rachelnseigel Time for #Mglitchat. Tonight's topic: Mashups!
-7:02 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters Read another chapter of Stanley
last night. So much fun! #mglitchat -7:03 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto RT @rachelnseigel: Time for #Mglitchat.
Tonights topic: Mashups! #mglitchat -7:03 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana Does anyone know when the term 'mashup' was
coined in relation to books? I always this of potatoes when I see it.
#mglitchat -7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel So have any of you tried writing a mashup?
#Mglitchat -7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel How apropo for our topic tonite!
#mglitchat And thanks for your "Stanley" compliments. *blush* -7:04
PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Hi! What do we mean by mashups? And can we take
a moment to cheer for a MG NYT list? <cheers> #mglitchat -7:04 PM Dec
6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana I think the first time I heard it
was with PRIDE AND PREJUDICE AND ZOMBIES #mglitchat -7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor Howdy! Question on the topic: mashups we like
reading, like writing, or would like to see? #mglitchat -7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz ACK! I'm late for the chat! I'm here now, though.
#sorryfolks #MGlitchat -7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @RickNovy *Keanu Reeves voice* Whoa! #mglitchat
-7:04 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder I'm thinking of books that
combine pre-exisitng stories with something new. #mglitchat -7:05 PM Dec 6th,
2012
maggiedana RT @rachelnseigel: first time I heard it was with
PRIDE AND PREJUDICE AND ZOMBIES // so it's quite recent, then? #mglitchat -7:05
PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @elissacruz Three minutes is late? :p #mglitchat
-7:05 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @elissacruz *waves hi* #sorryfolks #MGlitchat
-7:05 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @rachelnseigel I'm writing a space western. But
it's YA. Think Firefly + hormones. #mglitchat -7:05 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder I guess I don't know much about this trend, but
want to ask: have people done it in a way that goes beyond spoof and into art?
#mglitchat -7:05 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto Here, here! MT @LaurelSnyder And can we take
a moment to cheer for a MG NYT list? <cheers> #mglitchat -7:05 PM Dec
6th, 2012
Bec_AS Sliding in, pretending I was here from the start...
#MGLitChat -7:05 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @SympleSymon It is when you're supposed to be
hosting the chat. #oops #MGlitchat -7:06 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @MLConklin That sounds pretty cool. #mglitchat
-7:06 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor I usually think of mashups in the comic book
universe. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @elissacruz Aahhh... I'm sure no one noticed.
#mglitchat -7:06 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor There seems to have been a lot
of discussion in recent years about the line between mash-up and plagiarism.
#mglitchat -7:06 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @rachelnseigel *waves back* #MGlitchat -7:07 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS Mash-ups? Isn't that where you take several slow
songs and mix them with a dance beat? #MGLitChat -7:07 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat I have a middle-grade mashup that
is Robin Hood and Zombies, and -7:07 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon So, taking a break from #writing #EF2 to join
#mglitchat - what's the topic? -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @LaurelSnyder I haven't seen anything beyond
spoof or cleverness, myself. Though I've quite enjoyed reading a handful
#mglitchat -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @MLConklin Ooo--goodie! Shall I send to you?
*jumps up and down* #mglitchat -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @Bec_AS niiiice. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS In music, yes. Books you take a story
like Robin Hood, add zombies, and you have a mash-up. #MGLitChat -7:08 PM Dec
6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS I think that's a techno mix, but sounds
about the same :) #mglitchat -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
PippaBayliss Hi mglit-chatters! Mashups - is that like the
Monster Mash? #mglitchat -7:08 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @ilanawaters yeeeeeeesssss. #mglitchat -7:09 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat we can expand mash-up to the
incorporation of multiple stories/legends- like Grace Lin does in Where the
Mountain Meets the Moon. -7:09 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto I once came across a book called "Jack
and Jill Went Up To Kill: A Book of Zombie Nursery Rhymes" #mglitchat -7:09
PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS My bad. I meant "reminx"
#mglitchat -7:09 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @rachelnseigel Would Breadcrumbs fall under
that? #mglitchat -7:09 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto That appeal to my sense of
humour. #mglitchat -7:09 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @SympleSymon @elissacruz *taps watch, foot,
glares* Your pay WILL be deducted. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor So does that mean all the mashups include
zombies? #mglitchat -7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Yes- it could. I was thinking
of John Boyne's Noah Barleywater too- which incorporates Pinocchio #mglitchat
-7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS So, what I'm getting here is mash-up is code for zombies?
#MGLitChat -7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor Not necessarily, but adding
zombies seems to be a popular mechanism. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS Crap I can't type tonight!
"Remix!" #mglitchat -7:10 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @CDaleyAuthor No, no...only the best ones ;)
#mglitchat -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @MLConklin Yay! Thank you so moishe. You'll
see--this will take you no time at all. And it will be FUN! #mglitchat -7:11 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @CDaleyAuthor Jinx #MGLitChat -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder I think of a mashup as being a silly spoof that
blends two existing books. I like the idea of broadening conversation.
#mglitchat -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I think what I was thinking about
when I said Maship is a book that incorporates another well-known story. -7:11
PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @ilanawaters Yes, it should be. Fortunately, zero
dollars minus any amount is still zero dollars. I don't work in the negative.
#MGlitchat -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @michaelascotto @rachelnseigel Oooh, good one,
Michael. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @michaelascotto @LaurelSnyder *cheers* :-D
#mglitchat That really is super-cool. -7:11 PM Dec 6th, 2012
jjhoutman Sending regrets to #mglitchat. Must get pages
ready for new critique group. Have fun without me. I'll catch the transcript
tomorrow. -7:12 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @michaelascotto Oh, sure. I like silly and
spoofs and so on. But it's a specific thing! #mglitchat -7:12 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana How do you avoid plagiarism in mashups? Ok for
books in pub. domain, but could you do Twilight meets Little Women? #mglitchat
-7:12 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor Not a book, but I think the Shrek movies mash
things up pretty well. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @elissacruz You're too much of a positive
thinker. *tsk* U know, U could be more dark and negative if you just APPLIED
yourself. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS lol! #mglitchat -7:13 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor Shreck does do it very well.
#mglitchat -7:13 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @Bec_AS I tried reading a book called
"Robin Hood and the Undead Plague", soooo, yeah. Basically.
#MGlitchat -7:13 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana You could brand it that way as
long as you don't directly copy. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @SympleSymon Yes- that was the one I was
thinking of! There's another in that series too. #MGlitchat -7:13 PM Dec 6th,
2012
LaurelSnyder @maggiedana Well, I think when you spoof you
POINT DIRECTLY TO the references. Plagiarism is sneaky. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Dec
6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder But it's possible to pay tribute to something,
to nod to it-- without plagiarizing. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @maggiedana Apparently you can do Twilight means XXX,
so why not Little Women, too? #MGLitChat -7:14 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Yes! Like Wildwood does with
Narnia. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @ilanawaters That's me. The eternal optimist. :)
Who needs negativity when being positive all the time is SO MUCH WORK.
#MGlitchat -7:15 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor I think it'd be fun to have mythology vs.
mythology. Like the Norse gods v. the Greek gods, etc. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Dec
6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @michaelascotto @LaurelSnyder Yes! *and the
crowd goes wild...* #mglitchat -7:15 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin #mglitchat is the best writing chat around, IMO.
Happening now. Topic: mashups! -7:15 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @CDaleyAuthor I've seen that pitch! #mglitchat
-7:16 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin RT @michaelascotto: I once came across a book
called "Jack and Jill Went Up To Kill: A Book of Zombie Nursery
Rhymes" #mglitchat -7:17 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @michaelascotto Did you read it? #mglitchat -7:17
PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters Listen to her, she speaks the truth--->RT
@MLConklin: #mglitchat is the best writing chat around, IMO. Happening now.
Topic: mashups! -7:17 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto So is what we're thinking of as a
"mashup" simply a recontextualization of existing characters/myths?
#mglitchat -7:17 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @MLConklin Cool. I hope whoever pitched it gets
picked up. Can you imagine the fight scenes? It would be epic. #mglitchat -7:17
PM Dec 6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @LaurelSnyder @maggiedana Yes--this.
#mglitchat -7:17 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat Question: If you take pre-exisiting
content and create something new from it, is it now an original work? -7:17 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
DyadicEchoes RT @ilanawaters: Listen to her, she speaks the
truth--->RT @MLConklin: #mglitchat is the best writing chat around, IMO.
Happening now. Topic: mashups! -7:17 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @MLConklin How about "Jack and Jill had a
License to Kill?" #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @elissacruz I'm exhausted from smiling alone.
*collapses* #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel Or like Eager with with Edith
Nesbit. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @michaelascotto Michael wins for biggest word this
evening. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat again- not a book per se, but I
love how Once Upon a Time mashes up different stories. -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @MLConklin A handful; I was at a signing
& sharing a table with the author's books (Author never made it. Eaten,
probably ;) #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel I think all books do this in one
way or another. I don't anyone creates entirely new content. #mglitchat -7:18
PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Or how your Any Which Wall was a
nod to Eager and Nesbit! ;-) #mglitchat -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
brooksbenjamin #mglitchat Ooh! I didn't know this existed!
Hello fellow MGers! -7:18 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @brooksbenjamin Welcome! :-) #mglitchat -7:19
PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @MLConklin Haha...take that, Twitter!
#mglitchat -7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @CDaleyAuthor I think I read first pages at
#WriteOnCon #mglitchat -7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS We should brainstorm good mash-ups for writing promps
#MGLitChat -7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder I agree- one could argue every
story is a mash-up. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel That was the goal. But all my
books feel like that in one way or another, usually not so obvious. #mglitchat
-7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @ilanawaters @MLConklin Aw, you two are awesome,
too. #spreadingtheMGlove #thanks #MGlitchat -7:19 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS That would be awesome! I would have
loved to have a writing assignment like that in school. #MGLitChat -7:19 PM Dec
6th, 2012
MLConklin RT @Bec_AS: We should brainstorm good mash-ups for
writing promps #MGLitChat -7:20 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon It's not MG, but I hear there's a short story
called "A Study in Emerald". Sherlock meets Cthulhu! XDD #MGlitchat
-7:20 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Only obvious if one is familiar
with the books you are nodding to. #mglitchat -7:20 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder I think of ALL THE BOOKS EVER WRITTEN as a community.
The books we write are in conversation with all those other books. #mglitchat
-7:20 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @rachelnseigel @Laurel Snyder So maybe it has
to do with degree? Taking elements wholesale? #mglitchat -7:20 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @Bec_AS Paranormal + Military. Sports + Fairy
tales. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
VonMalcolm RT @ilanawaters: Listen to her, she speaks the
truth--->RT @MLConklin: #mglitchat is the best writing chat around, IMO.
Happening now. Topic: mashups! -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel I think to be a mashup it has to
be a blending of two or more defined things? "Little Women meets Willy
Wonka." #mglitchat -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
brooksbenjamin @Bec_AS I can't help but hear *oots oots oots
oots* in my head right now. #mglitchat #dancebeats -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler Wait, what? It was? Must read immediately!
@rachelnseigel: @LaurelSnyder #mglitchat -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @Bec_AS Yes! I've done w/my students..what
would happen if Little Red Riding Hood had met the Seven Dwarfs instead of the
wolf? #mglitchat -7:21 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS The sports & fairy tales combo is fresh!! RT
@MLConklin: @Bec_AS Paranormal + Military. Sports + Fairy tales. #MGLitChat
-7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ixtumea What do you mean by mashups? Confused. #mglitchat
-7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel Which is why you're unlikely to
find a deal for a "mashup" of two things nobody has ever heard of.
It's marketing. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @elissacruz @MLConklin We are but shadows of
your enormous, hulking awesome. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @LaurelSnyder It totally is! Now
when you read it you'll see it. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder I think mashups are a thing now, because people
buy what they know. "Zombies, I like zombies!" #mglitchat -7:22 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel I can see them all
now...licking the intricate Victorian wallpaper...#mglitchat #snozzberries
-7:22 PM Dec 6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder But this is the
challenge/fun for teachers, Rachel. :-) Books like this lead to other books...
#mglitchat -7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @LaurelSnyder I agree that mashing 2 stories
works. But taking genres that don't normally mix works 2 (cowboys in space)
#mglitchat -7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @LaurelSnyder I wonder if people expect zombies
to always be part of mashups. #mglitchat -7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder True. Of course, booksellers
create their own mashups too whether it's intended that way or not. #mglitchat
-7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel I could roll
with that as a definition #mglitchat -7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler 2 of my absolute favorite authors. I'm looking
it up right this minute.@rachelnseigel: @dianezahler @LaurelSnyder #mglitchat
-7:23 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @Bec_AS Quick! Somebody write it! #notintosports
#mglitchat -7:24 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @LaurelSnyder It always worked
on me! I tended to follow the chain! ;-) #mglitchat -7:24 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @dianezahler Wait, what are we looking
up?" #mglitchat -7:24 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana Silly question, but why are zombies so popular?
They look kinda messy, to me. Like mashed potatoes with ketchup. #mglitchat
-7:24 PM Dec 6th, 2012
brooksbenjamin @SympleSymon I found this old book and
deciphered the ancient writing and--Naw I just saw Melanie use the hash tag. :)
#mglitchat -7:24 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel Oh, sure. I just mean-- this is
why you don't often find mashups of obscure old books. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Dec
6th, 2012
MLConklin @ilanawaters @elissacruz Did you just call her the
Hulk? LANI BAD! MAKE HULK ANGRY! #mglitchat -7:25 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler @LaurelSnyder You! Any Which Wall. #mglitchat
-7:25 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @MLConklin It won't be me, either- my sports
knowledge is gleamed from watching my 6yo run around the soccer field
#MGLitChat -7:25 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @SympleSymon @LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel
Bwah-ha-ha--I TOTALLY forgot it was you I had that convo with! #mglitchat -7:25
PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @maggiedana Sounds like awesome YA. #mglitchat
-7:25 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Mashup! A lesser known treatise by Freud's
cousin, combined with a forgotten untitled Celtic myth. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Dec
6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @LaurelSnyder
Same here! Kids love when they "get" something others might gloss
over. :-) #mglitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder That's true. My unwritten MG
that's in my head is intended to be an MG version of a somewhat obscure
classic. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon I'm planning to write a dystopian YA where
aliens are completing their invasion by using zombies! #MGlitchat -7:26 PM Dec
6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @LaurelSnyder I still do. ;-)
#mglitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @MLConklin @elissacruz *trembles* No, no--hulk
of awesome. Of AWESOME. Please no hurt Lani! *cowers* #mglitchat -7:26 PM Dec
6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @maggiedana I think its a goth spinoff?
#mglitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MichaelMcGannon @symplesymon By Neil Gaiman. It's a good
short story. Lovely mix of Sherlock and Lovecraftian unease. :) #MGLitChat
-7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @MLConklin @ilanawaters I was thinking, "Did
she just call me fat?" ;) #MGlitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @SympleSymon Wow. Now that's trippy.
#MGlitchat -7:26 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana RT @LaurelSnyder: Mashup! A lesser known treatise
by Freuds cousin, combined w/forgotten untitled Celtic myth. // Brigadoon?
#mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @maggiedana I don't get it either. Don't we all
deal w/enough braindead people every day? #mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
PippaBayliss weird. I don't get why any kid would want to
read a mashup ... wot are their sales like? I get that some are funny - but
REALLY? #mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder My WIP is THe Secret Garden meets Hanging Out
with Cici. What mashup are YOU writing? #mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler @LaurelSnyder An epic steampunk poem by a blind
Greek guy. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @maggiedana LOL!!! I was trying to invent a
mashup you couldn't sell. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @PippaBayliss What kid wouldn't want to read about
Robin Hood in SPACE? #mglitchat -7:28 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @ilanawaters Good point! #mglitchat -7:28 PM Dec
6th, 2012
RosanneParry #mglitchat so how about some mash up examples.
I can only think of take offs- Heck Where Bad Kids Go based on Dante's inferno
for example. -7:28 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @dianezahler *waves sheepishly* I would
actually totally read that. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS I can't think of any mash-up ideas that would be
original- I think they have ALL been done already!!! #MGLitChat -7:28 PM Dec
6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS Every story ever written is simply a
new version of a story already told. Shakespeare borrowed from the bible!
#MGLitChat -7:29 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @elissacruz @ilanawaters pffffftttt! *open mouth,
insert foot* #mglitchat -7:29 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel I think you can totally do it!
But they won't sell it as a mashup. Like ANy WHich Wall, it'll just be a
reference. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @MLConklin I have a personal belief that the
fourth entry in any movie series should be in space. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Dec
6th, 2012
maggiedana @Bec_AS Dracula Rides Black Beauty? #mglitchat
-7:30 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @Bec_AS There are no new ideas. Just new
combinations of words. Rock the words! #mglitchat -7:30 PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder @michaelascotto I like this. Indiana Jones IN
SPACE. Sex in the City IN SPACE. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder good point. First I have to
actually re-read the classic. ;-) #mglitchat -7:30 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @MLConklin @elissacruz Anybody have a crowbar?
*attempts to pry out foot* #mglitchat -7:30 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @michaelascotto awesome. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Dec
6th, 2012
michaelascotto RT @LaurelSnyder: @michaelascotto I like this.
Indiana Jones IN SPACE. Sex in the City IN SPACE. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Dec 6th,
2012
CDaleyAuthor @RosanneParry and ruled by Phil, the prince of
insufficient light :) wait, no, Scott Adams might come after you for that...
#mglitchat -7:31 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @maggiedana Okay, you got me! :) #MGLitChat -7:31 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @elissacruz @MLConklin No, no, no! And how could
I tell anyway? You are just a twitter bio head to me! :-S #andsomuchmore
#mglitchat -7:31 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Rockets2Writing @LaurelSnyder mine is Sky High meets Ender's
Game #mglitchat -7:31 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler Well, Dracula is gothic novel + travel
narrative.RT @maggiedana: @Bec_AS Dracula Rides Black Beauty? #mglitchat -7:32
PM Dec 6th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Poet Bill Matthews has a great little essay
called Dull Subjects, about the only 4 things you can write about. It's great.
#mglitchat -7:32 PM Dec 6th, 2012
MLConklin @ilanawaters @elissacruz It's been fun watching.
Have to go read The Giver now. It's YADecember for me! #mglitchat -7:32 PM Dec
6th, 2012
maggiedana @Bec_AS Even better might be Dracula Rides My
Friend Flicka. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Dec 6th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Ditto. ;-)
#mglitchat -7:33 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @LaurelSnyder I'm literally working on
YA/goth/romantic poets/mythology mash-up *blushes* #mglitchat -7:33 PM Dec 6th,
2012
writesinLA RT @gregpincus: The NY Times will now have both
MG and YA bestseller lists, including ebook sales: http://t.co/JHkzR9hU
#mglitchat #yalitchat -7:34 PM Dec 6th, 2012
KristineAsselin mashups? really? My current MG is Tinkerbell
meets Artemis Fowl. #mglitchat -7:34 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @MLConklin @elissacruz We'll miss you! And if
you're reading "The Giver," bring tissues! #mglitchat -7:34 PM Dec
6th, 2012
Bec_AS I don't think that is an MG title!! [shocking!] RT
@maggiedana: Even better might be Dracula Rides My Friend Flicka. #MGLitChat
-7:34 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters Fifty Shades of Mark Twain? #ewww #mglitchat
-7:35 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto Adding Dracula to Where the Red Fern Grows
would certainly change the ending. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Or Zombies- the dogs could
come back as zombie dogs and eat the boy! #mglitchat -7:35 PM Dec 6th, 2012
KristineAsselin I do love all the classics..."with
vampires". Not MG I know, but fun. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Even Harry Potter is sort of a
mash-up. -7:37 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor A second big bang causes Narnia and Wonderland
to collide. Red Queen and White Witch have a throw down. #mglitchat -7:37 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KristineAsselin They are fun. And I think
kids enjoy the mash-ups too. or maybe just anything with zomebies or vampires
in it. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor My money's on the Red Queen!
She'd have the White Witch beheaded. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @ilanawaters Depending on how graphic you make
it, that may be a six figure deal right there ;P #mglitchat -7:38 PM Dec 6th,
2012
dianezahler HP is the definition of a mashup. There's
everything in there.RT @rachelnseigel: Even Harry Potter is sort of a mash-up.
#mglitchat -7:38 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana Got it! Zombies in Oz. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Dec
6th, 2012
ilanawaters @CDaleyAuthor *politely hurls into wastebasket*
#mglitchat -7:39 PM Dec 6th, 2012
PippaBayliss I spose the fact is that nothing is new under
the sun - including (and especially) plots :) #mglitchat -7:39 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat There are many more mash-ups than
we think- how often do we say there are "echoes" of another book in
what we are reading! -7:39 PM Dec 6th, 2012
KristineAsselin We're loving Once Upon a Time--mashing up
all the fairy tales in one big story. Queen of Hearts is Wicked Queen's mother.
#love #mglitchat -7:39 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @rachelnseigel Not if the White Witch froze her
first :) #mglitchat -7:40 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @WaldenPondPress @NYTimes @Deborahkops MG is
taking over the world!!!! ;-) #MIDDLEGRADE #mglitchat -7:40 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @ilanawaters *hands you paper towels*
#mglitchat -7:40 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor Hmm... This is shaping up to be
an epic battle! ;-) #mglitchat -7:40 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS Okay, so once we move past the zombies, what's the
next money-maker mash-up ingredient? #MGLitChat -7:40 PM Dec 6th, 2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel: @WaldenPondPress @NYTimes @Deborahkops
MG is taking over the world!!!! ;-) #MIDDLEGRADE #mglitchat How so? -7:41 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler 2 of my books mash up fairy tales with legends
and myth -- Norse & Irish.So I'm guilty too. Never thought of it that way!
#mglitchat -7:41 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @rachelnseigel ... middle grade, midgrade, mid
grade, middle-grade? I've seen it all ways. Which one is most popular/correct?
#mglitchat -7:42 PM Dec 6th, 2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat Even Harry Potter is sort
of a mash-up. Of what? -7:42 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @DsBSC Narnia, British Folklore &
Mythology, Nesbit, Eager, etc... #Mglitchat -7:43 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana I'd go with the hyphenated one.
#mglitchat -7:43 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler Every fantasy ever written + boarding school
story, no? RT @DsBSC: @rachelnseigel Even Harry Potter is sort of a mash-up.Of
what? #mglitchat -7:43 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @Bec_AS I plan to write the ULTIMATE kids
mash-up: Pirates vs Ninja vs Aliens! #mglitchat -7:44 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @DsBSC Yep. Someone once said
boarding school, orphans and magic are the key to creating an MG bestseller.
#mglitchat -7:44 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana RT @rachelnseigel: Id go with the hyphenated one.
// Thanks. I like that one, too. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana Or of course, you can go with MG
for short. ;-) #mglitchat -7:44 PM Dec 6th, 2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel: @DsBSC Narnia, British Folklore &
Mythology, Nesbit, Eager, etc... #Mglitchat Harrypotter? Sorry #dumbphone -7:45
PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @SympleSymon Right, because the vampires vs pirates
has been done! #MGLitChat -7:45 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana RT @rachelnseigel:you can go with MG for short.
;-) // One of my favorite sports cars. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Dec 6th, 2012
elissacruz @maggiedana If you ask me, it's middle-grade.
That's what we use on the From the Mixed-Up Files blog, anyway. #MGlitchat
-7:45 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @DsBSC Yes. All of that makes up Harry Potter.
:-) #Mglitchat #dumbphone -7:45 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS @SympleSymon and because anything with
ninjas is automatically cool. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @rachelnseigel I reckon JK Rowling grew up
reading Enid Blyton's boarding school stories. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Dec 6th,
2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana I wouldn't be surprised if she
did. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Dec 6th, 2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel: @dianezahler what if one has all but
orphans? #mglitchat Like @danyelleleafty 's #slippersofpearl ? -7:47 PM Dec
6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @maggiedana She even admits to
Iliadreferences. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty Two out of
three is ok! ;-) #mglitchat #slippersofpearl -7:48 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @rachelnseigel Erm ... Zombies at Mallory Towers
anyone? #mglitchat -7:48 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser Hi All! Late to #mglitchat but loving the
topic. I've been wracking my brain for a unique mash-up idea. -7:48 PM Dec 6th,
2012
rachelnseigel @amberjkeyser Glad you could join us! :-)
#mglitchat -7:48 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS Then it's time to rewrite and get those orphans in
there! RT@DsBSC: @rachelnseigel: @dianezahler what if one has all but orphans?
#MGLitChat -7:49 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser @rachelnseigel Thanks! #mglitchat -7:49 PM Dec
6th, 2012
story_queen Hi #mglitchat! I can't believe I finally have a
minute to check in on you and there's only 10 min left!!! Alas--I've missed you
all! -7:49 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @amberjkeyser There are not any, are there?!? :)
#MGLitChat -7:49 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @DsBSC @rachelnseigel @dianezahler
@danyelleleafty Parents-assumed-missing works too! #mglitchat -7:49 PM Dec 6th,
2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel: @DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty
what other books are there like this? ;-) #mglitchat #slippersofpearl -7:49 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser Frankly even a unique fantasy premise/world
would be welcome these days. I'm back to writing contemporary realistic. Burnt
out. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS Especially when said Ninja
runs ON the ocean to chase after the pirate's galleon! #mglitchat -7:50 PM Dec
6th, 2012
maggiedana @Bec_AS Orphas? How about Oliver Twisted a
Vampire #mglitchat -7:50 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @DsBSC @dianezahler
@danyelleleafty Anything that gives the kids autonomy. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Dec
6th, 2012
story_queen @rachelnseigel All the time. All the time.
#mglitchat #echoesareeverywhere -7:51 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser I've made a vow to kill no more parents. :-)
@rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty #mglitchat
-7:51 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana My own 'mashups' are classic ponybooks with
contemporary kids. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @maggiedana @Bec_AS Well, Lincoln apparently
hunted vampires according to Hollywood :) #mglitchat -7:51 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser @story_queen @rachelnseigel Awesome TED talk
but Austin Kleon on how all art is a mash-up: http://t.co/dTwaH6go #mglitchat
-7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto Featuring the hit song, "If I Only Had
Some Brains." RT @maggiedana: Got it! Zombies in Oz. #mglitchat -7:52 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel @DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty
Exactly! #mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
story_queen @maggiedana @Bec_AS I'd read it. Love the title,
Oliver Twisted! #mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters @amberjkeyser @rachelnseigel @DsBSC @dianezahler
@danyelleleafty That's noble of you. *pause* Perhaps you can maim them?
#mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
PoemsofJoeMs RT @gregpincus: 25 of the Most Wonderful Book
Covers of the Year - http://t.co/sFWVELaH #mglitchat #yalitchat #kidlit -7:52
PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS I got it- robots! Vampires and zombies vs robots!
#MGLitChat -7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler I got slammed for too much parental presence.
Parents must go! @amberjkeyser @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @DsBSC
@danyelleleafty #mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @amberjkeyser @DsBSC @dianezahler
@danyelleleafty Or just put them into a deep sleep? #mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec
6th, 2012
amberjkeyser @ilanawaters Wicked! #mglitchat -7:52 PM Dec
6th, 2012
story_queen @amberjkeyser @rachelnseigel I will check it
out. Thanks for the link. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @DsBSC
@danyelleleafty We actually talked about how to deal with parents last year.
#mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon @amberjkeyser Ancient Roman Detective Noir.
You're welcome. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @DsBSC
@danyelleleafty We should re-visit that in the new year. :-) #mglitchat -7:53
PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser I like how Carl Hiassen handles parents in
HOOT. RT @dianezahler @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @DsBSC @danyelleleafty
#mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS That sounds dirty, too. Keep 'em coming! :) RT
@maggiedana: @Bec_AS Orphas? How about Oliver Twisted a Vampire #MGLitChat
-7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
michaelascotto @ilanawaters @amberjkeyser @rachelnseigel
@DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty I maimed a dad in my new WIP ;) #mglitchat
-7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
maggiedana @dianezahler Eliminating parents in MG is a
definite challenge. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser I am on it!!! RT @SympleSymon Ancient Roman
Detective Noir. You're welcome. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto @ilanawaters @amberjkeyser
@DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty Do we need to add a disclaimer- #mglitchat
-7:54 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters Bwa-ha-ha!! RT @maggiedana: @Bec_AS Orphas? How
about Oliver Twisted a Vampire #mglitchat -7:54 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler Before my time, I think. @rachelnseigel
@amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @DsBSC @danyelleleafty #mglitchat -7:54 PM Dec 6th,
2012
JeanGiardina Lurking in the corners like a Ninja (is Zombie
better?) Quasimodo for the last few minutes of #mglitchat. What have I missed?
-7:54 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto @ilanawaters @amberjkeyser
@DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty No parents were harmed in the making of
this book #mglitchat -7:54 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS Like Transformers or Voltron?
#mglitchat -7:54 PM Dec 6th, 2012
amberjkeyser RT @rachelnseigel: @michaelascotto @ilanawaters
@DsBSC @dianezahler @danyelleleafty As a parent myself, I am relieved! :-)
#mglitchat -7:55 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @DsBSC
@danyelleleafty No laws say we can't go back to it. Lots of new participants.
#mglitchat -7:55 PM Dec 6th, 2012
story_queen @JeanGiardina I missed most of it as well--and
it was an excellent topic, mg mash-ups. #mglitchat -7:55 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler @maggiedana These parents were important,
though. V. much part of the story. #mglitchat -7:55 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @CDaleyAuthor Eh, anything. I'm declaring it the next
mash-up craze. #MGLitChat -7:55 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @maggiedana @Bec_AS Actually,
speaking of Oliver Twist, Peter Nimble & his fantastic eyes has echoes of
Oliver. #mglitchat -7:56 PM Dec 6th, 2012
ilanawaters RT @rachelnseigel: @michaelascotto @amberjkeyser
@DsBSC @dianezahler No parents were harmed in the making of this book
#mglitchat -7:56 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler @story_queen Yours is a mash-up of sorts.
#mglitchat -7:56 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters @maggiedana But is it
dirty? #MGLitChat -7:56 PM Dec 6th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @Bec_AS Got it. Either one would be awesome :)
#mglitchat -7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon Speaking of mash-ups, can't believe I forgot
this: I was writing this 'Willy Wonka meets Narnia' book before EF! #mglitchat
-7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
story_queen @dianezahler @maggiedana Then you should keep
them! Trust the story. #mglitchat -7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
DsBSC @rachelnseigel is this why Bambi was classic?Disney
alwayskills parents #mglitchat @dianezahler @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @danyelleleafty
-7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS @ilanawaters @maggiedana Wow! We are
seeing a hidden side to these "innocent" middle-grade writers!
#MGLitChat -7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler Oh, they're staying! RT @story_queen @maggiedana
Then you should keep them! Trust the story. #mglitchat -7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
story_queen @dianezahler most definitely. It was a
"stew" of a story in someways. #mglitchat -7:57 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @DsBSC @dianezahler @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters
@danyelleleafty The mom had to die for the story to work. #mglitchat -7:58 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
dianezahler And most of their fairy tales do too. @DsBSC:
@rachelnseigel @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters @danyelleleafty #mglitchat -7:58 PM
Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @DsBSC @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters
@danyelleleafty Remember- most of Disney movies were based on classic stories.
#mglitchat -7:59 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler @DsBSC @amberjkeyser @ilanawaters
@danyelleleafty They just eliminate the "grimm" from the Grimm
versions. #mglitchat -7:59 PM Dec 6th, 2012
matt_janacone Sorry Imissed #mglitchat tonight. -8:00 PM Dec
6th, 2012
ilanawaters I gotta go, folks. This was a fantastic chat!
Thank you, hostesses. See everyone next week. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Dec 6th, 2012
Bec_AS Heading out, great chat everyone! Thank you! :)
#MGLitChat -8:01 PM Dec 6th, 2012
SympleSymon Superheroes in fairytale land! #MGLitChat -8:01
PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel Well all, it's 10pm already, and that means
#Mglitchat is over for another week! Next week we talk about handling war in MG
lit. -8:01 PM Dec 6th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat thanks to all who participated
tonight! :-) -8:01 PM Dec 6th, 2012
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