to find it themselves. #MGLitChat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @kellandrewsPA Yes, true, but I think it connects back to the fact that kids will pull out the pieces to which they most relate #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel About Sylverster... perfect example of why PBs are such great discussion-starters for older readers! #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon 2nd Rule of Message Club: The mute important the message, the more subtly it should be planted. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey following on the fringe.Interesting here! As a teacher my fav discussion quest about message is what did you notice? now what? #mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook @WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis That was their own unique message! Not what I was expecting them 2 say. #mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @_TimothyPower sugar= excitement cars blowing up buildings crumbling bad guy breaks out ...#mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Let's face it, we cannot write a really good story that has some kind of message in it. Trick is to not make it take over. #MGLitChat -7:34 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin A book has to have a theme...reader must find message him or herself. First rule in fiction writing...show, don't tell, right? #mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz @cstakey (Welcome! Jump right in!) I think those are great questions to start with. #MGlitchat -7:35 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass Our school system is big on text-to-self connections. What did YOU get out of the scene? How does it connect to your life? #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @PBWorkshop Exactly! And I love that it allows 4 kids 2 derive their own message from it. It's subtle. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon 2nd Rule of Message Club: The more important the message, the more subtly it should be implanted. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write "@SympleSymon: 1st Rule of Message Club: Have enough faith in your readers to be able to find it themselves. " #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured I also see that my children can read the same book multiple times and have different messages to talk about every time. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass Any great "show, not tell" titles? Like WONDER? #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf I meant "does not have some kind of message in it" ... Lousy typist! #MGLitChat -7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook @KDuBayGillis - Have to read that - thanks for the suggestion! #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @BooksDevoured I re-read Phantom Tollbooth every so often, and Little Princess, and always see something new. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel We try, even with littlest readers, to help them learn HOW to think, not WHAT to think.-book talks/noticing/why? #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @BooksDevoured Definitely - every reading of a book changes what one takes away from it #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
smozer Do authors intend to place messages in their books, or is it just their belief system coming out in their writing? #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 Exactly! RT @KimBriggs_Write 1st Rule of Message Club: Have enough faith in your readers to be able to find it themselves. " #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela Much or the research I've done on Tweens points to an innate desire to be part of a cause. They're looking for messages. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf IF half if what a reader takes away is what they bring to the reading, THEN half the message should come from them. #MGLitChat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @PBWorkshop I agree! Debbie Miller calls it "Synthesis" #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel @BooksDevoured - Fantastic books to re-read - I need to crack open my copy of Phantom Tollbooth again. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin I don't want a book that pounds me over the head with a message. Subtlety is important, IMO, if you want the reader's trust. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress @BooksDevoured I loved it at age 9, but get more of the nuances now. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf @PBWorkshop More like ENCOURAGING thinking, yes? #MGLitChat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz @TORRESpamela Yes, but they want to find those messages themselves. Not be hit over the head with them. #MGlitchat -7:38 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel I need to check that one out, I have never read it! #mglitchat -7:39 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel I think we should all tattoo that tweet on the backs of our hands. Right now. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KristineAsselin I agree completely! I think sometimes authors try too hard and don't trust the work 2 speak 4 itself. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass Bigger Than A Breadbox...Makes the reader think #mglitchat -7:39 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey Reading my std reviews of MG bks always surprises me what they notice. SO personal to their experiences #mglitchat -7:39 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA Basic question: What is a message, as we're using it in this conversation? A theme? Moral lesson? Call to action? Ideology? #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SarvenazTash As a writer,I find I need to have the message come organically.If I start out with a message instead of plot, it feels too forced #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela @AniProf I agree. You can't expect a reader to see something that doesn't resonate with them.It's already there. #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 @TORRESpamela Being a part of a cause and message, not hit over the head with them, right? #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @RosanneParry For real. I've taught "All Summer In A Day" for years. Every kid feels a kinship with Margot -for different reasons #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cindypon @smozer for me, it is the latter when any themes do arise? #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @BooksDevoured Now is the perfect time to pick it up! #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon 3rd Rule of Message Club: If you really, really, REALLY have to state your message, consider becoming a motivational speaker. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @stefwass read my mind. @LaurelSnyder does a great job of making reader think w/o telling reader what to think. Love BREADBOX. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @AniProf Also modeling, stretching, exploring- lots of scaffolding with examples of how, encourage interchange. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Yes! RT @TORRESpamela: You cant expect a reader to see something that doesnt resonate with them.Its already there. #MGLitChat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @SarvenazTash I agree - it's good you point this out. It is very obvious when an author has tried to force a msg. into a story. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin @kellandrewsPA I'd say "message" = moral lesson. To me, theme is an underlying part of plot/ARC. And different from "message." #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore The plain, hard fact is that you write a book with a certain message that YOU see in it. What the reader takes away may differ. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @kellybarnhill Oh, that story is so depressing. I remember reading it as a kid and think of it often. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SarvenazTash @JoWhittemore Yes. Completely. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey @PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel Best discussions we had all year were during reading PB with young adult themes then bloged about them #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @KDuBayGillis Yeah, @LaurelSnyder's writing is to die for! #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @stefwass Also Small as an Elephant, Turtle in Paradise, Kindred Souls, Hidden, Okay for Now, Bluefish- #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
lostingreatbook @JoWhittemore Agreed. Everyone brings their own experiences to what they read, and we will all gain s/t different from the story. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz I agree. RT @KristineAsselin @kellandrewsPA I'd say "message" = moral lesson. To me, theme is an underlying part of plot/ARC. #MGlitchat -7:42 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #MGlitchat look at classics like "Charlotte's Web" or "Bridge to Terabithia". Both have wonderful messages but don't preach. -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @KDuBayGillis @stefwass - GREAT example #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen Are purpose and message the same thing? #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Our beliefs will always be present in our books. This is good, as long as they do not supercede story. #MGLitChat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @kellandrewsPA I think you've hit on the problem here - we're all using a different definition. *shrugs* #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @SympleSymon heheheh *bentoverlaughing* #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @story_queen I don't think so. How do you interpret purpose? What you want your character to learn? #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
stefwass @PBWorkshop Thx for the titles! Have read many of them! #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela All those suggestions are great. I love Small As An Elephant. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf @rachelnseigel Characters will learn what they want/need to leatn. #MGLitChat -7:44 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin I LOVE that short story. Think of it every time it rains really hard. @kellybarnhill @RosanneParry "All Summer In A Day" #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @JoWhittemore I agree with this 100%. I think so much of what we take away is based on our personal frame of reference. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @AniProf Excellent point! Do authors guide them there, or is that a natural evolution? #MGLitChat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @story_queen I don't think so purpose is to entertain through sharing story xyz which may or maynot have abc message #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela My characters usually teach me what they need to learn. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @rachelnseigel I dunno. But being a teacher, lots of multiple choice tests asks kids to determine the author's purpose...#mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop RT @cstakey: @PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel Best discussions .. during reading PB with young adult themes then bloged about them<3! #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon The level of subtly when it comes to message is the difference between great fiction and philosophy dissertations... #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis I think anything you can do "and the moral of the story is..." = preachy message and that's what we're talking about avoiding. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela @PBWorkshop @cstakey @rachelnseigel What blog program do you use for your students. I've had several teachers ask me? #mglitchat -7:46 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SarvenazTash Sometimes, the message surprises me completely. I learn it with my characters. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Author's purpose should be ... to tell a good story ... Period. #MGLitChat -7:46 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @story_queen Don't multiple choice questions still in a way suggest that there is a "right" message to derive? #mglitchat -7:46 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @TORRESpamela Yes, BUT, they want to formulate their conclusions THEMSELVES, not be handed a message from some grownup. ;-) #mglitchat -7:47 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Recently read- Everybody sees the Ants- freshman MC- super powerful story, very real. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @KimBriggs_Write Do I AMUSE you? </pesci> #mglitchat -7:47 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @PBWorkshop LOVED that book! A.S. King is genius! #mglitchat -7:47 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellybarnhill @KDuBayGillis My old writing teacher used to call that "an attack of the conclusion gods." She said they were death to stories. #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @rachelnseigel Yeah...one of the many things that bug me about them. #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @BooksDevoured @lostingreatbook @SarvenazTash Exactly! What guides us is OUR experiences. And we offer that perspective to others #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
ckreie @TORRESpamela Kidblog is great and easy to use #MGlitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey @story_queen @rachelnseigel message=moral=theme??? author's purpose = author's intent for writing??? #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf How can a student determine an author's purpose if the author is not aware of it herself? #MGLitChat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @SarvenazTash But is message is more akin to theme for you, right? #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel Multiple choice is brain-killer. Almost as bad as True/false. What would Shakespeare think of HS objective tests? #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin IF there's a message, it should be complicated. Like, what would YOU do given the same circumstances. Kind of like real life. #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @story_queen #mglitchat I think it must be very difficult to test on books in a meaningful way. It's so subjective once you go past the Ws. -7:49 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Brucewriting Late comer. From a teaching perspective, theme which one could argue is a message is a crucial concept in most core curriculum #mglitchat -7:49 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @PBWorkshop Nothing killed Shakespeare for me more than analyzing him to death. #mglitchat -7:49 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
smozer @AniProf We look at multiple books by the same author when available. Themes emerge that point to author's beliefs. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Anyone read There Is No Dog? Ideas about best age for readers? #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SarvenazTash @KDuBayGillis Hm..Not necessarily.But I don't always know the message when I start writing,even if I find there was one all along #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey @TORRESpamela @PBWorkshop @rachelnseigel We use kidblog. Lovin it! Stop in sometime! http://t.co/NISzeNa2 We love visitors! #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela @kellybarnhill Exactly. With my own children there was an art to making it seem like their idea. It's about asking questions. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
    
rachelnseigel @Brucewriting Theme is important- yes, but shouldn't be flashing neon! #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf Beyond the Ws, all you can test for is critical thinking. Everything else is conjecture. #MGLitChat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon The best messages in kids fiction are the ones secretly encoded into the text, first letter of every paragraph...#mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Absolutely- And I wanted to love it! RT @rachelnseigel: @PBWorkshop Nothing killed Shakespeare more than analyzing him 2 death. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Brucewriting I loved using Walk Two Moons among other books to teach theme to 7th graders because there are layers of messages in it #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @rachelnseigel And the best things about books is that our reactions to them ARE so subjective/personal.keeps us reading them #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf @smozer WHICH the author may not have been aware of during the writing process. #MGLitChat -7:51 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @SympleSymon Totally and I needed a laugh tonight #mglitchat -7:52 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin @smozer That's interesting. I like the idea of reading diff books by same author to determine author view point. Cool (and hi!!) #mglitchat -7:52 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @Brucewriting That is one of the reasons I love Homeschooling, I like to let my kids tell me the theme they see. #mglitchat -7:52 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz @SarvenazTash @KDuBayGillis Me, too. Sometimes I write because I need to tell a character's story & find message/theme later. #MGlitchat -7:53 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey @smozer @AniProf I really like that approach! Thanks for the great idea. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel e@Brucewriting I love Sharon Creech. She has a very distinct voice! #mglitchat -7:53 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @SympleSymon Hidden by Helen Frost did that! It used a word at the start of each line to create another poem/insight. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write @story_queen @rachelnseigel MY bff and I love all types of books but sometimes her favs are my least fav and vice versa #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey @KristineAsselin Maniac Magee - message of legacy - asked students what legacy they hope to leave one day #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KimBriggs_Write @story_queen I enjoy lots of things, but not all friends c the same thing in everything I love! #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @SympleSymon I've also seen a few Rickrolling term papers that worked on the same principle. #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @kellandrewsPA All of Helen Frost's have some version of a code- Have you read Diamond Willow? Or Crossing Stones? #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon @rachelnseigel @PBWorkshop That, and the 496 years of actual death. #mglitchat -7:55 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KristineAsselin @cstakey I'll have to check that one out--sounds cool. Thanks! #mglitchat -7:55 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
kellandrewsPA @PBWorkshop No, Hidden was my first! Thanks for the recs. #mglitchat -7:55 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @SympleSymon @PBWorkshop LOL! #mglitchat -7:56 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
smozer @AniProf Exactly! #mglitchat -7:56 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @story_queen @rachelnseigel It's the reason readers side w/one character over another (Peeta vs Gale) They appreciate diff things #mglitchat -7:57 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat We have a couple of minutes left to open it up to any recommendations of books with gr8 messages that you've loved. -7:57 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @story_queen Good point- or all the debates about whether Snape is good or bad in Harry Potter. #mglitchat -7:58 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf The Giver #MGLitChat -7:58 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Er...um...Peeta, just in case you were wondering...unless I get to pick Finnick....#mglitchat -7:58 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @story_queen @JoWhittemore I liked Gale! LOL! #mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @AniProf Love the Giver! She has a new book in the series coming out soon! #MGLitChat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Brucewriting @BooksDevoured Yes, room always for many interpretations, students just just have explain their reasons and evidence. #mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
JoWhittemore @story_queen @rachelnseigel Oh, Peeta all the way! #mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela I love when a story simmers and continues to make connections after it's over. The Mountain Against the Moon did that.#mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel OKAY FOR NOW...so many messages in there. Forgiveness, redemption, becoming whole. #mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Mercy Lily has a really unique issue for MC to deal with. handled very well. #mglitchat -8:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis I enoyed that one too- though a lot of ppl said it was flawed, I didn't see it. #mglitchat -8:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf @rachelnseigel A fourth book? Wow! #MGLitChat -8:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen @rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore I loved those debates..back when we really didn't know for sure...sigh...missing the thrill of HP #mglitchat -8:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf The Red Planet (Heinlein) #MGLitChat -8:00 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop Still no feedback on There Is No Dog? I enjoy sharing this with adults but can't figure an appropriate age for kids? #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @AniProf As a matter of fact, I think I just received a copy! Can't wait to read it! #MGLitChat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KimBriggs_Write Thanks for a great chat and new reading material! #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Brucewriting @rachelnseigel Yes, Huzzah for strategic readers. I have posters for inferences and questioning. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel Isn't every book in some way? But the flaws in beloved books are like flaws in beloved people...easily forgiven. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured I think Hoot by Carl Hiaasen had some great messages. The Book anyway, not so much the movie! #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KimBriggs_Write Thanks for joining! #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Yes! totally true! #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @TORRESpamela Love that :) #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf @rachelnseigel (jealous) #MGLitChat -8:01 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
story_queen One more plug for The One and Only Ivan...#mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey My students really enjoyed verse novel Locomotion by Woodson #mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @story_queen Still have to read that- loved "ida B". #mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
cstakey thanks for the great ideas and making me think tonite! #mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
BooksDevoured @Brucewriting Very true! Hearing their explanations has led to some of the best conversations with my kids. #mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop YES! RT @KDuBayGillis: @rachelnseigel OKAY FOR NOW...so many messages in there. Forgiveness, redemption, becoming whole. #mglitchat -8:02 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop May B. is remarkable, accessible. #mglitchat -8:03 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
SympleSymon Great discussion tonight guys - have a good night! I'll try and have a good morning :p #mglitchat -8:03 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Thanks everybody for a great chat tonight! Lots of great suggestions! -8:03 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
elissacruz You know, son just read Amelia Lost and he found his own messages in that book. We had a great talk because of it, too. #MGlitchat -8:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela Loved it!! RT @KDuBayGillis: @rachelnseigel OKAY FOR NOW...so many messages in there. Forgiveness, redemption, becoming whole. #mglitchat” -8:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
coachhays64 Impossible to over-plug that one. RT @story_queen One more plug for The One and Only Ivan...#mglitchat -8:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @TORRESpamela I love books with magic that isn't really magic- if that makes sense! #mglitchat -8:04 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
WaldenPondPress @rachelnseigel @kdubaygillis - Thank you for another wonderful chat! #mglitchat -8:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress @kdubaygillis Glad you were able to make it tonight! :-) #mglitchat -8:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
PBWorkshop @elissacruz Love Amelia Lost- couldn't believe a non-fiction with known outcome could keep me on the edge of my seat. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis Thanks for co-hosting @rachelnseigel and thanks to everyone for joining us! #mglitchat -8:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
AniProf TTFN! #MGLitChat -8:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
TORRESpamela Totally enjoyed my first #mglitchat. Thanks for all the great reading recommendations! #mglitchat -8:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012
   
Brucewriting @BooksDevoured And such a great way to highlight how different people can see things differently. #mglitchat -8:06 PM Apr 26th, 2012

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