rachelgrinti Okay, it's go time! Hi everyone! Tonight I'm hosting with @anshakotyk Topic: Writing for Boys vs. Writing for Girls #mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik Hello! I'm more a YA writer, but I'll add my 2 cents about writing for boys! #mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @elliefalcone you'reon #MGlitchat -8:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
chasingray RT @smozer: RT @JoWhittemore: Hey, guys & dolls! Tonights #MGlitchat is on writing for boys vs writing for girls. Hope to see you @ 9PM EST! #Mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk Writing for Girls vs Writing for Boys #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards Alright @jimhill, we need you here to represent the dudes :P #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman Writing for boys means adventure & action! :) #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone Boys have cooties. Or is it kooties? #MGlitchat -9:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @elissacruz I hope he takes care of that binder issue! #MGlitchat -9:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti So, just throwing out a question: Do you try to write for boys/girls specifically? If yes, what do you keep in mind? #mglitchat -9:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk Waves *hi* to @rachelgrinti thanks for taking the lead tonight! #mglitchat -9:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter And humor! RT @AngelaAckerman: Writing for boys means adventure & action! :) #MGlitchat -9:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz @librarykelly HA! Not likely. I swear, that school will be swimming in binders if they aren't careful! #MGlitchat -9:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 I know everyone will say there's a big difference between writing for boys and girls, but I don't think it's THAT big. #mglitchat -9:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk I try to keep the action high in my boy books.. but then its the same in my girl books too! RT @AngelaAckerman #mglitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @VonnaCarter Definitely Humor! :) #MGlitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone I have one boy book. For some reason, I'm drawn to writing for girls. Which is funny since I have five brothers and no sisters. #MGlitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @elissacruz :-D #MGlitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes Saying hi to everyone! Getting the kids to bed, then joining in. Boy vs. girl writing. Love this topic. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @timothypower67 This is an interesting topic. My 11 year old girl loves books that are, I think, aimed at boys. #MGlitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards @timothypower67 I agree - it seems like the differences start to dwindle when the writing is done well :) #mglitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman I think mysteries work well with both Boy and girl books. #MGlitchat -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss MG kit lit chat #mglitchat is going on :) -9:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
coachhays64 Speak wisely tonight, people of the #mglitchat. Just finished some painting, now gong to eat. Will have to catch up on the blog site. -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @librarykelly I write solely for girls but would at some point like to step out of my comfort zone. #MGlitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I wonder... if people could address whether they're talking about TRENDS or what they think kids need? #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes Mystery for both? #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Interaction between both sexes is the most fun for me to read. I like a clash of personalities, can be on either side. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk I always enjoyed adventure books as a kid #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @JenniferCEstes I think so, #MGlitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Things that are considered "boy book" elements: humor, action, adventure--also things girls like to read about. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik I read fantasy from about 6th grade on, after Tolkein I read Dragonlance. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone However, my girls aren't particularly girly. Actually, not at all. Hm... #MGlitchat -9:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward My favorite MG aren't "boy books" or "girl books" but those that fall between, I think. #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @coachhays64 Hi there! #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @rachelgrinti BUt I think we sell boys short sometimes. Boys like romance too. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny First time mglitchatter. Lurking but hoping to learn a lot. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter I preferred "boy" books as a kid. Now I like to write both. #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 RT @susanjsteward: My favorite MG arent "boy books" or "girl books" but those that fall between, I think. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti RT @LaurelSnyder: I wonder... if people could address whether theyre talking about TRENDS or what they think kids need? #mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman Girls will read most boy-centric books--action, adventure, humor, mystery intrigue #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk Do you think that reluctant reader books are usually geared toward boy readers? #mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone @john_zeleznik But how do they like their romance? #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz I wonder if girls have a higher tolerance/love for description. My boys skip those parts. #MGlitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis Hi everyone! I started out writing for boys, but was told my voice is girl. Sooo...#mglitchat -9:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @librarykelly I think the Sisters Grimm series by @michaelwbuckley is a great example of a book(s) that appeals to both #MGlitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Ugh to MG romance. That's YA territory to me. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman RT @elissacruz: I wonder if girls have a higher tolerance/love for description. My boys skip those parts. #MGlitchat Good point! -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi #MGlitchat Sorry I'm late! :( -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards @AnshaKotyk It sure seems that way, doesn't it -- 'reluctant boy readers' seems to be a Thing #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @elliefalcone Done honestly without the "bells and whistles." Boys fall in love too. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman I agree RT @elissacruz: I wonder if girls have a higher tolerance/love for description. My boys skip those parts. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto @AnshaKotyk I sometimes wonder if 'reluctant reader' is just code for 'boy' #MGlitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Boys have a hard time picking up a book with just a girl on the cover. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk I avoid romance when writing MG's RT @timothypower67: Ugh to MG romance. That's YA territory to me. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @timothypower67 This is a great point -- clash of genders is a real engine for drama! #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone Me too. A little crush but that's it. RT @timothypower67: Ugh to MG romance. Thats YA territory to me. #MGlitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis @elissacruz That's what made my voice more "girl" I've been told. Too much description. But not all boys skip that stuff, right? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari Hi Friends! Late to the party! #mglitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @timothypower67 Even MG girls want romance! #MGlitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba Almost forgot about #mglitchat! -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @jmaschari Me too... #MGLITCHAT -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @tcanny Hello! #MGlitchat -9:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @michaelascotto @AnshaKotyk Jeff Kinney said as much this summer at his ALA keynote #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman RT @elliefalcone: Me too. A little crush but that's it. RT @timothypower67: Ugh to MG romance. Thats YA territory 2 me. #MGlitchat ( agree!) -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman In my experience, boys need something in addition to emotional content--facts, a mystery, etc. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards @JonathanAuxier Hey Jon, congrats on the radio interview today, by the way ;-) #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik I think the thing that's missing from MG and YA is the handling of boy relationships. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes What about boys reading mysteries w/girl MCs? #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman MG romance can be that awkwardness, first stirrings, etc, but not much more than that I think. #MGlitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @jjhoutman That's really general though. There's not that much mg that's _just_ emotional content, esp. in genre. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @JonathanAuxier @michaelascotto Must look up this ALA speech! #mglitchat -9:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba I hate the fact that "for boys" means "reluctant reader." #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @jjhoutman I really have a girl that reads like a boy then. Daughter prefers non-fiction, mysteries, Guinness Book, etc. #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I am very reluctant to classify any book to my students as a "boy" book or "girl" book - really limits audience + puts stigma #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @LaurelSnyder What do you mean NEED? As in need to make that kid read on whether boy or girl? #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
HoppingReads #mglitchat first time here, listening in. I teach 6th grade, blog abt tween books. http://t.co/9OI0r3r is what comes 2 mind w/topic -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 It's wrong to think of ALL boys and ALL girls of course. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @earthwards @JonathanAuxier Not radio - newspaper. Which is good, considering how I can ramble! #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone RT @mudmamba: I hate the fact that "for boys" means "reluctant reader." #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer The girls in my class will read everything. Only exception is sports books geared for boys. #Mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti @john_zeleznik Do you mean boys' relationships with girls, other boys, or others? #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston Hiya! #mglitchat I thing boys love action, depth, and an awesome ride. My son hates the slow parts. Likes the info woven in dialogue -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @AngelaAckerman Right, keep it awkward, sweet and funny #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
deegarretson so true @timothypower67 Boys have a hard time picking up a book with just a girl on the cover. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @PHCMarchesi You're just in time! #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier I know a lot of people say MG needs to be more action driven. Do we think that's true for MG aimed at BOTH genders? #mglitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @VonnaCarter Exactly! #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto @john_zeleznik I remember The House With a Clock in its Walls handling that well #MGlitchat -9:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman @MikeGrinti My son lost interest in a book when the science went away and it was just about the MC's emotional journey. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @rachelgrinti With other boys in particular. In this environment of bullying, I think that's been washed out. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @john_zeleznik @elliefalcone I agree...without the love. I think they fall in deep like. #MGlitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @HoppingReads Welcome! #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @JonathanAuxier I don't, but then I prefer the "quiet" kind of MG--I suppose it is "girl" and "character driven." #MGlitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi RT @JonathanAuxier: Does ...MG needs to be more action driven...when it's aimed at BOTH genders? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Any reader is reluctant when he or she is made to read a book they don't like. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
WriterRoss RT @mudmamba: If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #MGLITCHAT -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly This--> “@michaelascotto: @AnshaKotyk I sometimes wonder if 'reluctant reader' is just code for 'boy' #MGlitchat” -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @JonathanAuxier I think the pacing is very important, so stuff needs to HAPPEN, be it action or intrigue or twist and turns #MGlitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I had a boy who LOVED Grace Lin's books which are thought of by some as "girl" books - without label he was open to them #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston I know my boys typically prefer books with male mc #MGlitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis RT @mudmamba: If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites Will boys even read a book with a girl protagonist? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore Difference between boys and girls IS in the way they see the world (specifically what they focus on & how they relate to others). #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @elliefalcone @librarykelly Obviously heavier romance is closer to YA, but crushes happen in middle school too. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Kids should be encouraged to drop a book they don't like after giving it a decent try. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman Me, too. RT @susanjsteward: Daughter prefers non-fiction, mysteries, Guinness Book, etc. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari RT 100% @mudmamba: If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk Action for both genders because of their age/maturity? RT @JonathanAuxier: #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz Re: mysteries, "boy" mysteries are more about the action, "girl" mysteries are more about the mystery, I think. #MGlitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman RT @john_zeleznik: @elliefalcone @librarykelly Obviously heavier romance is closer to YA, but crushes happen in middle school too. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @jjhoutman How much do you think was actually anything gender related vs. just the quality of the book? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto @JonathanAuxier @michaelascotto @AnshaKotyk haha, I feel especially wise now #MGlitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston My son liked Hunger Games RT @JonPriceWrites: Will boys even read a book with a girl protagonist? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @jmaschari You're not late! Jump on the train! #MGlitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis RT @JoWhittemore: Difference between boys and girls IS in the way they see the world (specifically what they focus on & how they relate to others). #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @KDuBayGillis @mudmamba How is that less totalizing than the previous statement? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari @JonPriceWrites Yes, they will. Loved Maximum Ride #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @JoWhittemore Can you illustrate that with an example? How is the way boys see the world different from girls'? #MGLITCHAT -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis I'm just retweeting what all the smart kids say...#mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti @john_zeleznik Interesting, do you have a MG title or 2 that you think does do it well? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
booksbyjason @JonPriceWrites Heck yeah - I love a strong female in a book - good or bad! #mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer When it comes to fantasy, my boys will read books with girl protagonists. Sister's Grimm is a good example. #Mglitchat -9:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @LM_Preston So the answer is--yes, if that girl kills people. ;) #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @elissacruz I think this is why so many action books with a boy & girl protag have a mystery component. #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @JonPriceWrites Absolutely! Cry of the Icemark was a big "boy" hit #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards I also think a huge part of it is how their brains work - boys have a lot more activity in the 'action' parts of their brains #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @librarykelly I don't even know. I just get tired of talking about what sells to whom. #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rhondasaunders @timothypower67 Exactly. This journaling--tracking pages read to be checked by the teacher...made my son hate reading. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 MG books with something for everyone can't go wrong! #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba @JonathanAuxier @KDuBayGillis @mudmamba I don't follow. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto @JonPriceWrites I know as a kid I did #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
WriterRoss Don't think I've ever intentionally read book 4 action. I don't notice things like that. I get people. I like 2 read about them. #MGLITCHAT -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi Hear, hear! RT @LaurelSnyder: @librarykelly I don't even know. I just get tired of talking about what sells to whom. #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @LM_Preston @JonPriceWrites My son loved it too and is now reading Divergent #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @KDuBayGillis @elissacruz I don't think all boys do. Just like not all girls <3heavily descriptive books. They're all individual. #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross Hi All *waves* #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik Boys bust chops, rib, poke fun, whatever you want to call it. It needs to be integral to a "boy" book. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I always based my suggestions on knowing the reader- not their gender. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman Does anyone feel that the same trends that affect YA also affect MG? #MGlitchat -9:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston @VonnaCarter @susanjsteward Lol, I guess so :-D girl killing people, have a chip on the shoulder and is tough #MGlitchat @JonPriceWrites -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman @MikeGrinti I loved both the science and emotion, daughter also. High-quality writing #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly Sorry for that goofy <3 in that last tweet. I couldn't get everything in otherwise. #MGlitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti I agree. RT @timothypower67: Kids should be encouraged to drop a book they dont like after giving it a decent try. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @AngelaAckerman No, I think it's different interests. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @john_zeleznik And that's why I LOVE boys & their humor. That's how my day is/was. We're always teasing each other. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder There is another half to the conversation, which is how to help kids enjoy a broader spectrum. I really think we sell them short #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards This isn't to say that girls don't love action either :P #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz @AngelaAckerman Yes, I think you're right about that. #MGlitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @LaurelSnyder Remember, you don't have to! talk OR care! :D Just write the books you want to write. That's how I write. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
HoppingReads RT @timothypower67: Kids should be encouraged to drop a book they don't like after giving it a decent try. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman RT @MikeGrinti: @LaurelSnyder Remember, you don't have to! talk OR care! :D Just write the books you want to write. That's how I write. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross I meant my DAD, lol! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards Bingo RT @timothypower67 MG books with something for everyone can't go wrong! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mimicross But there is no malice in it, no matter HOW awful it sounds. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
deegarretson I'm glad to see so much MG has boy and girl MCs as friends, and when both are on the cover, less issue of kids being turned off #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer Me too. RT @jmaschari: I always based my suggestions on knowing the reader- not their gender. #Mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier Do we think we see a gender-story-preference split at a certain age? Are 9yr old boys more open to girl protags than 11yr olds? #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @LaurelSnyder Yes yes! Always lots of talk about how to "target" boys, less about how to make them feel good reading broader! #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @AngelaAckerman Yeah, awkwardness! #MGlitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti RT @LaurelSnyder: There is another half to the conversation, which is how to help kids enjoy a broader spectrum. I really think we sell them short #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto RT @jmaschari: I always based my suggestions on knowing the reader- not their gender. #MGlitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @MikeGrinti Hey Mike! #MGlitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @rachelgrinti I can't think of any titles off the top of my head that do it well. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer @AngelaAckerman In what way? #Mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I believe many boys are more drawn to "action" elements. But that doesn't mean they AREN'T drawn to other things. Likewise girls. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss a well pubbed author told me "boys change coz of what happens to them", "girls change coz of what goes on inside" #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
crissachappell RT @mudmamba: If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
booksbyjason @LaurelSnyder Yes, boys are definitely drawn to girl. :) #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis RT @librarykelly: @KDuBayGillis @elissacruz I don't think all boys do. Just like not all girls <3heavily descriptive books. They're all individual. #MGlitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly RT @timothypower67: Any reader is reluctant when he or she is made to read a book they don't like. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMessner I've never set out to write a "girl book" or "boy book" but I think my new dystopian MG will appeal to more boys than my 1st 2. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik I think a lot of boys like nonfiction more than they like ficiton. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman My published MG and both WIPs have boy protags. Not sure why. I'm not a boy. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @smozer Vampires, werewolves, zombies, angels...etc #MGlitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @john_zeleznik Unfortunately malice can hide, you know the expression, behind every joke . Truth lurks there, or anger sometimes #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston What age do you think boys stop picking up books to read #MGlitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I think we need to understand that different things appeal to different readers (and that is awesome!) but let's give them credit #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
dcbphd RT @mudmamba: If you ever say "boys like" or "girls like"... you are ALREADY WRONG. No matter what comes next. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @JonPriceWrites YES! I've seen it. #MGlitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @jjhoutman On the other hand... why not? Writers should try to write outside themselves at least some of the time! #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis I like MG books that have boy/girl teams...I think showing boy/girls working together is important and cool for this age. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @jjhoutman I have just started my MG ms, 2 boys, I think boys are so funny, thus fun 2 write. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I think kids (esp. MG) are willing to branch out - try new genres and types of stories. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @JoWhittemore That's deep. #MGlitchat -9:13 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @AngelaAckerman @MikeGrinti I don't, though my books are "girl books" I'm told. But I like mgchat so I'm here! #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @rachelgrinti I'll use an adult example, Ryan and Esposito from Castle. Probably deep ball busters when they were kids. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @KDuBayGillis Yay! I got one! #MGLITCHAT -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @MikeGrinti @LaurelSnyder I just write what I would have wanted to read at that age. My ideal was non romance, action, sf #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @john_zeleznik @elliefalcone Yes. Sometimes far too many crushes. #MGlitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @john_zeleznik But MOSTLY no malice :) #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston Me Too! RT @KDuBayGillis: I like MG books that have boy/girl teams... #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari @LaurelSnyder We are really on the same page about this. I 100 percent agree. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @KDuBayGillis I so agree Re: boys & girls working together. Those are the MG I remember loving the most. #MGlitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti @john_zeleznik Let me know if you think of some later, I'm curious! :) #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @mudmamba To say someone's wrong for maintaining boyvs.girl reading patterns is no less extreme than rigidly upholding stereotype #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman @LaurelSnyder I write both girl and boy protags, but my books are mystery adventure rather than emotional I think #MGlitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz Slightly OT, but in any book, boys usually show affection by punching each other. Girls do the hug and squeal thing. #MGlitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites Agreed. Do you think kids even consider if the protagonist is a boy or girl? #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @MikeGrinti My boys like poetry, because I READ them poetry. They also love ninjas and guns. Doesn't mean they don't like Yeats. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @LM_Preston Mine has twins. I wanted them to be co-heroes. It was a lot of fun writing from both perspectives! #MGLITCHAT -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari Know your target audience but never limit yourself. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mimicross My friends and I were BRUTAL to each other. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMessner @LaurelSnyder I think classroom read-alouds go a long way toward introducing kids to books they might not otherwise pick up. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman RT @PippaBayliss: "boys change coz of what happens to them", "girls change coz of what goes on inside" #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss @john_zeleznik yeah, seems to be common #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @smozer Yeah! Love it! #MGlitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I think if the writing is really compelling, and the characters great, a book can "cross over" though the boys might be shyer #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @LaurelSnyder: I agree with that. All kids have different preferences. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari @LM_Preston If guided and encouraged, I think never. :) But probably around 7th grade they move to adult books. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston @PHCMarchesi frat twins? one boy one girl? #MGlitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik I think I write "boys" books....and there is ALWAYS a strong female character in the mix. Always. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @PHCMarchesi A girl slighted by another will analyze, trying to figure out who, what, why? A guy will just think, "What a jerk!" #MGlitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman Agreed RT @john_zeleznik: I think a lot of boys like nonfiction more than they like fiction. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
WriterRoss @mimicross @john_zeleznik I always tell my kids: The p.s. "JUST kidding" after a comment that may hurt doesn't wash the zing away #MGLITCHAT -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
HoppingReads .@KateMessner #mglitchat because of genre or bec of the way you're writing it? Or something else? -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman I think this is why covers are so critical--they need to appeal to boys and girls #MGlitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @john_zeleznik Hmm . . . sometimes it's funny, and sometimes it's 'people who hurt, hurt'. That's how my less than good mc is #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @LaurelSnyder Way to be reasonable! (re. your comment about just because it's a trend doesn't mean it's a rule) #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone @KDuBayGillis Me too. Like have the boy/girl team. #MGlitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston @jmaschari I know my son stopped in Middle School, #MGlitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer @AngelaAckerman Have there been those kinds of books in middle grade? Haven't seen many. #Mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross Whoa this chat is going so fast! #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti RT @KDuBayGillis: I like MG books that have boy/girl teams...I think showing boy/girls working together is important and cool for this age. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari I love this heated conversation! A lot of interesting thought and opinions going on here! #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rhondasaunders @KDuBayGillis Me too. But I'm biased. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Kids shouldn't be discouraged to read below their age group. If easier to read means happier reading, so be it. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman Oh dear, washing machine is making angry noises...brb #MGlitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMessner Lots of people categorize my 1st two books as "girl books," but I've gotten mail from lots of boys who read GIANNA Z. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik In both of my books (granted YA) there's plenty of kissing along with swordfights and jousts. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross Loving this 'boy & girl team' idea!!! #mglitchat Great advice! -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @LaurelSnyder You're looking for more of what they need 4 a lesson/what they need that might help w/ current life situation? #MGlitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 RT @susanjsteward: @KDuBayGillis I so agree Re: boys & girls working together. Those are the MG I remember loving the most. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @librarykelly I had a crush every two weeks in MS! #mglitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LianaBrooks RT @AngelaAckerman: I think this is why covers are so critical--they need to appeal to boys and girls #MGlitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jmaschari @KateMessner @LaurelSnyder Sadly that is too long for me to retweet but you speak the truth. :) #mglitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mimicross Better way to phrase it than I did. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba When we say what boys like and what girls like, we are telling them what they like. Setting expectations. Establishing roles. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @LM_Preston Yup. But their personalities are looks are different, so it allows them to be close but different from each other. #MGLITCHAT -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk I remember avoiding this like the plague as a MG'r. RT @elissacruz: Girls do the hug and squeal thing. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @LaurelSnyder I agree. #MGlitchat -9:18 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I disagree. RT jjhoutman RT @PippaBayliss: "boys change coz of what happens to them", "girls change coz of what goes on inside" #mglitchat -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny I thought The Fourth Stall handled boy relationships well. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
deegarretson @JonPriceWrites I think it depends on a school's environment, some feed the more rigid stereotypes of what's gender appropriate #mglitchat -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman Come to think of it, I prefer to read "boy books." #mglitchat -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston @PHCMarchesi That's a good twist #MGlitchat what about pacing of at #MGlitchat novel? -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 The less stereotypical a boy and girl MC are, the more a reader of opposite gender will like them. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @JonathanAuxier I am a consummate fence sitter #mglitchat -9:20 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss I guess the skill is to know the differences between the genders at the age you're writing for. Kids spot phonies pretty quick. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @JonathanAuxier Not 25? LOL #MGLITCHAT -9:20 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes Holy cow. Left to tuck kids in and came back to 104 new tweets. Help! #mglitchat -9:20 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @JonathanAuxier I dunno that I agree. Know at least 1 17yr old that fell for Twilight. I prob. would have at that age too. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill Oh dear, talk of boy books and girl books kinda makes my head explode. It always flies in the face of my *experience* with kids. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss @LM_Preston @jmaschari my son read the same book over and over instead of trying new bks. A friend's kid reads his fave authors. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @librarykelly I'm saying that would be more interesting to discuss, though it might also be crapola. #MGlitchat -9:22 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @elissacruz Typically. But I, personally, am not a hugger and I only squeal when something is on sale. #MGlitchat -9:22 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LianaBrooks RT @smozer: RT @KDuBayGillis I like MG books that have boy/girl teams. Showing boy/girls working together is important and cool for this age. #Mglitchat -9:22 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites @kellybarnhill Which is? #mglitchat -9:22 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KrisYankee Oh man..I've got a wip due on Saturday & I'm missin this great boy vs girl chat. Shoot! I want to stay, but I gotta write #mglitchat -9:22 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill Why are we still having conversations in which books are gender identified? Why? Books should BREAK barriers, not build them. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti re: covers appealing to both. Does this end up meaning "appeals to boys" since the thought is that girls will read more widely? #mglitchat -9:24 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @mimicross Re: happy endings, yes. Or satisfying ones. No doom & gloom, but not necessarily everything tied up in a neat bow? #mglitchat -9:24 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @mudmamba YES! This is issue. I think kids do tend to be interested in things, naturally, & gender is real, but shouldn't LIMIT #mglitchat -9:24 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @tcanny I'll have to check that book out. The Fourth Stall #mglitchat -9:24 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis Did my tweet about @boysdontread show up? A great blog (more YA focused tho) addressing these issues. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi RT @earthwards: I think the point is, you can't put kids into boxes. They may have 'trends' in their reading, but if it's good, they'll read it. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty *agrees* RT @AngelaAckerman: @PHCMarchesi Thats a good thing--the bossy girl is a bit overdone IMO #mglitchat -9:26 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @LaurelSnyder @PippaBayliss Agree w /Laurel #MGlitchat -9:26 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti Curious... does anyone here actually try to make their book "boy" or "girl"? This something mst writrs think about when writing? #mglitchat -9:26 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss there's no need to stereotype. Make whichever gender believable and likeable - but don't tell me boys and girls aren't different #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @PHCMarchesi The thing is - they do. I see it all the time. But the perception still exists, and marketing follows perception. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
SMullenGilbert @jjhoutman I prefer "boy books" as well...think my inner child is a 12-yr-old boy. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @MikeGrinti Again, YA, BUT, I had an agent call my book a "boy book" with enough in it to appeal to girls. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @MikeGrinti I think some writers do. Barrie deliberately combined boys adventure and girls domestic fairy story for PEter Pan. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @timothypower67 Yes. Highlights the necessity of writing a believable character, not a cookie cutter 2-dimensional one. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis RT @PippaBayliss: I guess the skill is to know the differences between the genders at the age you're writing for. Kids spot phonies pretty quick. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @kellybarnhill AAARGGH! #MGLITCHAT -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @LaurelSnyder PT II Maybe that's why I like to write bad guys ;) #mglitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @MikeGrinti Not at all. I think my books come out "Susan"--that's probably part Judy Blume, part Carl Sagan, part Muppet. #MGlitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AlisonFargis RT @librarykelly: @librarykelly I think the Sisters Grimm series by @michaelwbuckley is a great example of a book(s) that appeals to both #MGlitchat -9:27 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @MikeGrinti Because I hang out with a LOT of kids. And they read EVERYTHING. The categories are meaningless. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @LaurelSnyder I agree about following trends. This bums me. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba I feel like it lowers expectations for boys and for their books. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
CheriWilliams Oh noes! Did I break TweetChat?! HellooOooOoo... #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @mimicross Oh, that's hard. I can relate. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites @PippaBayliss Agreed #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @KateMessner Good to hear. I LOVE the 14 yr. old boy in my YA paranormal romance, he's secondary but so important :) #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @tcanny Yes. I really enjoyed reading that one. :) #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik Yeah, but that's outside the writing of it. If you weren't worrying about it when you wrote it... it's marketing. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Gwenda RT @LaurelSnyder: I think we limit them more with marketing than with content. I think GREAT books cross over. I think there's no standard "girl." #mglitchat -9:28 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Karenof4 @LaurelSnyder I agree. A good book will be read by both. #MgLitChat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny I'm thinking you don't want to write to a stereotype but at some point you've got to write to some common denominator in readers. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @Karenof4 Minor quibble: just b/c a book is only read by girls or boys doesn't make it not good. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KDuBayGillis @AnshaKotyk I was wondering what is going on...Twitter in general seems slooooow. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
crissachappell RT @kellybarnhill: Why are we still having conversations in which books are gender identified? Why? Books should BREAK barriers, not build them. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards RT @LaurelSnyder: I think we limit them more with marketing than with content. I think GREAT books cross over. I think there's no standard "girl." #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 The range of interest for MG is the whole world. For YA, it's an object or two of affection. Give me the world! :) #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rhondasaunders First book I LOVED loved was in 5th grade. My Side of the Mountain. Nobody told me it was a boy book. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AngelaAckerman Sorry, must run--great #MGlitchat so far! Night all -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss Agree! RT @timothypower67: The less stereotypical a boy and girl MC are, the more a reader of opposite gender will like them. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Aug 18th, 2011
HP4Writers RT @AngelaAckerman: Does anyone feel that the same trends that affect YA also affect MG? #MGlitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba RT @kellybarnhill: @JonPriceWrites And these kids never ask me about what's a boy book and what's a girl book. They ask, "What's GOOD?" #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LM_Preston @PippaBayliss Yeah kids do have fav authors #MGlitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @kellybarnhill Mine too, and yet I'm here. It would be more fun with a barbrawl. #maybeillgetadrink #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Karenof4 @PippaBayliss Yep! Kids are quick & smart. My kids can't get through the first page if the voice is phony. #MgLitChat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @AnshaKotyk You need a special "it" factor - something no formular can get you - for both to read. #MGLITCHAT -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @KateMilford Yes and it's a total shame! #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @kellybarnhill: these kids never ask me about what's a boy book and what's a girl book. They ask, "What's GOOD?" Good point #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford This comes more from my bookstore experience than my writing exp--lots of bks I think boys should love but covers are SO GIRLY. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @timothypower67 Amen. And give me kids of both genders who can be FRIENDS with the other gender, without a romantic thought. #MGlitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer @john_zeleznik Boys have many interests. So do girls. Most of my students fall in love with genres or authors. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @LaurelSnyder: If boys are "reluctant" we've made them so. Again, marketing. Generations of marketing what "boy" is. #buttheydolikegunsandtrucks #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @KateMessner Cool. Will have to check it out. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba RT @LaurelSnyder: I think we limit them more with marketing than with content. I think GREAT books cross over. I think there's no standard "girl." #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba RT @kellybarnhill: Why are we still having conversations in which books are gender identified? Why? Books should BREAK barriers, not build them. #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @michaelascotto Switched to TweetDeck ... much better! #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Okay, I got Tweetdeck set up quickly, hopefully can keep up now. #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder LANGUAGE, CHARACTER, TRUTH, EXCITEMENT, a perfect cover, and a fun teacher who isn't afraid to suggest it. @AnshaKotyk @Karenof4 #MgLitChat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly I really think the bottom line w/ this boys v. girls thing is, left alone, a kid of any gender will read what looks good to them. #MGlitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross Pick up readers, pick up book, you know what I mean, lol! I hope! #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susan_marie @LaurelSnyder Yep, and all of them make wonderful read-alouds. I think that the read-aloud piece is really special and important. #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
earthwards @LaurelSnyder There was an interesting post today by @Kate_Hart re: how 'girly' covers are (in ya, but still) - makes you wonder #mglitchat -9:31 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder Don't be bummed. Join me at the ramparts. #withabottleofwineplease @JonathanAuxier #MgLitChat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer @KateMessner My boys were excited to read that too. They liked it because it sounded funny. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @susan_marie Can't wait until I can read #MySonIs5 Harry Potter :) #mglitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier My Q: does the pan-gender appeal thing work in later grades? boys n girls really do segment off in separate groups in 4th-5thgrd #mglitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @LaurelSnyder: LANGUAGE, CHARACTER, TRUTH, EXCITEMENT, a perfect cover, and a fun teacher who isn't afraid to suggest it. @AnshaKotyk @Karenof4 #MgLitChat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti RT @story_queen: Sometimes it seems more like the cover of a book determines if it is "boy" or "girl" more than the story itself #mglitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Sensible MG characters of either gender do not squeal. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @timothypower67 Yes, but then you develop new stereotypes of "the tough chick" and "feelings dude" #MGlitchat -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell Just like O'Doyle, Boys Rule! Okay, got the Billy Madison reference out of the way. What's up #mglitchat. Love the topic! -9:32 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites Do any of you write with reader gender in mind? I personally didn't think about it. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @JonathanAuxier: My Q: does the pan-gender appeal thing work in later grades? boys n girls really do segment off in separate groups in 4th-5thgrd #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward Tell that to Wilbur. RT @timothypower67: Sensible MG characters of either gender do not squeal. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross RT @librarykelly: It is up 2 parents, teachers, librarians, etc., 2 inspire the child to reach outside their comfort zone for another type of book. #MGlitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik I was waiting for you to show up @mswinchell ! I'm drowning in the estrogen, brah! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @JoWhittemore Fighting stereotypes creates stereotypes! Agh! Can't win! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @timothypower67: Who needs MG characters to be sensible? ;-) #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross LOL! RT @john_zeleznik: I was waiting for you to show up @mswinchell ! I'm drowning in the estrogen, brah! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @librarykelly @elissacruz Then I will chest-bump you if we ever meet in person. :-) #MGlitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @susanjsteward "Tell that to Wilbur" You just won the internet! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @story_queen Right, which just further removes the distinction from the kids themselves. Instead marketers decide. :-/ #mglitchat -9:34 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba RT @librarykelly: It is up 2 parents, teachers, librarians, etc., 2 inspire the child to reach outside their comfort zone for another type of book. #MGlitchat -9:34 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @JonathanAuxier Nope. We have been assimilated. Resistance is futile. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @JonathanAuxier OMG! And I have no speech prepared. #MGlitchat -9:34 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @elissacruz Tweetdeck is doing ok. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @elissacruz tweetdeck is working #MGlitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @mswinchell LOL! Brah vs. Bra! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonathanAuxier @LaurelSnyder This is something people don't talk about enough. We're so excited about story, that we've forgotten why it exists! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @PHCMarchesi @jonathanauxier Mua to the ha ha!! #MGlitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @kellybarnhill YES, THIS! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
trkravtin RT @LaurelSnyder: feels like books are now FOLLOWING product & media trends. Boys=video games and fighting. Girls=cupcakeponies. #booksshouldlead #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill Forget boy vs. girl: books just need to be GREAT, with a broad diversity of style and tempo and technique, and plenty of 'em. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 RT @WriterRoss: Let's not intentionally segregate readers. I would have flipped if someone told me "Don't read this. It's not for you." {} #MGLITCHAT -9:35 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMessner @LaurelSnyder You think ALL books should broad 1st, entertain 2nd? I think there's a real place for the fluffy beach read, too. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rhondasaunders Holy slow #mglitchat. What's with that? Only my second time using tweetchat. -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer @john_zeleznik Boys and girls "read up" when it comes to fantasy because there aren't enough high fantasies at lower levels. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LianaBrooks RT @kellybarnhill: Forget boy vs. girl: books just need to be GREAT, with a broad diversity of style and tempo and technique, and plenty of 'em. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mudmamba RT @kellybarnhill: Forget boy vs. girl: books just need to be GREAT, with a broad diversity of style and tempo and technique, and plenty of 'em. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @elliefalcone The boys of course! They break everything ;) #HeartsIncluded *Sobs* #mglitchat -9:36 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 RT @kellybarnhill: Books should BREAK barriers, not build them. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @JenniferCEstes But I think it's the only way to go w these chats, hand in there! #mglitchat #tweetdeck -9:37 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @story_queen Instead it's grownups of narrow thinking and limited imaginations. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman I can read tweets on Tweetdeck but can't figure out how to RT and reply #mglitchat -9:38 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @KateMilford I know, right? It's maddening! I feel that way as a teacher, as a mom of both boys and girls and a writer. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @KateMessner Think fluffy beach reads can broaden! And yeah, I think some books= entertainment only, bt I think of them like TV #mglitchat -9:39 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jimhill @mimicross boys get brokenhearts too! #HeartsIncluded #mglitchat -9:40 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore @mswinchell Again this does not jive with my experience. I talk to a broad range of kids, and they read EVERYTHING. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @john_zeleznik Maybe - but most of the kids I talk to don't care. Again, they just want GOOD books. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell Look at PM deal list and see the pleth-or-a-friggin'-joke-if-you-ask-me of girl-oriented YA shoveled (chose the word) out there #mglitchat -9:41 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Harriet Welsch could easily have been Harry W. That she wasn't is what makes her so interesting. #mglitchat -9:42 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @timothypower67 Harriet Potter...would as many people have bought the book? #mglitchat -9:42 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @susanjsteward I demand ROBOT PRINCESSES! Make it so! #mglitchat -9:42 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @john_zeleznik I dislike "boy book" AND "girl book". I'm for bridging the gap. #mglitchat -9:43 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore You "talk" to them and I teach them. I am immersed in their daily lives. It jives. Trust me. #mglitchat -9:44 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @smozer Sorry, who had the boy/girl appeal? #HeartsIncluded #mglitchat -9:44 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Karenof4 @MikeGrinti No, I didn't mean that a book that couldn't be read by both isn't good, just able to reach broader audience. #MgLitChat -9:45 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @JonathanAuxier Hey, a superhero who fights villains that are...wait for it...stereotypes. Must write that down. #mglitchat -9:45 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @jmaschari There is a little hash button below where you type. Click it, and you see recent hash tags. It helps me a lot. #mglitchat -9:45 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Karenof4 @LaurelSnyder @AnshaKotyk YES! #MgLitChat -9:47 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @john_zeleznik What the heck's a tweetdeck?! Is that a Trekkie reference, John? #mglitchat -9:48 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I'm working on a girl robot named Roberta right now! @MikeGrinti @susanjsteward #mglitchat -9:48 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford @kellybarnhill When they're hardcover, I can work around it. Take off the cover, it's a whole new book. :) #booksellerprotip #mglitchat -9:48 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer RT @MikeGrinti: @susanjsteward I demand ROBOT PRINCESSES! Make it so! #mglitchat -9:48 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi @timothypower67 Nope. But the question is: would boys have read it? A lot fewer, I think. #MGLITCHAT -9:49 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mswinchell Heh, you should try it at MY school. Heh. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PHCMarchesi Unfortunately I have to go - thanks for the great discussion! #MGLITCHAT -9:49 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @KateMilford @kellybarnhill Works for my kid! #MGlitchat -9:49 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell And sure, there are kids who gravitate to certain books but not ALL. Which is why we need LOTS of kinds of books. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell And sure, there are kids who gravitate to certain books but not ALL. Which is why we need LOTS of kinds of books. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 @PHCMarchesi Maybe boys would have gotten into it if the character name wasn't in the title! Girls covers turn them off. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti @mswinchell Problem is not that boys wouldn't enjoy it (they are funny books!) is that they are afraid to for fear of mocking. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @jimhill Wow. Sounds like a treasure trove! #mglitchat Pick out a few choice lines and send them to me? #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @mswinchell Have decided my new biz venture is faux book jackets for embarrassed boy readers. #SlaughterDiaries #MGlitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @PHCMarchesi Good point. MG boys' needs are met and then some. Wait...I write MG...why am I complaining. OK, forget what I said. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @kellybarnhill Very good point. I love that there's so much variety. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @john_zeleznik Oh yeah. At your school is a glock in the groin, not a butt kicking. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Amiegr8tstuff @CheriWilliams haha! sounds like something i'd request! #MGlitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore @mswinchell Well, my girls don't go for Princess Diaries either. But not all "girl books" are Pricness Diaries. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Clearly covers need to be gender sensitive. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder Of course! @story_queen @KateMessner #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @story_queen MG? The Ranger's Apprentice series comes to mind. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto I think I'm going to have to call it due to massive lag...wish I could have fought more with y'all ;) #MGlitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @rachelgrinti Sad, because they are so cleverly written! #MGlitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @michaelascotto Too bad! I didn't even get to talk to you tonight! #mglitchat -9:51 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @MattPhelanDraws Can they eat themselves? Will you do the art? #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Many little boys at the library (5-6 yrs) no problem wanting Barbie movies, fairy wands. When they are MG age, often changes. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @timothypower67: Clearly covers need to be gender sensitive. Disagree. Covers need to sell books. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman @LaurelSnyder #mglitchat I'd rather have a few kids adore my books than a lot of kids sorta liking it. -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore Name a couple. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @AnshaKotyk It such a downer thing to say, but I study visual culture and Am. society. Gendered marketing exists across media. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @JoWhittemore Sorry, which are sad because they're well written? #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @jjhoutman: @LaurelSnyder #mglitchat I'd rather have a few kids adore my books than a lot of kids sorta liking it. -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell And sure, there are kids who gravitate to certain books but not ALL. Which is why we need LOTS of kinds of books. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @story_queen I wanted to say about "boy" books -- for my kid, anything not about a girl. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore @mswinchell My books are "girl books." You can tell by the covers. #thatallyouneedtoknow #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mswinchell I have 1 move, I take my glasses off & tell the kid, "You get one for free...make it count." Usually cracks them up. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @rachelgrinti That's #MySonIs5 He was saying hello to the butterflies in our garden the other day :) #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @themediabunny I was an anthropology major so I hear ya. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @mimicross The Princess Diaries. Sad that it's not one a guy would pick up. #MGlitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @jjhoutman Same here. I'm after a crowd who isn't very "girly" or "boyish," I suppose. If I pick up other readers, terrific. #MGlitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @LaurelSnyder Covers are weird though... v. similar books can get covers based purely on author's gender. >...< #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford @JonPriceWrites @timothypower67 Covers can appeal to both girls and boys. Those covers exist & frankly, they're easier to sell #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @KateMilford: @JonPriceWrites @timothypower67 Covers can appeal to both girls and boys. Those covers exist & frankly, they're easier to sell #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @john_zeleznik Funny. Which movie is that from? #mglitchat -9:53 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @mswinchell @kellybarnhill Hmmm? Name a couple what? Did I zone out? #MGlitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @JoWhittemore We may see some change as no-cover options open up (phone, ereaders, audiobooks) #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford @JonPriceWrites @timothypower67 Again, this is me with my kids' bookseller hat on, not my writerly hat. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @story_queen And graphic novels OR manga (which if you want to talk about breaking down walls!) are boy favorites. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @MikeGrinti: @JoWhittemore We may see some change as no-cover options open up (phone, ereaders, audiobooks) #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
michaelascotto @AnshaKotyk you got it! #MGlitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer RT @jjhoutman: @LaurelSnyder #mglitchat I'd rather have a few kids adore my books than a lot of kids sorta liking it. -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @JoWhittemore @mimicross You know, do you think it would fly if an agent pitched a book to an ed as a boy Princess Diaries? Hmmm. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman @susanjsteward #mglitchat Harry Potter has 2 cover in the UK. One for kids and one for adults. Why not boy/girl? -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell @JoWhittemore My daughter and her friends devoured MAXIMUM RIDE series. Do those books have girl germs now? #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @KateMilford @JonPriceWrites @timothypower67 My first book had a duo MC team-- boy and girl. Somehow they LEFT the boy off cover. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mswinchell That's an original. Started three years ago during library duty. It's become part of the repertoire. #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @jjhoutman Ohhh, that kind of makes me sad, actually. #MGlitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @KateMilford: Covers can appeal to both girls and boys. Those covers exist & frankly, they're easier to sell - Good Point #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @jjhoutman Would be great in theory, but... shelf space is already so limited :/ HP was already pop. when adult covers happened. #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @jjhoutman They did a reversible boy/girl cover for ACROSS THE UNIVERSE. YA, not MG though. #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder We. I should say WE left him off. I learned from that. @KateMilford @JonPriceWrites @timothypower67 #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill Sorry, was talking to Kelly. She said she knew some girl books appealed to boys. I asked for couple #mglitchat -9:55 PM Aug 18th, 2011
deegarretson @jjhoutman many of the European editions of the first Harry Potter had Hermione and Ron on the cover as well. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell @JoWhittemore Is a book "girl" because some girls read it? Is a book "boy" because someone farts? #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @story_queen Yeah, but it's not proportional. It's just not and if you can't see it then you are blind to it. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder But that's also their appeal! Girls gravitate to them because they know you had them in mind. #MGlitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @story_queen Not always. Just the "it's about a girl" thing. With 3 sisters, I think he cherishes whatever boy time he gets! #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore I wouldn't call MAX RIDE a girl book #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill Stereotypes! Aren't we trying to fight stereotypes? #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny What's nagging me re: the boy v. girl books is what those (&our) distinctions are *perpetuating* about gender for MG kiddos. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @kellybarnhill: Is a book "girl" because some girls read it? Is a book "boy" because someone farts? Awesome and yes. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @kellybarnhill I will! :) #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
maryj59 @timothypower67 Love everything you've said! Did you see my blog post on this? #mglitchat -9:56 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @themediabunny I agree. #mglitchat. It's interesting that it's socially okay for girls to read boy books, but not the other way around. -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore The MG boys I know do #MGlitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell @JoWhittemore Is a book "girl" because some girls read it? Is a book "boy" because someone farts? #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder When we ask for "girl books" that have crossed over, we are asking "Which books that haven't crossed over have crossed over?" #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @themediabunny Agree. Same thing that bothers me about modeling that every boy/girl relationship should end in romance. #MGlitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @JoWhittemore Hmm. I wonder if it had had a different title, like Royal Diary or something? #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk I see a great many blog posts stemming from this #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @DanyelleLeafty Yes, exactly that. #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder I mean, is Hunger Games a girl book? #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell In the end, books need to celebrate the diversity of the boy experience and the girl experience. #mglitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill @mswinchell Nope. My books with girl protags have flaming bags of poop. #MGlitchat -9:57 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore I don't understand. Was that a real question? #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @LaurelSnyder No, and with that book I hope to break my son's "girl MC" hangup. When he's ready for it, that is! #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell In the end, books need to celebrate the diversity of the boy experience and the girl experience. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @mswinchell Sure! Yes! Um, maybe? :) #mglitchat Confession: I never read the book, saw the movie w my niece when it came out . . . -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 @maryj59 No! Going there now. Multitasking. Whoo-hoo! #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @JenniferCEstes Drives me crazy. As if it's bad for boys to look through a girl character's eyes. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik Boys & girls say different things, do different things, have different life touchstones. It makes for different stories. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jimhill @mimicross I don't know. Teen agnst, melodrama about a Danish girl? I don't think I can revisit it. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Um, yeah, totally missed #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford When I say girl book I mean a book marketed to girls or w overwhelmingly all girl cast. Ditto boy book, replacing boy with girl. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @john_zeleznik: Stereotypes! Aren't we trying to fight stereotypes? - Fight Stereotypes? I thought we were telling stories. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @WriterRoss Don't know what different about it, just paste it like this: #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @JenniferCEstes But if it isn't, then what makes a book a girl book? That mostly girls like it? #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman RT @kellybarnhill: @mswinchell In the end, books need to celebrate the diversity of the boy experience and the girl experience. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk @KristineAsselin Its a doozie tonight, join in! #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik No one is saying one is better or worse than the other. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford Content, theme, pacing and style--doesn't matter. Either works for either. I really do think it's marketing that decides. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @VonnaCarter @kellybarnhill But I wouldn't say MAX RIDE is a girl-directed book. Sure, girls like it, but not "girl" book #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell @JoWhittemore OH, and I got sidetracked on that. Here are some: Sisters Grimm, @LaurelSnyder's books, even Twilight. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @KateMilford But this is marketing, right? Mostly? Not writing? That isn't our job to think about. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik But we're all interested in what others are thinking/feeling/seeing that's diff. from us. Otherwise why read? #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @jimhill Oh PLEASE send me your teen angst! I've dragged mine over the coals , lol! #mglitchat The Danish girl, hard to say . . . -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @DanyelleLeafty Absolutely. *Should* we be writing for gender? If so, what does that say about *us* and our gender perceptions. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @DanyelleLeafty @themediabunny This happens all. The. Time. #MGlitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @mimicross Well, the Dork Diaries came along, so I think it filled the niche. :-) #MGlitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder These kids are screwed when they get older. "I don't want to read Steinbeck. It's for boys!" #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford Hence my comments on covers. Bookseller experience tells me boys will read about girls as much as girls will read about boys... #mglitchat -9:59 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes I'm wondering tho -- we are talking sterotypes about "girl" & "boy" books, but bottom line -- who labels that? It' all marketing. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti Yes! RT @LaurelSnyder: @KateMilford But this is marketing, right? Mostly? Not writing? That isn't our job to think about. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @MikeGrinti Yes, but we also want to relate to what we read. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @MikeGrinti: @john_zeleznik But we're all interested in what others are thinking/feeling/seeing that's diff. from us. Otherwise why read? #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @themediabunny Exactly! #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford Unless and basically only unless the cover tells them the book isn't for them. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @KateMilford And, yes, that's what I mean! #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
WriterRoss @mimicross Changed settings to do auto hashtag. Am I alive? How frustrating chat was for me tonight. (Not content. Service!) #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross LOL!! RT @JoWhittemore: @mimicross Well, the Dork Diaries came along, so I think it filled the niche. :-) #MGlitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Sort of like what makes boy toys v girl toys? You don't WANT there to be a difference, but sometimes it is what it is. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @WriterRoss And there you are! #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @librarykelly I wish it didn't. :( But the first step, I guess, is to make people aware. :) #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mswinchell @kellybarnhill @JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder Are you seriously saying TWILIGHT is for boys too? #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk RT @KristineAsselin: Sort of like what makes boy toys v girl toys? You don't WANT there to be a difference, but sometimes it is what it is. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Pam_Vickers RT @DanyelleLeafty: @JenniferCEstes Drives me crazy. As if it's bad for boys to look through a girl character's eyes. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @story_queen @kellybarnhill @mswinchell Hehe! Yeah, someone told me I had them at "flaming bag of poop". Quite the compliment! #MGlitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik Sure, but not every time. Sometimes you want something v. diff. Sometimes less so. We don't just read one book. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @mswinchell That's the funniest tweet I've ever read. Really. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill @mswinchell That was really my favorite part of your books, Jo! (Totally kidding!) #MGlitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin But I know I'm chiming in wicked late. :) sorry! #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder Edward Eager's books. Graveyard Book. Pippi. Narnia. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @susanjsteward YES. And heck, that every romance is heteronormative. How can we challenge these ideas in our writing? #MGlitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter @LaurelSnyder I think they tend to get past this as they mature, if they keep reading. #MGlitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
coachhays64 RT @john_zeleznik: Boys & girls say different things, do different things, have different life touchstones. It makes for different stories. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @KristineAsselin Welcome! #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell @JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder NO, I AM SAYING THAT BOYS READ IT. That's the point. Books have a life of their own. #mglitchat. -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
lisabrowndraws @LaurelSnyder Meh. Steinbeck. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @KristineAsselin Ack. Funny. I made sure son had all kinda toys, including sisters stuff. But he was a "boy" toy kid, always. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross @mswinchell Wait, haven't we been through this? #mglitchat I'm scared to even mention the book. 13 yr old friend's son liked it! #mglitchat -10:01 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill Yes, boys read it but it isn't a boy book. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LesliMuirLytle @john_zeleznik Try unplugging and plugging back in. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws Oh, dude. I love that guy. Can we still be friends? #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward Kids who read only characters of their own gender--do they grow up to be adults who can't understand "how men/women think!"? #MGlitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 Edward Eager. Sigh. Love him. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @mswinchell I'll say it. There are boys who read TWILIGHT. It's certainly for _those_ boys. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
CheriWilliams @JoWhittemore I step out for 1 sec & you start on a flaming bag of poop! What'd I miss?! @story_queen @kellybarnhill @mswinchell #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @story_queen You too!!!???? #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk *giggle*RT @story_queen: I know that I was drawn to Harry Potter because I was once a young wizard. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @susanjsteward Interesting question. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @mswinchell And I know that they read it because I've seen them read it - and read their pastiches of it. And gave them comments #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes I'm out of cake. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @AnshaKotyk: *giggle*RT @story_queen: I know that I was drawn to Harry Potter because I was once a young wizard. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Ha! RT @AnshaKotyk: *giggle*RT @story_queen: I know that I was drawn to Harry Potter because I was once a young wizard. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @AnshaKotyk @kristineasselin Holy moly! #MGlitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @JenniferCEstes The labeling isn't just marketing (though it is huge). Parents, booksellers, writers, readers all play roles too. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @VonnaCarter they won't if the machine gets stronger. Seriously. ALL BOOKS MUST BE FAST PACED, Gendered, and compete w/movies. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
PippaBayliss @susanjsteward good question - maybe they'll be adults who don't care what the other gender thinks. Ouch. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susan_marie @LaurelSnyder The Invention of Hugo Cabret. Ronia the Robber's Daughter. Because of Winn Dixie. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin But HP has such great, well rounded boys AND girls. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
coachhays64 @librarykelly Step out if the story in your head takes you there. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @timothypower67 Eager is great example of those boy/girl teams. Love that sort of sibling dynamic. Nesbit, Lewis, Streatfeild. #MGlitchat -10:03 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder Sorry, everyone, if I'm being ranty. I've been working on an essay about this and I'm all stirred up. "Should" creeps me out. #mglitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @john_zeleznik So what in god's name IS a boy book. Or a girl book. Cuz I've been reading most of my life, and I haven't a clue. #mglitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @PippaBayliss Too true. How depressing! #MGlitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti @LaurelSnyder No, you have said really interesting stuff! #mglitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz @LaurelSnyder I like ranty. Makes for good reading! #MGlitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @KateMilford Exactly. #MGlitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty This--> RT @rachelgrinti: @LaurelSnyder No, you have said really interesting stuff! #mglitchat -10:04 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @timothypower67 I wrote a book to him. I love him too. #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin I don't like stereotypical "boy" characters (tough, nerd, etc.) or girl (ditz, etc.) Real characters R more appealing. #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @KristineAsselin: I don't like stereotypical "boy" characters (tough, nerd, etc.) or girl (ditz, etc.) Real characters R more appealing. #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @LaurelSnyder I love ranty! I'm excited to read the essay because this convo is important. #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @mswinchell @kellybarnhill @jowhittemore @laurelsnyder I know tons of boys who read Twilight. #MGlitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill That's the question. Are we so afraid to admit there are differences in the audiences we write for? #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @KristineAsselin For sure! Stereotype characters don't stick out= not so memorable. #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @themediabunny Yes, true . #mglitchat -10:05 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter Me 2. MG boys. RT @librarykelly: @mswinchell @kellybarnhill @jowhittemore @laurelsnyder I know tons of boys who read Twilight. #MGlitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti RT @AnshaKotyk: I think a discussion like this,that raises more questions than answers is Awesome. Now we all go to bed & THINK. #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
mimicross Well Girls & Boys (see how I included you guys?) have to go. Great chatting w u all thanks to @LaurelSnyder & @elissacruz :) #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Would love to read! RT @LaurelSnyder: Ive been working on an essay about this and Im all stirred up. #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites RT @librarykelly: Tons of boys? #MGlitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk . It's after 10pm. Aren't we supposed to say/do something Rachel? But I don't want to stop this awesome discussion! #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik My almost completed WIp (again YA) is a boy/girl team. I'm trying balance in this one. #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LesliMuirLytle I think writing adrogenous books will take a lot of honesty out of a story. #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin RT @rachelgrinti: RT @AnshaKotyk: I think a discussion like this,that raises more questions than answers is Awesome. #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elissacruz Well, MG people, time is over and I've got a million and one things to do. Until next week, my friends. #bye #MGlitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik Telling an authentic boy's story isn't the same as trying to make sure you're writing a "boy book" #mglitchat -10:06 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @kellybarnhill @mswinchell I think in defining girl vs boy books, perhaps it's easier to say "written with said gender in mind" #MGlitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
susanjsteward @rachelgrinti @AnshaKotyk Enjoyed the chat. Night, everyone! #MGlitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik Boy's story meaning a story about a boy. #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik So if we can't recognize audience, let's do away with genre too. That'll make a lot of writers afraid of being labeled happy. #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk You ladies are doing a fabulous job! :D #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Excellent point! RT @MikeGrinti: @john_zeleznik Telling an authentic boys story isnt the same as writing a "boy book" #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @JoWhittemore I'll buy that. #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Thank you all for hanging in here through all the technical troubles! #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
DanyelleLeafty RT @KristineAsselin: Excellent point! RT @MikeGrinti: @john_zeleznik Telling an authentic boys story isnt the same as writing a "boy book" #mglitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
jjhoutman #mglitchat Great chat. Lots to think about . Head is spinning. 'Night all. -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JonPriceWrites This was great fun. #MGlitchat -10:07 PM Aug 18th, 2011
timothypower67 I love MGLitChat! Night everybody. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny @laurelsnyder I look forward to reading that essay. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
story_queen @MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik I think I prefer the former to the latter. Write the authentic story. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MrSchuReads RT @LaurelSnyder: I think books should entertain *second.* Primary goal is to broaden the life/life of the reader. World is full of enterntainment. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @MikeGrinti It is if your intended audience is boys. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
coachhays64 RT @JoWhittemore: @kellybarnhill @mswinchell I think in defining girl vs boy books, perhaps it's easier to say "written with said gender in mind" #MGlitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LesliMuirLytle #mglitchat I'm going to have to go back and read everything. Ticked I can't respond fast enough now. -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
elliefalcone Can't wait to read the transcript for this one as it flew right on by without me. Pfffttt! Curse you, tweetchat. #MGlitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @coachhays64 Good point. I have to finish some other things first...but then, bye, bye box! #MGlitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @john_zeleznik I think you can have an idea reader in mind, for sure! But when we do this en masse, it's different. Stereotypes. #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
VonnaCarter Night, all. enjoyed the chat. #MGlitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Next week's topic is The Parent Problem: How To Keep Parents Around but Not In Control. See everyone there! :) #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny Thanks for another great #mglitchat! My blood is riled up a bit, but in a scholarly way, so it's all good. -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rhondasaunders See you next week! #mglitchat -10:08 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes Awesome chat, everyone!!! #mglitchat Figuring out tweetdeck! chocolate cake! boys 'n girls! all riled up! brain on overload! thanks, all! -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @john_zeleznik Great books invite us to live in the skin of the Other. Why would we want to limit kids in their understanding? #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @tcanny I'll let you know if I manage to figure out what I want to say. It all started with The Wonderful O. #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @LaurelSnyder Not if you write a good book. If you do that with an audience in mind, it can work. #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
AnshaKotyk Transcript will be up later on the website #mglitchat http://t.co/dmxJe7b -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin RT @rachelgrinti: Next weeks topic is The Parent Problem: How To Keep Parents Around but Not In Control. See everyone there! :) #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @rachelgrinti I just have to say that topic? Sounds like a kid's version of The View! LOL #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti We will have tonight's transcript posted when we can at http://t.co/HtuowcL #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KateMilford @LaurelSnyder Agreed but I think marketing does more to differentiate than actual story & I think sometimes that causes problems #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny Thanks for all the food for thought! Goodnight! #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @CheriWilliams I have to say, it helps sell books. Kids laugh and pick it up. The book. Not poop. #MGlitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill It's not limiting. And no one is saying there can't be books that appeal to both. Really. #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JenniferCEstes @KristineAsselin @rachelgrinti OOOOHHHH! So looking forward to that!! #mglitchat -10:09 PM Aug 18th, 2011
deegarretson RT @kellybarnhill Great books invite us to live in the skin of the Other. Why would we want to limit kids in their understanding? #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @john_zeleznik Because when we say "boy book" "girl book", we imply, "this is not for you". And I reject that. #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder Nonsense! Everyone's entitled to an opinion. #MGlitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill No! Of course there are differences in people, and in books too. But when we codify them... well... #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
KristineAsselin Books that tried to appealed to EVERYONE wouldn't appeal to anyone. IMO. #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
MikeGrinti @john_zeleznik I'm just not sure that worrying about writing a "boy book" does anything useful for you or your story. #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @JonPriceWrites Yep. Tons. I got them all together and weighed them. :) I'm going to say @least 25 that I can think of now. #MGlitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
rachelgrinti Hah! RT @themediabunny @rachelgrinti I just have to say that topic? Sounds like a kid's version of The View! LOL #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill Only if you think that way. But there are things that appeal and apply to the different sexes. #mglitchat -10:10 PM Aug 18th, 2011
LaurelSnyder @KateMilford Oh, absolutely!!! But then why are we talking about marketing as a part of the writing process? #mglitchat -10:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
kellybarnhill @john_zeleznik Except by naming it, we *do*. And even our naming is imprecise. We can't even define it - not even here. #mglitchat -10:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
marygthompson @susanjsteward We should do it as an experiment and see what happens. Bring on the oddball mixed "boy" and "girl" covers! #mglitchat -10:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
themediabunny @kellybarnhill YES while assuming that "boy" and "girl" are static categories. Never the twain shall meet. #mglitchat -10:11 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer RT @LaurelSnyder: These kids are screwed when they get older. "I don't want to read Steinbeck. It's for boys!" #mglitchat -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
JoWhittemore YES. THIS--->“@KristineAsselin: Books that tried to appeal to EVERYONE wouldn't appeal to anyone. IMO. #mglitchat” -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
smozer RT @AnshaKotyk: *giggle*RT @story_queen: I know that I was drawn to Harry Potter because I was once a young wizard. #mglitchat -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
librarykelly @john_zeleznik It's not CAN'T recognize. It's shouldn't have to. #MGlitchat -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
john_zeleznik @kellybarnhill The divisions exist whether you reject them or not. And it is part of reading. #mglitchat -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
tcanny But there are things that appeal and apply to the different sexes. #mglitchat // agreed -10:12 PM Aug 18th, 2011
Just for the record, I love it when Wilbur squeals.
ReplyDeleteHa! Glad to know we've finally settled on an appropriate use of the squeal in MG literature. ;)
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