JoWhittemore Ladies and gents, #mglitchat is on! #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel RT @JoWhittemore: Ladies and gents, #mglitchat is on! #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @KDuBayGillis *snort* That's nothing. I have my own dragon! #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss @AlisonHertz Hi! Did you have a yummy lunch as planned? #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters Can I ride your dragon? #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Tonight I'm joined by lovely co-host @rachelnseigel as we talk about action/adventure in MG. #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @Jess_Keating Me too Jess. #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble Ready for action/adventure! #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
michaelascotto I'm knee-deep in a project, but I'll certainly be checking in to #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @garbergrumble Our chats are always an adventure! ;-) #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 16th, 2012
inkyelbows On right NOW: RT @waldenpondpress: Dont forget #mglitchat tonight! Topic: Action & Adventure in MG. Check it out 9pm ET. -8:03 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina Yay! I'm here for #mglitchat. *waves to mg friends* -8:03 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore But let's start by actually DEFINING action/adventure. What places a book in that category? #mglitchat -8:03 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday RT “@inkyelbows: On right NOW: RT @waldenpondpress: Dont forget #mglitchat tonight! Topic: Action & Adventure in MG. Check it out 9pm ET.” -8:03 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore At the risk of sounding fecious, a story that is an adventure and has lots of stuff happening! ;-) #mglitchat -8:03 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard Woo hoo! Finally made it to mglitchat and ready for action. #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
inkyelbows RT @jowhittemore: Tonight I'm joined by lovely co-host @rachelnseigel as we talk about action/adventure in MG. #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Seriously though- I see them often as being more plot focused and less character driven stories. My opion. #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel I don't know...she's kind of shy *whispers to dragon* She says okay! #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz “@PippaBayliss: @AlisonHertz Hi! Did you have a yummy lunch as planned? #mglitchat” No, revised pb instead. Hoping for sushi tomorrow. -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel So you need heart-pumping adrenaline. :) #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel I agree. #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters YAY! *Claps Hands* I've always wanted to go for a dragon ride! What time r u picking me up? ;-) #mglitchat -8:04 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon I'm BACK for the first time in weeks. Not my fault, it's 2am here, and I'm usually asleep. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Um, I think she's busy riding a dragon...#mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters A quest is a big win for action/adventure. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @JoWhittemore I think anything out of the ordinary that stretches the MC in mental and physical ways could be adventurous/action #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Absolutely, though you could say that about thrillers too. It has 2 be a hughe whirlwind. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard huge I mean. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina I add: exploring an unfamiliar/unknown world #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @Jess_Keating yes! But do you think it can be just mental. It seems physical action is required. #mglitchat -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Sheryl_Freeman #mglitchat is going on :-) -8:05 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz #mglitchat Yay! I'm here. Hello fellow writers. *waves to Pippa* -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble Does fantasy count as action adventure or do you see them as separate categories? #mglitchat -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard @Jess_Keating I think it has to be physical to be an action novel. #mglitchat -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JenSwanBooks RT @Sheryl_Freeman: #mglitchat is going on :-) -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard RT @Sheryl_Freeman: #mglitchat is going on :-) -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Do we consider sports books action/adventure? #mglitchat -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz RT @JeanGiardina: I add: exploring an unfamiliar/unknown world #mglitchat -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @garbergrumble Adventure is like speculative fiction- it's a broader term with many sub-genres. #mglitchat -8:06 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel My dragon will consult her schedule and get back to you. She's booked for kid b-day parties this week. #mglitchat -8:07 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore They have lots of action, but I don't think they're the same. #mglitchat -8:07 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @Jess_Keating Totally agree Jess. @JoWhittemore #mglitchat -8:07 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel @Jess_Keating yeah, I really do too. Rick Riordan and Gordon Korman are good examples. #mglitchat -8:07 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters :-( Tell her I can be ready at a moment's notice! After you can ride my unicorn! #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @kamikinard Good question! I think, most likely yeah. Kind of helps me to think of RISKS, too. Like, is the risk physical? #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jessStorkwrites @rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore That's an interesting thought. I think if it's done well it can be both character driven & plot. #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @Jess_Keating Oh yeah. Risks are a big part! #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina I think of adventure as being a physical, hero's journey. Huge mental component, but moving thru a new physical world. #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Jess_Keating @kamikinard Again, my 2 cents of course, but I think it has to be physical- mental risk is a different kind of book #mglitchat -8:08 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @JeanGiardina great point #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JeanGiardina Well-put- I agree! #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @jessStorkwrites True, but I find that to be the exception. #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
chorkie Rebecca Stead's new LIAR & SPY - adventure #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @ilanawaters Can't believe that you have a dragon and never told me! #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @garbergrumble there's different kinds of fantasy: high fantasy, political fantasy, heroic fantasy...The latter is action-focused #mglitchat -8:09 PM Aug 16th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Interested to see where this convo goes. I'm weak on adventure. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore So action/adventure is pushing the body/mind beyond its normal limits. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jessStorkwrites I think the best adventures quest for objects that metaphorically important to the character's internal journey too. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Is A&A a sep genre to fantasy? Usually lots of it in fantasy - but you wouldn't query an A&A fantasy, would you? #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss As a kid, if you said: "You have to read this adventure story," I more than likely would have rejected it. But had you told me... #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
elliefalcone Sorry I'm late. Cat wanted to play while I wanted to stretch. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat going back to the fantasy question- I think a lot of fantasy novels are adventure novels. Like STORYBOUND for example. -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @LaurelSnyder Me too. I 'd really like to incorporate more into my novels. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel @kamikinard Oh, I totally agree. Mental is way different, stakes, too :) #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss ...it was about a strong girl, I would have eaten it up. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
elliefalcone @chorkie I want to read that so badly. After the many others on my list. #mglitchat -8:10 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat r survival stories adventures/action novels? Like is HATCHET or MY SIDE OF THE MOUNTAIN adventure? -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore And how do we make it believable for someone who's in the 10-12 year old range to go on a grand adventure? #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz Any recent action/adventure favorites? #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jessStorkwrites @rachelnseigel Maybe the plot driven writers just start with a different purpose when writing. #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz #mglitchat Do we have mg action adventure writer, @FTBradleyAuthor here? -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @chorkie Great example! BTW - it was on my nightstand but then my 11yo stole it. Love it when my kids steal my books! #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @KarenB_Schwartz Shipbreaker comes to mind. ;) #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @JoWhittemore In fantasy, you can just set up a world where that can happen. Historical has lots of real situations. #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @jessStorkwrites Can any writers weigh in on this? #mglitchat -8:11 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @JeanGiardina always a sign of a good book! #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters 10-12 year olds go on a grand adventure daily. Usually when they should be listening at school! :) #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel I think so, yes. Ultimate adventures with the highest stakes!! #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @SympleSymon agree, seems like most MG fantasy is of the epic variety so those books tend to get lumped with the action genre #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @kamikinard Was that A&A?? More like... Depressing & Depression >.>So good, but I couldn't finish it. My goodness. #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @KarenB_Schwartz Loved PETER NIMBLE AND HIS FANTASTIC EYES. #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jessStorkwrites @KarenB_Schwartz I thought N.E.R.D.S by Michael Buckley was pretty cool. #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @mikegrinti So you see action/adventure more outside the contemporary world. #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel Oooo--a unicorn! Now THAT's movin' up! #mglitchat -8:12 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Riordan is a master of the A&A - he has so much going on your eyeballs spin #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @JeanGiardina Well...*blush*...one doesn't like to brag. #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
elliefalcone How are we defining adventure? #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz @kamikinard I thought shipbreaker was more YA though. Kinda dark. #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel I don't think of Hatchet as adventure... anyone else? I'm not sure why. #Mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Which appeals to you more...a hero who is inept for an adventure, or one who is prepared? #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jessStorkwrites @JoWhittemore Portal stories maybe? #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @JoWhittemore Just what I'm familiar with. Contemp, I think you can either not worry about believability -- right tone can do it. #mglitchat -8:13 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @KarenB_Schwartz You're probably right about that. I was thinking the line was a little fuzzy there but too much violence for MG #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters Actually, I want to ride Falcor the Luck Dragon. Now that would be a trip! #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @JoWhittemore Or... work really hard at it, I guess. Kids do have adventures. Just not world-saving. #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RosanneParry @rachelnseigel @jessStorkwrites even a character-centric story can have strong A&A elements. Hattie Big Sky a good example. #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @nardinisisters Agree. It's why I love the MG age. #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @PippaBayliss I agree about Riordan and my son loves his books. #mglitchat -8:14 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @kamikinard @rachelnseigel I've been waiting for Hatchet to come up! Its the perfect Adventure, but Action not so much. #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @mikegrinti For contemp, I always imagine more of a "Home Alone" situation, or one where the parents are distant from kid's life. #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard I don't know- I guess that's the big question- is a survival story an adventure, or is it it's own genre? #Mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Loriprima @JoWhittemore for me it's the one who isn't prepared but learns along the way #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
michaelascotto @JoWhittemore I like the unexpectedly prepared -- like the kids in the Accidental Adventures books #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites Yes! I agree with and <3 this! #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz @JeanGiardina yes! Love Peter and his fantastic eyes, own that one. #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @JoWhittemore A prepared one who realizes they're over their head anyways, but then it's too late to quit! ;-) #mglitchat -8:15 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @Loriprima I like those too! #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @mikegrinti Okay, I think @KarenB_Schwartz called me on that. I was remembering the adventure parts, but I think it's YA. #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters For a kid to have an adventure, you gotta get the grown-ups out of the picture early! #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry Maybe I'm being picky here, but it feels like two different things- character-driven story w A&A, or #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble How are we feeling about Choose Your Own Adventure books? #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel OMG yes!! Me too! Faaalll-coooorr!! #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry an A/A story with strong characters. #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @Jess_Keating Ah, the overconfident who learns better! #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @garbergrumble Good way to put it. Adventure without the action so much. Maybe just not enough characters too for enough action. #mglitchat -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz “@jessStorkwrites: @KarenB_Schwartz I thought N.E.R.D.S by Michael Buckley was pretty cool. #mglitchat" true! -8:16 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I wonder where we get one of those? Maybe we have to go to Fantasia! #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RosanneParry @mikegrinti @JoWhittemore And an adventure is in the eye of the hero. For MG kids, summer camp, traveling alone = big adventure #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore If I had to choose between inept adventurer and prepared, I'd go inept. It's more fun to learn along with them. #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel I think MOUNTAIN was more survival than action. #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @garbergrumble I see my students with them frequently. #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @michaelascotto I like that idea.. that the adventure is grounded on something completely unexpected occurring to character. #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters THIS IS MY DREAM!! #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @nardinisisters I don't know if that's always true. I don't know if CLAWS is A&A, but it's adventury, and we kept parents in... #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @JoWhittemore Suspend your adult notions of reality! Works for me. :-) #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters In that case, we can do a future chat about survival stories! ;-) #mglitchat -8:17 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel @garbergrumble pegged it adventure w/o action, so I think survival w/few characters may be another genre #Mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @michaelascotto I haven't read those. They sound interesting! #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina MG-aged kids are primed for adventure - ready to explore and completely unprepared for it. A great tipping point in life. #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Alex Ryder, Percy Jackson, Rangers Apprentice, all kids' fantasy, Sisters Grimm - and Artemis Fowl (I think) def lots happening #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss Not that book begins in wilderness, desert, mountains, etc. I need to move from safety & comfort/shelter to the great unknown. #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @garbergrumble I read through all the Fighting Fantasy books XDD #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @RosanneParry Indeed! Sometimes going too big with stakes actually makes them less emotional Whole world = hard to wrap head arnd #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @Loriprima Totally agree with this. I tend to be more invested in the adventure if it happens this way. @JoWhittemore #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I totally made an Auryn for myself, check my twitpics sometime! ;-) #mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel Maybe if we all read "The Neverending Story" in an old school gym surrounded by dripping candles....#mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard Whereas maybe we could say Post-Apocalyptic or dystopian can be adventure stories? Is HG an adveture? Lots of action! #Mglitchat -8:18 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard Anyone know a good resource for writing an action sequence? #mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
michaelascotto @JoWhittemore They're witty and truly enjoyable. :) #mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I'm game! We need a group read of NEVERENDING STORY- best done during a storm! #mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RosanneParry So what do you find challenging in writing an Action scene? #mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz #mglitchat My fav recent A&A is @jodyfeldman Gollywhopper Games. Kids solving puzzles while on a quest of sorts. Great. -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I would never really advocate stealing a book from the library, but I wish I'd gotten my hands on the copy from #mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel I could see dystopian etc crossing into adventure... does setting matter? #Mglitchat -8:19 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters my library- it was HC and had colour ink with pictures. Old edition. #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @garbergrumble Are those still around? I read them aaalll the time when I was a kid. But then, I had fewer video games then, heh. #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jerameykraatz @JoWhittemore Yes! Prepared or not, I love moments when a reader and a character figure something out at the same time. #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore There always seem to be archetype classes in action/adventure (the thief, the fighter, the healer, etc). Which is best for an MC? #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard I don't think setting is as important as the action. #Mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Sorry I'm late! #MGLitChat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Let the battle royale begin! #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @AniProf Glad to see you! #MGLitChat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @jerameykraatz So hard to do, but brilliant! #mglitchat -8:20 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RosanneParry @mikegrinti Yup! think about all those horse stories where the kid saves not the whole world but the horse she loves. Power! #mglitchat -8:21 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf So, where's the action? #MGLitChat -8:21 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelgrinti @mikegrinti Choose your own adventures books are still around, and people ask for them at the library pretty regularly. #mglitchat -8:21 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @Jess_Keating @rachelnseigel Steven Spielberg has the actual Auryn in his office. #luckybastard #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @jerameykraatz I absolutely love thinking books like that. #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @JoWhittemore All kids relate to being bullied, so the bully. #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @jerameykraatz Me too! I always call it the "Ahah" moment. #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel Wow--nice. Now, practice screaming "Moonchild!" into the wind and driving rain. #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @rachelgrinti Huh! Get me one :D Get me one with spaceships :D :D :D #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @RosanneParry For me it is the amount of detail. How much is too much? #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @JoWhittemore That's fantasy A&A, right? The MC is up to you - which role would make the most dynamic difference? #mglitchat -8:22 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss A&A had never confused me before I came here. Now my head's gonna explode. I do know what books aren't A&A, which helps. #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I believe in you Empress! #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @mikegrinti pretty sure they're still available. Loved'em as a kid, but always cheated and looked at each possible ending. #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina Just ran to get my copy of Joseph Campbell's THE HERO WITH A THOUSAND FACES. This book defines A&A for me. #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @AniProf Boom! Pow! Krakoom! Better now...? #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
mikegrinti @garbergrumble I think everyone cheated on those, ha! The old "hold your finger in place to make sure you didn't die" trick yup #mglitchat -8:23 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @SpencerToday @RosanneParry Me too. And marrying action with internal stuff. (Dialogue etc, not like, bleeding) ;) #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @nardinisisters You'd choose a bully as an MC? Fascinating. A bully that learns his/her lesson, I hope! #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf If we're talking action and adventure in MG, does death need to be present? Or gore? #MGLitChat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @garbergrumble @mikegrinti I did too! I wanted it to last as long as possible! #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @JeanGiardina Without a doubt Jean. #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
LeanneTremblay @inkyelbows Wow, I didn't know there was #mglitchat. Awesome! -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelgrinti Nope. RT @AniProf: If we're talking action and adventure in MG, does death need to be present? Or gore? #MGLitChat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel LOL. And I was all "swamps of sadness" there for a minute. #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong I love when the MC has a supposedly useless talent/skill that saves the day #mglitchat -8:24 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Loriprima @SpencerToday @jowhittemore definitely! You have to have the character progression #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Jenlinlong That's what I love about Michael Buckley's NERDS series! #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @SympleSymon I use those terms for brevity on Twitter. :) But I mean...would you want the MC to have brains, brawn, heart, etc #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Not imo @AniProf You seem to have a thing for death & gore in MG lit ... ;) #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoyKirr I never knew about this chat, either!! RT @JoWhittemore: Ladies and gents, #mglitchat is on! -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz @rachelgrinti @mikegrinti #mglitchat Love, love,love Choose Your Own Adventure. -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelgrinti @JoyKirr Welcome, glad you found us! #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @JoyKirr Well, welcome! #mglitchat -8:25 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss When I was a kid, I think my idea of ultimate kid adventurer was Encyclopedia Brown. I think I married adventure w/mystery. #mglitchat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters No! We cannot let the NOTHING defeat us- we will save Fantasia! (Now I have to go re-read Neverending Story) #mglitchat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @Jenlinlong Second! I love the message that this conveys - you never know how your talents are going to come through in the end. #mglitchat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters What about ghost stories, are they AA? #mglitchat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @PippaBayliss Not really. I just play devil's advocate every now and then. My own writing is squeaky clean. #MGLitChat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss So in that sense, Nancy Drew was the epitome of an adventure/warrior and everything I was not but dreamed I could be. ;> #mglitchat -8:26 PM Aug 16th, 2012
gailecn Yay, finally here! Big t-storm killed my internet. But now ready for MG adventure. Next WIP will be adventure - good timing! #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @WriterRoss Loved that series. #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @nardinisisters I don't think so. I think it's different. #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @garbergrumble Fantasy can have lots of action adventure & it can have very little & vice versa. They aren't mutually exclusive. #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @JoyKirr @JoWhittemore Welcome! Love your bio :-) #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @AniProf You don't need to have one or the other or both. But you always - ALWAYS - need peril. Otherwise the action falls flat #mglitchat -8:27 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat regardless of genre, a story has to have action or there is no story. -8:28 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Unless this was covered early on, how do YOU define Action & Adventure? #MGLitChat -8:28 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @AniProf We're still discussing. What do you think? #MGLitChat -8:28 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong @rachelnseigel It works in Carl Hiaasen's books too, but I guess that's more their knowledge. #mglitchat -8:28 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel "And the more wishes you make, the more magical Fantasia will be!" #mglitchat -8:28 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore So we send our hero/heroine on their journey. Will they go it alone? Do they EVER go it alone? #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters We'd better get busy! #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @SympleSymon Hmm, peril. And Pauline, I assume. #MGLitChat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @ilanawaters I think Hiaasen's books are good examples. #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore I think ultimately the quest is primarily theirs, but they can have aid along the way from friends/etc... #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore I would write whichever archtype appeals to me at the moment and make it an unlikely hero, one of my fav tropes. #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @AniProf With Agatha and Gertrude trundling close behind. #mglitchat -8:29 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Kind of like in Percy Jackson. #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Just got SLJ's 100 top novels list & most of the A&A bks on it have strong character development and either action or adventure #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @JoWhittemore Hmmm. Can't think of many who totally go it alone @ #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @Jenlinlong *snort* I hope to find my own one day! #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Action-adventure: Features physical action often around a mission usually involving killing and robbing ... #MGLitChat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @JoWhittemore You gotta have a sidekick or two. They're the spice in the stew. #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf ... Many times set in forbidding locales such as jungles, deserts, or mountains. #MGLitChat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf That was Wikipedia. #MGLitChat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @EmilyJiang I love the unlikely hero. Huge fan of the underdog! #mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @kamikinard Of what? Fantasia wishes? You lost me...#mglitchat -8:30 PM Aug 16th, 2012
pattyjmchats @WriterRoss: Love ND my mum used to read it to we were kids. Wherever she stopped she'd say: "We'll have to read the rest tom... #mglitchat -8:31 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @nardinisisters Heh. You rhymed. :) #mglitchat -8:31 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @JoWhittemore IMHO, finding companions/allies along the way is an important part of A&A. #mglitchat -8:31 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @AniProf no finer source! #mglitchat -8:31 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @JoWhittemore I'm a poet and don't know it! #mglitchat -8:31 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @ilanawaters Sorry, and now I'm lost. The last comment was about how few A&A MCs go it alone w/o sidekicks (?) #mglitchat -8:32 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @JoWhittemore I like a faithful companion.. a Sancho (?) to his Don Quixote. Pardon spelling errors. #mglitchat -8:32 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @JeanGiardina Do you prefer that to the band of travelers, a la Lord of the Rings? #mglitchat -8:32 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelgrinti Remember this article from a few months ago? http://t.co/MyLl16wi 13yo used survival tips from a MG book when he fell in a river #mglitchat -8:32 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @AniProf My short-lived fantasy WIP had the MC scaling a fort. He almost fell: example of action and peril without combat. #mglitchat -8:32 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf action- something that somebody or something does (J.R. Barker) ... #MGLitChat -8:33 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong @ilanawaters You never know. Some day your Neville Longbottom gifts may saves us all. #mglitchat -8:33 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Adventure- an exciting or extraordinary event or series of events, an undertaking involving uncertainty and risk. #MGLitChat -8:33 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket late to #mglitchat hi! *waves* *tries to catch up* -8:33 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore We seem to be in agreement that most heroes don't TRULY go it alone. So when does everything finally fall on our MC's shoulders? #mglitchat -8:33 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz Anne ursu's Shadow Thieves has boy/girl MCs on an adventure #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @JoWhittemore For me, it ends up being a band in the end. You need a team. But Frodo started out alone. #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @pattyjmchats Your mom taught you early on the value of a great page-turning chapter-ender... #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @SympleSymon Mine ran across the cafeteria during lunch in his underwear...does that qualify? #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @akossket Hallo! #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf So it seems the adventure part means one could be injured or die. #MGLitChat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore At what point does the MC say, "I have to do this alone?" #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard Hiaasen great ex. RT @Jenlinlong: @rachelnseigel It works in Carl Hiaasen's books too, but I guess that's more their knowledge. #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @JeanGiardina Yes, but he always had Samwise... #mglitchat -8:34 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @Jenlinlong You just gave me chills with your Neville comment! #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @JoWhittemore in my short-lived fantasy, the MC was a beastmaster's apprentice & thief. The sword he steals works only for him #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss @JoWhittemore The MC has to conquer all alone at the climax. Poor fella (or felless). #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters *Nods solemnly* One can only hope, @Jenlinlong. One can only hope. #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore I think usually by the last 1/4-1/3 of the book, the MC reaches a point where they continue alone- #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @ilanawaters figured out problem! Victim of chat scrolling before I responded. Sorry! #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket @KarenB_Schwartz I need to read that book. Thanks for the reminder. #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @kamikinard Ooo--sorry. Not my comment! On a related note, though, I love sidekicks! #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel But what is the prompt or realization? #mglitchat -8:35 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @WriterRoss @JoWhittemore i like the duo/sidekick model. The "band of adventurers" and trios feels too common in MG #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @SympleSymon That's good. I like that! The MC is the only one who can defeat _________. #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters Gave me a gr8 idea 4 future chat! Thanks! #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @kamikinard No problem. Chat scrolling...*chuckles* #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RosanneParry @jerameykraatz @JoWhittemore Yes! and that's hard to pull off in the writing so I'm full of admiration when is see it! #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @nardinisisters Yep. But that was Samwise's choice, not Frodo's. Every character is a hero in their own way. #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore The MG hero usually is alone facing the ultimate foe during the climax, ie Meg vs. IT, Harry Potter vs. Voldie #mglitchat -8:36 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @nardinisisters Definitely - he could catch his cold #mglitchat -8:37 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @ilanawaters Love sidekicks too. Realized my WIP missing sidekicks. It really livened up the dialogue and plot when I added them. #mglitchat -8:37 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss There are always stakes, always opposing forces, always a battle of the mind or heart - only sometimes a physical battle #mglitchat -8:37 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoyKirr @JoWhittemore I like it when the MC goes it alone... Gives the reader feeling s/he can be strong alone at times, too. #mglitchat -8:37 PM Aug 16th, 2012
gailecn My fave adventure books were usually MC vs. nature. ie. Island of the Blue Dolphins, Baby Island. Some had friends; some just MC. #mglitchat -8:37 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Often it's the direction of the quest, or they reach a place friends can't follow. #mglitchat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS I'm here! So glad I didn't miss the whole thing! :) #MGLitChat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @akossket *waves back* *tries to KEEP up* Lotta new folks here tonight. #mglitchat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf I disagree that the hero needs to do it alone. The true hero understands that it's often a team effort. #MGLitChat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Phantom Tollbooth is a good example. Milo has lots of support initially, but must rescue Rhyme and Reason alone. #mglitchat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday RT @PippaBayliss: @JoWhittemore The MC has to conquer all alone at the climax. Poor fella (or felless). #mglitchat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Agreed! @EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore The MG hero usually is alone facing the ultimate foe during the climax, Harry Potter vs. Voldie #mglitchat -8:38 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel No prob. I have no idea what I did, but I love helping people! #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore I look at it like a pyramid. The MC faces the ultimate foe, but is supported by his friends/sidekicks. #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters Sidekicks/supporting cast- We can spend an evening talking about them! :-) #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
gailecn @AniProf Interesting thought! #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jerameykraatz @AniProf I like that. Pick up characters along the way, all with usefulness in the end, supporting MC. Everyone serves a purpose. #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @JeanGiardina Good visual image! #mglitchat -8:39 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf For example, Luke Skywalker did not save the day in the end. It was his father, returned from the dark side, that did. #MGLitChat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore So we send the hero into his/her final battle alone. What will be the key to winning the final conflict? #mglitchat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @kamikinard @ilanawaters My fantasy MC's sidekick is an adorable werewulf pup. #mglitchat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JeanGiardina @EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore I like that! #mglitchat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @jerameykraatz Or even a team effort from the start. #MGLitChat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Kim_Batchelor I agree RT @AniProf I disagree that the hero needs to do it alone. The true hero understands that it's often a team effort. #MGLitChat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @rachelnseigel Oh, right. *headsmack* Sorry--this chat is going by at warp speed! #mglitchat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @PippaBayliss Totally agree.There is always something that has to be dealt with.But it doesn’t always have to be done with force. #mglitchat -8:40 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @AniProf I think even when it starts as a team effort, it eventually narrows to leave only the MC to finish it. #MGLitChat -8:41 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @SympleSymon awwww. I wrote about a werewolf pup once in a chapter book. Not a sidekick though. Great idea. #mglitchat -8:41 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ilanawaters I know! I can't look away for a second or I miss something important! #mglitchat -8:41 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @JoWhittemore I like to grab stuff from the first and second act and get them to integrate to a conclusion, if possible :) #mglitchat -8:41 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss @AniProf Nope - the reader is inside the MC's head, is the MC, & if we've done our job, the reader conquers right along with them #mglitchat -8:41 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket @JoWhittemore the hero is pure of heart? I couldn't help it. ;) #mglitchat -8:42 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss Agree! RT @rachelnseigel: @AniProf I think even when it starts as a team effort, it narrows to leave only the MC to finish it. #mglitchat -8:42 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore The key to winning any battle is exploiting the enemy's weakness. Sometimes physical, sometimes mental. #mglitchat -8:42 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @PippaBayliss You said "them". So it could MC -or- MCs, yes? #MGLitChat -8:42 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @AniProf I agree but often there is one in that team that makes the ultimate decision. #mglitchat -8:42 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @SpencerToday @PippaBayliss Sherlock never solved the crime by beating the snot outta all the suspects XDD #mglitchat -8:43 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS @rachelnseigel @AniProf Or even if the team is there, the MC is the lone one to win the battle, even if helped by sidekicks #MGLitChat -8:43 PM Aug 16th, 2012
MLConklin RT @JoWhittemore: The key to winning any battle is exploiting the enemy's weakness. Sometimes physical, sometimes mental. #mglitchat -8:43 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @SympleSymon @kamikinard Interesting. We never think of ww's as puppies, do we? #mglitchat -8:43 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss @AniProf lol, no. I just didn't have space to put him or her :) #mglitchat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @akossket Hehe! Except in cases where the hero is a little bit shady but knows to do right in the end. Which I love. #mglitchat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS What he said :) -> RT @SpencerToday: @AniProf I agree but often there is one in that team that makes the ultimate decision. #MGLitChat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS @AniProf Yes! Someone eventually has to take charge. There is always a primary decision maker. #MGLitChat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @SympleSymon Perfect example my dear Watson. ;) @PippaBayliss #mglitchat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Usually involves inner growth &/or personal sacrifice @JoWhittemore What will be the key to winning the final conflict? #mglitchat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore I always recommend Sun Tzu's The Art of War when trying to figure out how to defeat an enemy. #mglitchat -8:44 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @ilanawaters @SympleSymon I know! #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong @rachelnseigel In a realistic adventure story I think it's possible to have a group effort in the finale #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @Jenlinlong and sometimes you need the whole group working together to make it work. #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jerameykraatz @Bec_AS I may just get too attached to side characters, but I like it when everyone gets a victory moment, however small. #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters I think the key is for the main character to triumph by doing something out of his/her comfort zone. #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks And usually using something the MC has learned @JoWhittemore key to winning any battle is exploiting the enemy's weakness. #mglitchat -8:45 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @RachelAnneMarks yay! good to see you online! @JoWhittemore #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
MLConklin @Jenlinlong @rachelnseigel I agree. #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @JoWhittemore @akossket Love the term "shady hero"! The are always the best kind. #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @ilanawaters @kamikinard I've changed werewolves to werewulfs - totally different species. Puppies except for every full moon! #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore THIS! RT @RachelAnneMarks: Inner growth &/or personal sacrifice @JoWhittemore What will be the key to winning the final conflict? #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @jerameykraatz Ohh, me too! #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf When it comes to who is the hero, I still say it could be multiple MCs. However, is it the MG element that says just one? #MGLitChat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina In the finale, I love it when everyone plays their part. We are in the MC's head but see the value of others' contributions. #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @JeanGiardina the pyramid is a great image! :) @JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel #mglitchat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS @jerameykraatz Small victories are perfect for sidekicks, but MCs need the glory. :) #MGLitChat -8:46 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Or #StarWars! ;) @JoWhittemore always recommend Sun Tzu's The Art of War when trying to figure out how to defeat an enemy. #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @SympleSymon Great idea. You could do tons with that and who doesn't love a puppy? #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating RT @nardinisisters: I think the key is for the main character to triumph by doing something out of his/her comfort zone. #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
MLConklin RT @garbergrumble: @JoWhittemore @akossket Love the term "shady hero"! The are always the best kind. #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS @jerameykraatz That's what makes them the hero! #MGLitChat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
nardinisisters @SympleSymon Do you have kid vampires and mummies? Could be fun... #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @garbergrumble Like Bartimaeus in The Bartimaeus Trilogy! #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SpencerToday @jerameykraatz It is great to see them all have a moment, but it is tough to not have one shine more than the other. @Bec_AS #mglitchat -8:47 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore Agree. AND...something that the MC has learned about themselves plays an important role. #mglitchat -8:48 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @JoWhittemore exactly. ___here is the vampire lord Feratu. Again, vampires in this are a totally different species. #mglitchat -8:48 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @RachelAnneMarks The Force is strong with this one! :) Do or do not. There is no try. #mglitchat -8:48 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JeanGiardina @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore As long as they realize it themselves and aren't told (I read a book like that once) #mglitchat -8:48 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore LOL they both work in different ways #mglitchat -8:48 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks LOL...@JoWhittemore The Force is strong with this one! :) Do or do not. There is no try. #mglitchat -8:49 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Yeah, how can character growth happen otherwise? #mglitchat -8:49 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz RT @Bec_AS: @jerameykraatz Small victories are perfect for sidekicks, but MCs need the glory. :) #MGLitChat -8:49 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Uhg! Agreed! RT: @rachelnseigel @JeanGiardina @JoWhittemore As long as they realize it themselves and aren't told #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore RT @Bec_AS: @jerameykraatz Small victories are perfect for sidekicks, but MCs need the glory. :) #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong Favorite adventure "shady hero": Gen from The Thief #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina @rachelnseigel @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore ACK! That's the worst! Like having your mom show up and tell you what to do. #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @nardinisisters vampires in it are a different species, warring with the human race. #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS Speaking of sidekicks, has anyone mentioned the book SIDEKICKS by @jackferraiolo? Loved it! #MGLitChat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JeanGiardina Yes! I read one where the mom and grandfather were at the end explaining why she had to do the quest alone. #mglitchat -8:50 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @SympleSymon @kamikinard Ha-ha--I'll take 'em. I luv puppies! Then again, who doesn't? #mglitchat -8:51 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Growth is vital fr that satisfying ending @JeanGiardina @JoWhittemore MC has learned about themselves plays an important role. #mglitchat -8:51 PM Aug 16th, 2012
PippaBayliss @AniProf the 'one hero' thing comes from the reader's need to identify with & bond with MC, so more than 1 divides their loyalty #mglitchat -8:51 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Okay, so people were bouncing these around earlier, BUT...Favorite Action/Adventure books? #mglitchat -8:51 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Favorite MIDDLE GRADE Action/Adventure books, I should say. #mglitchat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks We call that bossy-pants writing ;) @JeanGiardina @rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Like having yr mom show up & tell you what to do. #mglitchat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore Phantom Tollbooth! Forever a favourite. #mglitchat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @PippaBayliss I still respectfully disagree. #MGLitChat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @JoWhittemore Gen from Megan Whalen Turner's Attolia series is another good one. #mglitchat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss Going to go total geek here to say I prefer simultaneous inner spiritual adventure; more powerful than traditional external epic. #mglitchat -8:52 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @JoWhittemore First favorite coming to mind: Astrid Lindgren's "Mio, My Son." #mglitchat -8:53 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Maybe these don't count as adventure but I always loved the #HardyBoys as a kid :) @JoWhittemore Favorite Action/Adventure books? #mglitchat -8:53 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz @JoWhittemore #mglitchat favs change, today it id Gollywhopper Games -8:53 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Kim_Batchelor My imaginary sidekick and I are lurking for the first time on #MGLitChat Interesting discussion. -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Agreed! RT @WriterRoss: ... I prefer simultaneous inner spiritual adv.; more powerful than trad. external epic. #MGLitChat -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz “@JoWhittemore: Favorite MIDDLE GRADE Action/Adventure books, I should say. #mglitchat” I liked Anne ursu's The Shadow Thieves -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @RachelAnneMarks Hardy Boys had *2* MCs! #MGLitChat -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore Hardy Boys totally count! #mglitchat -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Also LOVED the #Merlin books by TA Barron! @JoWhittemore Favorite MIDDLE GRADE Action/Adventure books, I should say. #mglitchat -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @JoWhittemore How about Chasing Vermeer? Not typical, but still MG and A&A. I liked it! #mglitchat -8:54 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf 3 MCs! RT @kamikinard: @JoWhittemore How about Chasing Vermeer? Not typical, but still MG and A&A. I liked it! #MGLitChat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @RachelAnneMarks Hardy Boys are totally adventure books! And Nancy Drew! @JoWhittemore #mglitchat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore My favorites are Redwall by B Jacques, The Bartimaeus Trilogy by J Stroud, the 101 Dalmatians by D. Smith, His Dark Materials... #mglitchat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @Kim_Batchelor I want a sidekick. <g> #mglitchat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JeanGiardina You guys probably don't know this, but I was Nancy Drew in my youth. #mglitchat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @ilanawaters @kamikinard You just don't want to be alone with 1 come the full Moon....they become raging adults. #mglitchat -8:55 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @WriterRoss @JoWhittemore OMG! *jumps up and down waaay too enthusiastically* One of my fav's! #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I loved Storybound, Keeper of Lost Cities, Charlie and the Chocolate FActory, Neverending story.... -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @AniProf Ahhh. You're right about the MCs! #MGLitChat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
gailecn @JeanGiardina haha! Do you still have that titian hair? #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating @JoWhittemore I've never read 101 Dalmatians! Adding to my list! #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
KarenB_Schwartz @JeanGiardina did you find the ghost in the attic? #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
jerameykraatz @JoWhittemore Really dug Wrede's "Enchanted Forest Chronicles" growing up. First 2 books were great. Strong, funky characters. #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KarenB_Schwartz Breadcrumbs could be considered adventure. I loved that one! #mglitchat -8:56 PM Aug 16th, 2012
ilanawaters @Kim_Batchelor *looks through binoculars* I seee you, lurker! Welcome! #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Loved INKHEART #MGLitChat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard RT @SympleSymon: @ilanawaters @kamikinard adult humans? :) #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @Jess_Keating SO much better than the any of the films. #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Bec_AS @rachelnseigel I have Storybound on my nightstand, but haven't gotten to it yet. #MGLitChat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @RachelAnneMarks @JoWhittemore My fav MG action/adventure books were Alanna by Tamora PIerce & The Blue Sword by Robin McKinley #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
gailecn @KarenB_Schwartz The Ghost in the Attic! I LOVED that book. Read it til it fell apart. #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss @ilanawaters @JoWhittemore Were you the other person in the world that read MIO, MY SON? <g> #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Also City of Ember by J DuPrau #mglitchat -8:57 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks But I thought I was!!! RT: @JeanGiardina You guys probably don't know this, but I was Nancy Drew in my youth. #mglitchat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Bec_AS It was a lot of fun- if u like Inkheart, you'll like this, but it isn't the same story. #MGLitChat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
SympleSymon @kamikinard lol, no - bipedal feral killing machines #mglitchat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @AniProf LOVED Inkheart too. But is it solidly MG? What do you think of INKDEATH? #MGLitChat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jess_Keating One of my faves, too! RT @AniProf: Loved INKHEART #MGLitChat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks I was just gonna say these! Classics! RT: @JoWhittemore My favorites are Redwall by B Jacques #mglitchat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @@kamikinard @AniProf Upper Middle Grade, but still MG! #MGLitChat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
EmilyJiang @JeanGiardina I totally wanted to be Nancy Drew! or George! never Bess. #mglitchat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf Yes! And the sequels. RT @JoWhittemore: Also City of Ember by J DuPrau #MGLitChat -8:58 PM Aug 16th, 2012
garbergrumble @Bec_AS its a good one, great voice and MC #mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz “@JoWhittemore: Also City of Ember by J DuPrau #mglitchat” Enjoyed that. Did u read sequel, People of Sparks? -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket @JoWhittemore first favorite that comes to me: Akata Witch by @Nnedi #mglitchat then The Emerald Atlas then The Search for Wondla etc... -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AniProf @kamikinard Inkheart ---> Inkdeath ... same growth from MG to YA as in the HP series. #MGLitChat -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks Robin McKinley is a gold star, fo' shiz! @EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore Alanna by Tamora PIerce & The Blue Sword by Robin McKinley #mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel I swear the lines are blurry! #MGLitChat -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @jerameykraatz Yes, Dealing with Dragons! #mglitchat -8:59 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore @AlisonHertz I didn't. :( I was afraid it would lose the magic. #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Kim_Batchelor @WriterRoss lucky for you I'm working on imaginary sidekick cloning. :) #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kamikinard Yes they are, and it's very subjective! Even authors aren't always sure , I've learned! #MGLitChat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @AniProf I agree with that! Funke is brilliant. Inkdeath basically had an adult MC though. #MGLitChat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket RT @AniProf: Loved INKHEART #MGLitChat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
WriterRoss I need to think about this topic some more. Not a typical go-to place for me & I'm intrigued. (cont) #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
akossket RT @JoWhittemore: Also City of Ember by J DuPrau #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
RachelAnneMarks One of my faves in elementary was Cricket In Times Square :) @EmilyJiang @JoWhittemore #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
kamikinard @rachelnseigel Right. Even me, in those borderline cases, especially. #MGLitChat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
Jenlinlong Chris Wooding's Poison and almost all Philip Pullman novels #mglitchat -9:00 PM Aug 16th, 2012
AlisonHertz “@JoWhittemore: @AlisonHertz I didn't. :( I was afraid it would lose the magic. #mglitchat” On my ipad, but didn't read it yet -9:01 PM Aug 16th, 2012
JoWhittemore Folks, we're officially done for the night, but you're welcome to stay and chat. Thanks for your brilliant contributions! #mglitchat -9:01 PM Aug 16th, 2012
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