Thursday, February 28, 2013

February 28th - Narrative Tense in Middle Grade Fiction



rachelnseigel @helainebecker R u joining #Mglitchat 2nite? Starts...now actually! -9:00 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf Mission Accomplished, then. *marches off, trumpets blaring* #mglitchat -9:00 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel #Mglitchat it's 9pm and time for another chat! Tonight we discuss choosing a narrative tense. -9:00 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @matt_janacone We are ON! How you be? #mglitchat -9:00 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf U can't go yet! Chat is just starting! #mglitchat -9:00 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf *turns around* Rats. I knew I was marching in the wrong direction. #JackSparrow'sCompass #mglitchat -9:01 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf First question, how do you know when you've written a book in the wrong tense? #MGLitChat -9:02 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I read an article today that said YA readers prefer 1st person, and often present tense, whereas MG prefers 3rd person. -9:02 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Is that possible? #MGLitChat -9:02 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone @ilanawaters what's the topic tonight #mglitchat? -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @rachelnseigel really? #MGLitChat -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf Good question. And do you choose the tense, or does the tense choose you? #thetensionmounts #mglitchat -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf #mglitchat what's the topic? It looks like "terrible jokes in MG." LOVE. -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @matt_janacone We are discussing TENSES. Should be tense. ;-) #mglitchat -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf Maybe your character chooses the tense #thetensionmounts #mglitchat -9:03 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf Choosing narrative tenses- and terrible jokes. ;-) #mglitchat -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf If only. *pfff* Honey, I would OWN that #mglitchat. -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf That's what I think. I mean, I hear the narration a certain way in my head. Then I writes it #mglitchat -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @rachelnseigel You can probably find an equal number of articles which say the exact opposite. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf I mean, which tense we end up with has to be because of something better than "it feels right." #MGLitChat -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat fightya for it -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I was trying 2 think of MG novels that r 2nd person present tense, but other than Choose Your Own Adventure, I can't think of 1 -9:04 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I don't think novels always have to be told in past tense. Scripts are written in the present. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @coachhays64 That might b true, though MG does seem to more often be told in 3rd person. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


jodyfeldman For me, it's how I hear the character's voice. Which always sounds a little loony as in "I hear fake people." #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf *puts on boxing gloves* This could get inTENSE. #amIwinning? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf (Future topic: Comedy in MG) #MGLitChat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @coachhays64 Or was until recently- trend now is diary format a-la-Wimpy Kid. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf I bow to the masters! #amIwinning #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


KDuBayGillis @AniProf I think one scenario that drives tense choice: whether story has life or death stakes for MC. If past, we know MC lived. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel It's almost impossible to write fiction in the 2nd person ("you"). #mglitchat -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @AniProf We graciously doff off caps to the hostess. *doffs* #mglitchat -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @AniProf The immediacy of present tense is what the YA article talked about. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler Did you ever read Charles Benoit's YOU? It's 2nd person and I thought it was awesome. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @AniProf Present tense gives more of a feeling of immediacy. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @coachhays64 #mglitchat 3rd p seems most pop. My most recent mg attempt is 1st p but goes back and forth btwn it and "docs" -9:06 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone Does it really matter if a story i written in the prsent tense? #mglitchat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @rachelnseigel But this was a YA article, true? Biased? Perhaps? #MGLitChat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @AniProf 1st person past tense does take away some suspense. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone The cover copy to novels are written in the present tense. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #amIwinning #mglitchat what do you call 2 banana peels? -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Wasn't really a YA article- was a comparison of YA and MG, but maybe slanted towards YA. #MGLitChat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf Dare I ask? #amIwinning #mglitchat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


JoWhittemore For me, choosing a tense is about the tone of the story. For lighter, I prefer past. For edgier, present. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Oh Lord. What do you call them? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel I haven't! I'll have to look at it. Is it children's? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ixtumea #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler Def YA, but it's quite the ride! #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone As a screenwriter, I'm use to writing in the present tense. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @matt_janacone I say go with your gut. Let your characters tell the story the way they want. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @AniProf #mglitchat I dislike most present tense. It feels foced and manipulative to me. #justsayin -9:08 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @ilanawaters A pair of slippers. #MGLitChat -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat a pair of slippers!!!! Hahahahahahahaaaaaa!!!! -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @KDuBayGillis @AniProf I'm not a huge fan, but most YA dystopia is written that way. Supposedly #mglitchat #justsayin -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @KDuBayGillis @AniProf creates a sense of immediacy. #mglitchat #justsayin -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel All I can think of is Bright Lights Big City, but Wpedia says Camus, Faulkner, Duras others have written in 2nd. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf WOW! That's a hard one to top. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I just don't think it really matters which tense is used. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf I don't know, third person, past tense, sounds so ... so ... outdated? #MGLitChat -9:09 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @JoWhittemore Do you think pacing carries any weight? High action easier in present? #mglitchat -9:10 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf *headdesk* That was horrible, and yet awesome. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler Faulkner is a whole other animal! #mglitchat -9:10 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat my specialty. *flourishes cape, twiddles 'stash* -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @ilanawaters: @matt_janacone I wrote 1st chapters of WIP in 1st person present, had to change to 3rd past. Didn't work otherwise! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel I can. How do you stop a skunk from smelling? @helainebecker @AniProf may NOT answer. ;-) #mglitchat -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone Is it just natural for stories to be told in the past tense? #mglitchat -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel Well, yes. But I didn't know there was so much! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel #Mglitchat do you think you have to stick to one tense, or can you alternate tenses? -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @AniProf #mglitchat yes. -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @dianezahler @matt_janacone Interesting. There's always the play-it-by-ear approach. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler me neither! Bright Lights Big City is most commonly mentioned. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf How? #mglitchat -9:12 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Answer: you hold its nose! *cackles with glee* #mglitchat -9:12 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf I "think" the trick to 3rd person, past tense, is to make the reader feel like he/she is experiencing the past events first hand. #MGLitChat -9:12 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @ilanawaters @matt_janacone I think that's what I was doing. Just did not sound right. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf Not bad at all but I think @helainebecker has the edge. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ca_london @rachelnseigel:there are no rules if you can make it work but I can't conceive of how that would work #Mglitchat -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @KDuBayGillis @AniProf #mglitchat read 1 where character dies And we find out narrator is a ghost -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I agree that 1st + 2nd person do make the differences in stories but not really tenses. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ca_london One of the SILVER BIRCH books does this. I think it's messy personally, but he did it. #Mglitchat -9:13 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Brilliant! RT @helainebecker: @KDuBayGillis @AniProf #mglitchat read 1 where character dies And we find out narrator is a ghost #MGLitChat -9:14 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ca_london Maybe if u are alternating voices? #Mglitchat -9:14 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @dianezahler @ilanawaters @matt_janacone #mglitchat I've done that too, but switched from 3rd to 1st! -9:14 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel I know it's been done (can't think of any tho). But there has to be a good reason, no? Like, 2 narrators? #mglitchat -9:14 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler That's the only reason I can conceive. I don't care for it. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone Maybe present tense gives a story a more lively, dramatic tone. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @rachelnseigel If you're real careful and draw definite boundaries so as not to confuse a mg reader, I think it can be done. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @dianezahler @AniProf Present tense is limiting and the immediacy can feel more like a trick of tense than organic to the story. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat stuff bananas up its nose? -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf @helainebecker Darn her supernatural joking powers! *strokes broomstick* I'll get you, my pretty...#mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @helainebecker @ilanawaters @matt_janacone #mglitchat I've always written in 1st. Wanted something different. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat that joke STINKS! Love it :y -9:15 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf Wait, @helainebecker's stuffing nanners up her nose and SHE has the edge? Surely not INTELLECTUALLY? #mglitchat -9:16 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @RosanneParry @AniProf I agree. Takes real skill and purpose to pull it off. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @dianezahler @AniProf OTOH What Jamie Saw- Carolyn Coman is a great ex. of a book w/ strong voice & narrative tension in 3rd past #mglitchat -9:16 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf @helainebecker Well, I did type that before she started stuffing things up her nose! ;-) #mglitchat -9:16 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf First person, past tense, might reflect an unreliable narrator. #MGLitChat -9:16 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I think you have to know how to use the word 'had' when writing in the past tense. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf @helainebecker *shakes head* Just call me when the paramedics arrive with the pliers. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @RosanneParry @AniProf Adding to my TBR list! #mglitchat -9:17 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @AniProf Probably. Am reading thru #mglitchat now, like a good little girl. -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @AniProf That's part of what's fun about writing in that pov. Plus it easier to get into the character's head. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker Do you want an in your face narrator or an invisible 1? Intrusion of authorial voice can be a concern #mglitchat -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler @AniProf It is kind of freeing being able to speak through your character. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Has anyone ever written a first person, present tense, with multiple points of view? #MGLitChat -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf But what about LIAR AND SPY? Narrator was first person AND unreliable. Also the immortal Snicket. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker I enjoy narrative intervention on occasion. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone Subject/verb agreement is trickier/hader wwriting in the past tense. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @helainebecker Authorial voice shouldn't be an issue if the narrator is 1st person -- should be the character's voice. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker Heck no, woman! I LOVE authors who break down that fourth wall. Again...Snicket. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker What did Humpty Dumpty say to All the Kings Men? #mglitchat -9:20 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker Hostess, Helaine's distracting me again! *whines* Okay, what did he say? #mglitchat -9:20 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf #mglitchat I adore unreliable narrators. Can't imagine why. Great adult example We have to talk about kevin -9:21 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker Geeze! Do I have to put u 2 in the corner? #mglitchat -9:21 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @dianezahler @AniProf I think 1st person present is at its best w/ a really compelling narrative voice. Not impossible but hard. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf I admit I did not see that. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters #mglitchat nothing! -9:21 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @RosanneParry:@AniProf All I know is I can't do 1st person present. Not yet anyway. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters U ought 2 pitch a joke book 2 your friends @scholasticCDA #mglitchat -9:22 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker Oy! That joke was NOT all it's cracked up to be! #mglitchat -9:22 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @AniProf I think unreliable narration can be done in any tense or person. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @dianezahler @RosanneParry @AniProf I don't think I could do present tense. Have always written in 3rd person but should try 1st. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters #mglitchat party in the corner! Woot! -9:23 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I don't think I've ever written a novel in the present tense. I always thought you weren't supposed to. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Feb 28th, 2013


KateMessner Great explanation of narrative points of view, why writers may choose 1 over another via @LindaUrbanBooks http://t.co/SZhq7Nn9Kv #MGLitChat -9:23 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler @rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @AniProf For me 1st is easier, but maybe it's what you're used to doing. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters Is there cake? #mglitchat -9:24 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @scholasticCDA #mglitchat drinki-- er, meeting w ed tomorrow. Will suggest after her 3rd chocolatini *signhere* -9:24 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel *throws confetti, blows on noise makers. Drinks all the rum* #mglitchat -9:24 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters #mglitchat it didn't break you up? -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @scholasticCDA Lots of ideas look good after a few chocolatinis! #mglitchat -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


mjtlbarrie @rachelnseigel #mglitchat funny just had a student say she prefers 1st person perspective 2me 2day -can they relate easier ? -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker It wasn't eggaxctly what I was expecting. ;-P #mglitchat -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I agree. Let a story write itself anyway it wants to. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters Word to the herd! RT @matt_janacone: I agree. Let a story write itself anyway it wants to. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler Not for kids -- they couldn't discern an unreliable 3rd person narrator from the author. @RosanneParry: @AniProf I #mglitchat -9:25 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters #mglitchat of course. Bth way have you read Betty Bunny Loves Chocolate Cake? "I love choco cake so much... -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf First person can be like a goid friend telling you what happened to them. #MGLitChat -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters #mglitchat "I want to marry it!" #yesyesyes -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @mjtlbarrie It could b because it adds a sense of intimacy- like narrator is talking to you? #mglitchat -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel I have not. But w/a subject like that, how can one go wrong? *nom nom* #mglitchat -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters I adore Betty Bunny! #mglitchat -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters Betty Bunny loves Chocolate Cake is a bit like Bread and jam for Frances . #mglitchat -9:26 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @jodyfeldman Ha! #mglitchat -9:27 PM Feb 28th, 2013


dianezahler Unreliable 1st person is hard enough for kids! @RosanneParry @AniProf #mglitchat -9:27 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf exactly what I was just saying to @mjtlbarrie #MGLitChat -9:27 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @mjtlbarrie @rachelnseigel #mglitchat 1st person also has easy to read kid vocab. Not a lot of flowery descriptive passages. -9:28 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @rachelnseigel Great minds think alike! #MGLitChat -9:28 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @mjtlbarrie Do u read Polly horvath at all? She writes her characters in 1st person, but sophisticated vocab. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Absolutely! #MGLitChat -9:28 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I honestly don't think I'll ever write in the past tense again. #mglitchat I'm too much of a screenwriter. -9:29 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @dianezahler #mglitchat yes. Exactly.so choice of tense must fit choice of style -9:29 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf First person, past, can be soph vocab. Depends on present age of narrator. #MGLitChat -9:29 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Narrator is 12, and uses words like Heretofore. #MGLitChat -9:30 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf I've been trying to decide if I buy that she would speak like that. #MGLitChat -9:30 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @KateMessner Thanks Kate! Ursula LeGuin has a great chapter on POV and narrative distance in her book Steering the Craft. #mglitchat -9:31 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters #mglitchat what were u planning to do with the pliers? Just...wondering. #texasPliersMassacre -9:31 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Could you have an adult, first person, past tense narrator in MG? #MGLitChat -9:31 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @mjtlbarrie @rachelnseigel #mglitchat hi Melissa! -9:31 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @RosanneParry Steering the Craft now goes on TBR list. Thanks! #MGLitChat -9:32 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters #mglitchat but with CAKE. -9:32 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker Me? I wasn't planning anything. The paramedics need them to extract the fruit up your nose. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters I like cake! And cookies! #mglitchat -9:32 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @mjtlbarrie @rachelnseigel Depends on how it's crafted. Pick the POV that allows the reader to drop & stay in the action easiest. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker This has to be the hungriest, jokiest #mglitchat I have ever attended. -9:33 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker We aim to please! ;-) #mglitchat -9:33 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker But it is making me hungry for a snack. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Feb 28th, 2013


KateMessner Interesting point of view challenge writing my Fall '13 thriller WAKE UP MISSING - MC has a concussion that affects her thinking. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @AniProf My admiration for Ursula is boundless, and I've found Steering the Craft quite helpful over the years. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @rachelnseigel @dianezahler @BenoitTheWriter @LucyCAuthor Loved You & Stolen's amazing. You feel MC's emotions completely. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel #mglitchat what do you call a kid whose legs were just chomped off by a shark? -9:35 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters Um....I have no idea! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @RosanneParry I love her novels, shorts and poetry. #MGLitChat -9:35 PM Feb 28th, 2013


writerMattKirby @KateMessner But you definitely rose to the challenge! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker Speaking of which, I have to go. *sobs* It's been a fun half-#mglitchat, but I have research to do. #bor-ring -9:35 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters #mglitchat Bob. -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel Obligatory EWWWWW!! #mglitchat -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker I second that! #mglitchat -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @ilanawaters Ta ta! #MGLitChat -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel Wait, is that b/c it's his name, or he "bobs" like a legless flotation device? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker NO! Don't go! Your research can wait a half hour. 25 minutes actually. #mglitchat #bor -9:36 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @KateMessner That is tricky. I remember a book that explored this idea at length-Music of Dolphins? Maybe. I'll have to check. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel #mglitchat :D -9:37 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf Bye! So sorry to go. But have fun, y'all. This was inTENSE! #mglitchat -9:37 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @ilanawaters Argh! #MGLitChat -9:37 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker Sigh. It's so hard to be popular. Okay, okay, I'll stay. But I'll be in and out. #mglitchat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker *Claps hands happily* #mglitchat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Must be something in the air, tonight, like laughing gas. #MGLitChat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker I wasn't really contributing anything except booger jokes anyway. #myspecialty #mglitchat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @ilanawaters Yeah! #MGLitChat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Maybe 2nite should have been about "punny" middle grade! #MGLitChat -9:38 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf It's the burning ball of humor that is @helainebecker. #nojoke #mglitchat -9:39 PM Feb 28th, 2013


meganbfrazer @rachelnseigel I tend to write my books that way -- YA in 1st person, MG in third. I wonder if there's something developmental? #mglitchat -9:39 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel #mglitchat yes. And yes. *sighs* -9:39 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker Hey- So did Captain Underpants, and he's a smashing success! #myspecialty #mglitchat -9:39 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @KateMessner A challenge to fill the holes in thought lost by head injury is interesting problem. Did you tiptoe around holes? #mglitchat -9:39 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf Oooo--can we do future #mglitchat on puns? Like James Howe n'stuff? Finally, a chance 2 hand @helainebecker her A$$! -9:40 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @KateMessner That's really interesting! And an interesting aspect of 1st person in general #mglitchat -9:40 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @KateMessner You'll never really know how reliable the 1st person narrator is- they r telling the story as they wish #mglitchat -9:40 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker There's a thought. To be commercial, dirty your drawers. *considers* #mglitchat -9:41 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel #mglitchat Besides if u go we will talk about u behind ur back *immature* -9:41 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf @helainebecker I will write that down for a chat in May. March & April r planned out! #mglitchat -9:41 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @rachelnseigel But that's part of the fun, yes? #MGLitChat -9:41 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone Has any of you written a novel in the present tense? #mglitchat -9:41 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel Then I will come back and spitball you. *phfoot* #spitwadsofDEATH #mglitchat -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @AniProf Oh yes- it's a charming and fun story, and a gr8 character. Just trying 2 imagine reading it as an aver 10-11 year old. #MGLitChat -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf #nojoke #mglitchat Gas-powered. *beans4dinner* -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf @helainebecker Whoa--you are ORGANIZED. #mglitchat -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @matt_janacone I've written shorts in present tense but not a novel. #MGLitChat -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @rachelnseigel @dianezahler I would back track to read all the possibilities. Don't remember specific stories anymore tho #mglitchat -9:42 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @meganbfrazer @rachelnseigel #mglitchat interesting. Lie down on our communal couch vile ve analyze u. -9:43 PM Feb 28th, 2013


EJWesley @Adrianne_James @ashposton @KatGirl_Studio @AuthorLanc We actually scheduled this chat to not compete. Missed #MGLitchat though #NALitChat -9:43 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @meganbfrazer Ooh- now this is interesting! #mglitchat -9:43 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf *holds nose* *barfs* *watches @helainebecker soar out of sight* Who was that masked tooter? #mglitchat -9:43 PM Feb 28th, 2013


meganbfrazer @matt_janacone YA yes, but not MG. #mglitchat -9:43 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf @matt_janacone Ah, but have you ever written a present tense novel in your SHORTS? #therealquestion #mglitchat -9:44 PM Feb 28th, 2013


RosanneParry @matt_janacone Yes. Heart of a Shepherd was in present tense. It was hard. #mglitchat -9:44 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Why do I feel like I'm chatting with a bunch of toddlers, tonight? #MGLitChat -9:44 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf @helainebecker Us hostesses r gr8 planners! ;-) At your suggestion, I have noted puns & wordplay. #mglitchat -9:44 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf @ilanawaters #headbang #MGLitChat -9:45 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Surely you jest. You must have heard of the great Howe. THE BROCCOLLI STALKS AT MIDNIGHT? #mglitchat -9:45 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone @ilanawaters @AniProf Cargo shorts, yes! #mglitchat -9:45 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf CELERY. #mglitchat -9:45 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf And I think I misspelled "broccolli," but it doesn't count b/c I don't like it. #mglitchat -9:46 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf I was 10 years old when I read BUNNICULA. Still remember it vividly. #mglitchat -9:46 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat Rachel has a REAL job -9:46 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @AniProf No, I haven't. But I love that routine by A&B. #mglitchat -9:47 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @AniProf @matt_janacone #MGLitChat but did you write preset tense in shorts? #cpnUnderpants -9:47 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf I have lots of imaginary jobs 2- but they don't pay real money. ;-) #mglitchat -9:47 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @matt_janacone @AniProf Oh Lord! I haz visual. *covers eyes* #mglitchat -9:47 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @AniProf Whoa. I really messed it up then. Probably b/c I don't like celery either. #onlyw/peanbutt #mglitchat -9:48 PM Feb 28th, 2013


coachhays64 @AniProf @matt_janacone Yes, short stories are manageable in present tense. Novel length would be a challenge. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Really? She looks all shiny to me now. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf #onlyw #mglitchat Both are vegetables that work 4 the pun. -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker Write it. I just gave you the next bestseller. *examines fingernails* You're welcome. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


lostingreatbook @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf I am AWESOME at my imaginary jobs. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf So do I! My parents played it 4 my brother and I when we were kids. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @AniProf #mglitchat er... No #CanYouDanceToIt? -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Actually, shorts in present tense tends to make the language pop, IMHO. #MGLitChat -9:49 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone I know writing in the 1st person in scripts isn't advised. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @lostingreatbook @rachelnseigel @helainebecker @AniProf And I totally save the universe as an Avenger. *fist bump* #mglitchat -9:50 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone You gotta love @ilanawaters #mglitchat -9:50 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Ha-ha! Seriously tho, you HAVE to read Howe's books. They're right up UR a$$--er, alley. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @lostingreatbook @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf If only they could pay the bills! #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @AniProf I would say always reflects, at least to some degree. Not necessary liars, but from their perspective, which is faulty. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @helainebecker @AniProf Giggle! #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @matt_janacone Daaawww. *blushes* Right back atcha. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf #mglitchat oh! Bunnicula! Of course. Just didn't recognize author's name #HowIsThisPossible? -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @matt_janacone Ha! Or you quickly learn. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf The horror! And you have boys! #mglitchat #HowIsThisPossible -9:51 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf Groan! #mglitchat -9:52 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf #mglitchat I put Who's on First in Emperor Strikes Out. Roman slave named Yehuda is the first baseman -9:53 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf Loved that book. Didn't see the end coming at all. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Feb 28th, 2013


matt_janacone @YABookShelf It's just tricky. Knowing when to use 'had' isn't always automatic for me. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Feb 28th, 2013


AniProf Okay, I've had enough for tonight. See y'all next week! #MGLitChat -9:53 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @AniProf It was the booger jokes, wasn't it? #mglitchat -9:53 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel #Mglitchat we have a few minutes left for last comments about tense, and then this chat becomes a thing of the past! -9:54 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @helainebecker @ilanawaters @AniProf That's funny! #mglitchat -9:54 PM Feb 28th, 2013


JoWhittemore @coachhays64 Hmm. Well, action "in the moment" is gritty, but it can still be achieved past tense. Look at a lot of high fantasy #mglitchat -9:54 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @coachhays64 Either tense can drive action. #mglitchat -9:55 PM Feb 28th, 2013


YABookShelf @RosanneParry @dianezahler @AniProf I mostly read YA, so I've become accustomed to 1st present. 3rd past = distancing #mglitchat -9:56 PM Feb 28th, 2013


KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel Are you going to mention the future? #mglitchat #tipsfromthepros -9:56 PM Feb 28th, 2013


JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel @coachhays64 Exactly. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Feb 28th, 2013


helainebecker @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @AniProf #mglitchat I thought so! :) but I'm kinda a jerk -9:56 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis good idea! Next week we start our 2nd annual tips from the pros month, and we've got lots of #mglitchat #tipsfromthepros -9:57 PM Feb 28th, 2013


rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Awesomeness coming up! Then in April...well that's a chat for another day. #mglitchat #tipsfromthepros -9:57 PM Feb 28th, 2013


ilanawaters @helainebecker @rachelnseigel @AniProf No way. You're full of awesome. You're the reason humor and twitter were invented. *hugs* #mglitchat -9:57 PM Feb 28th, 2013

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