- JoWhittemore It's time to get our #MGLitchat on, y'all! #mglitchat -8:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #mglitchat We all know that Hunger Games is the hot with teens, but how about dystopia for MG? Any favourites? -8:01 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Aww. You spell favorites Britishly. :-) #mglitchat -8:02 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore LOL! It's the whole living in Canada thing! #Mglitchat -8:03 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Can we go back to older books and say "The Giver" by Lois Lowry? #mglitchat -8:04 PM May 17th, 2012
- Mike_Jung @rachelnseigel THE BOY AT THE END OF THE WORLD by @gregvaneekhout is one. #mglitchat -8:04 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel Love those Canadians...#mglitchat -8:04 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Mike_Jung @gregvaneekhout #Mglitchat I don't think I've read that one- is it new? -8:05 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore For Middle Grade dystopic, I'd also throw in "The City of Ember" by Jeanne DuPrau. LOVED that book. Not so much the movie. #mglitchat -8:05 PM May 17th, 2012
- Mike_Jung @rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore There are also THE BOOKS OF EMBER by Jeanne DuPrau. #mglitchat -8:05 PM May 17th, 2012
- malmartintx Silly question-what constitutes mglit? #mglitchat -8:05 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Mike_Jung @JoWhittemore #Mglitchat Those are great! And I was about to say the Shadow Children series from Margaret Peterson HAddix. -8:05 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel Do people consider @AaronStarmer's The ONLY ONES to be dystopian? Loved that book. #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @Mike_Jung Jinx!! #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- Jess_Keating We use an extra 'u' because it gives that extra oomph ;-) @KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- Mike_Jung @rachelnseigel Fairly new, it came out last year. #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- Mike_Jung @JoWhittemore Buy me a coke! #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- CarolTanzman gathering blue by lois lowery. #mglitchat -8:06 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @malmartintx #Mglitchat Not silly at all- I think we generally say MG is around the 8-12-year-old age range. 12+ is usually YA. -8:07 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @Jess_Keating @kdubaygillis @rachelnseigel Haha! Canadians...so fancy! #mglitchat -8:07 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @CarolTanzman The fourth book in the series is coming out this fall! #mglitchat -8:07 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen great question re: alt mg titles for YA; does anyone else have probs marketing as mg NOT YA? #mglitchat -8:07 PM May 17th, 2012
- CarolTanzman @rachelnseigel fantastic. title? #mglitchat -8:08 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @CarolTanzman #Mglitchat Son. Think it's October. -8:09 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @anglarsen #Mglitchat I don't. My customers ask for them! -8:10 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder From upstairs I can hear Senator Stern reading Half Magic aloud to the boys. #icanbasicallydiehappy #myworkhereisdone #mglitchat -8:10 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @LaurelSnyder Uh, oops. Didn't mean to hashtag that. Sorry, folks. #mglitchat -8:10 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore You know what? I'll also throw @lisa_mcmann's "The Unwanteds" on there. A bit more on the magical side but still a dystopic feel. #mglitchat -8:11 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelgrinti The Limit by Kristen Landon is another MG dystopia. #mglitchat -8:11 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I remember parents of 9&10 year-olds asking for Sisterhood of the Traveling Pants not knowing they were older teen characters. -8:11 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa Good evening, folks! Catching up on the start of the chat... #mglitchat -8:12 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @rachelnseigel I have issues with the big booksellers wanting to put my mg into YA section. #mglitchat -8:12 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore So are dystopian MGs less gritty than YA dystopian? Where's the line? #mglitchat -8:12 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @rachelnseigel I bought that for my daughter when she was young--not THAT young, but the cover made me think is was not as "old". #mglitchat -8:13 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @lisa_mcmann #Mglitchat Yes. It does work as dystopian- sort of. -8:13 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws I have a book that was marketed as YA in hardcover, MG now in paperback. #mglitchat -8:13 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS just jumping in- hi everyone! #mglitchat -8:13 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @anglarsen #Mglitchat That's frustrating. I divide my showroom into MG, Tween and teen. Basically, (cont) http://t.co/e2yB0tr8 -8:13 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa @lisabrowndraws what was the reason for the switch? #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws I think I know your book! #Mglitchat With Simon & Schuster right? -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @KDuBayGillis I think the line for dystopic MG vs YA is drawn with the amount of violence and horror involved. And romance. #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws It was historical, not sexy. RT @KarenninaPosa: @lisabrowndraws what was the reason for the switch? #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @Bec_AS Welcome, welcome! #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen RT @lisabrowndraws: I have a book that was marketed as YA in hardcover, MG now in paperback. #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Picture the Dead, with Sourcebooks.RT @rachelnseigel: @lisabrowndraws I think I know your book! #Mglitchat With Simon & Schuster right? -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS *waves hi* Thanks for joining us! #mglitchat -8:14 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Not sexy ENOUGH. RT @lisabrowndraws: It was historical, not sexy. RT @KarenninaPosa: what was the reason for the switch? #mglitchat -8:15 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder Sometimes people outside industry call anything not for adults "YA." Charlotte's Web is YA to them. #mglitchat -8:15 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore I think violence and horror in MG always gets more of a pass than the romance. #mglitchat -8:16 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Ugh RT @LaurelSnyder: Sometimes people outside industry call anything not for adults "YA." Charlotte's Web is YA to them. #mglitchat -8:16 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder #Mglitchat It drives me crazy really. I tend to shelve more according to age of characters than publisher lables. -8:16 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman RT @LaurelSnyder: Sometimes people outside industry call anything not for adults "YA." Charlotte's Web is YA to them. #mglitchat -8:17 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS I think there are a lot of books that they don't know where to put-our libs switch mg to ya all the time ex: Fablehaven series #mglitchat -8:17 PM May 17th, 2012
- kurtisscaletta I don't get tonight's. We shouldn't be tagging after YA. #mglitchat -8:17 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore #Mglitchat Sex is automatic YA. Violence not as much, but it depends. -8:18 PM May 17th, 2012
- kurtisscaletta I don't get tonight's topic. We shouldn't be tagging along after YA. #mglitchat -8:18 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws It doesn't bother me so much if I think about what the term meant when I was a kid. #mglitchat -8:18 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #Mglitchat That's true. -8:18 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Ain't that a sad state of affairs? RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat Sex is automatic YA. Violence not as much, but it depends. -8:18 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @kurtisscaletta #Mglitchat we have gotten a bit off track! We're supposed to be talking about MG alternatives to popular YA. -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Oh, yes RT @LaurelSnyder: @lisabrowndraws It doesn't bother me so much if I think about what the term meant when I was a kid. #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @Bec_AS Was just going to mention Fablehaven! Good one #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Sorry me late. #MGLitChat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- chaimshapiro Hi. I'm poking my head in for the first time :-) #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #Mglitchat for all of the fairy loving girls who r too young for Cassandra Clare and Melissa Marr, I like ED Baker's Fairy Wings. -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws @rachelnseigel Sex, yes, but how much "relationship" stuff would boot mg to ya? #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws Right. Because violence is healthy and normal. Sex is for PERVS. <sighs> <writes sexy board book> #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore MG (probably) = less violence, lower level of intensity & "Whoa Nelly!" on the sex. #mglitchat -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman RT @lisabrowndraws: Ain't that a sad state of affairs? RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat Sex is automatic YA. Violence not as much, but it depends. -8:19 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @kurtisscaletta Hey, Kurtis! It's not about tagging along. It's about finding books for younger audiences not ready for YA #mglitchat -8:20 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws #Mglitchat crushes, no biggie. Kisses r fine, but making out, not MG. -8:20 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder Hahahaha! I would love to see the sexy board book you come up with. #mglitchat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws #Mglitchat I think it's about the innocence. But we'll get into that in a (cont) http://t.co/LKdHIOMe -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana Jumping in late. Hi, everyone. Looks like a great subject tonight. #mglitchat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @Bec_AS It doesn't take much. People still argue about Jacob Have I Loved. SOmeone told me the last Little House books are YA. #mglitchat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @LaurelSnyder Would love to see one of those! {hides head in shame} #mglitchat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @LaurelSnyder @rachelnseigel The thing about putting #mg into ya is that the reviews coming from ya readers can b bad :-/ #mglitchat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Basically, I hear y'all saying that YA is adult in training, while MG is kids. #MGLitChat -8:21 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @Bec_AS We'll leave that to @lisabrowndraws She's the expert. #mglitchat -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #MGlitchat The difficulty booksellers/librarians have is knowing the kids want Hunger Games & Twilight but r too young 4 them. -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa @kurtisscaletta I agree. But MG readers often want to read popular YA, but maybe aren't ready for those yet. Options? #mglitchat -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @KDuBayGillis Yeah, because if the environment/storyline is other-worldly, it has that distancing effect. #mglitchat -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @AniProf #Mglitchat Isn't every level a step up the ladder of growing up? -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws There wasn't an extended amount of time passed between the two either, if I remember. Right? #mglitchat -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @anglarsen This happens to my last book. YA readers pick it up and find it babyish. "I thought this was supposed to be fantasy!" #mglitchat -8:22 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @rachelnseigel So what is a good vampire alt. for mg??? #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @KarenninaPosa An agent once described 'tween' fiction as "A kinder, gentler YA," and said she wanted more of it. #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel But I know a lot of parents who are letting their young readers read HG and are reading with them. #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf True! RT @rachelnseigel: @AniProf #Mglitchat Isnt every level a step up the ladder of growing up? #MGLitChat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder You should tell them "It WAS, but I cut the scene with the sexy fairy." #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 Not too long, no. #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws LOL! Sexy board book...where oh where do we put that in B&N?? #mglitchat -8:23 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf For me, a great MG is a fantastic story without the burden of protagonists trying to become adults. #MGLitChat -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @Bec_AS I think kids who want vamps actually want romance, much of the time. #weird #mglitchat -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @Bec_AS @rachelnseigel Good ol' Bunicula? #mglitchat -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #Mglitchat Oliver Nocturne is really good for that. Young boy vampire. And Adelle Griffin has good series- Vampire ISland. -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS My 12yo read HG, but I'm hesitant to do Twilight (not sure why) #mglitchat -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen RT @rachelnseigel: @Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws #Mglitchat crushes, no biggie. Kisses r fine, but making out, not MG. -8:24 PM May 17th, 2012
- lisabrowndraws Yes! @adelegriffin RT @rachelnseigel: @Bec_AS #Mglitchat And Adelle Griffin has good series- Vampire ISland. -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa @maggiedana Tween is upper MG, right? #mglitchat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder Now I want to write a book about a 10 year old vampire who has trouble fitting in at her new school, and hates her step-mom. #mglitchat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- elliefalcone RT @AniProf: For me, a great MG is a fantastic story without the burden of protagonists trying to become adults. #MGLitChat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Hmm, that's early MG RT @KDuBayGillis: @Bec_AS @rachelnseigel Good ol Bunicula? #MGLitChat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @Bec_AS #mglitchat I still love the Bunnicula books, though they aren't quite Cirque du Freak or Vlad Todd alternatives. -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @AniProf: For me, a great MG is a fantastic story without the burden of protagonists trying to become adults. #mglitchat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- readandriot @rachelnseigel Yes! And they've already read Wimpy Kind, Big Nate & The Dork Diaries. What's next? #Mglitchat -8:25 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @rachelnseigel Thanks, I'll have to check those out. #mglitchat -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa Why I write MG. RT @AniProf: For me, a great MG is a fantastic story without the burden of protagonists trying to become adults. #mglitchat -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @KarenninaPosa: @maggiedana Tween is upper MG, right? //Yes, but I don't think bookstores have a tween section ... yet. #mglitchat -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @readandriot #Mglitchat Blogtastic, Popularity Papers, Loser List -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- libmaryann RT @rachelnseigel: #MGlitchat The difficulty booksellers/librarians have is knowing the kids want Hunger Games & Twilight but r too young 4 them. -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @readandriot #Mglitchat Cheesie Mac -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen RT @maggiedana: @KarenninaPosa An agent once described 'tween' fiction as "A kinder, gentler YA," and said she wanted more of it. #mglitchat -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- ixtumea @LaurelSnyder Don't they already have one like that? Seems like they do. #mglitchat -8:26 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf We need new age Hardy Boys and Nancy Drew, yes? #MGLitChat -8:27 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Does anyone have any "chicklit" favourites for MG? I recommend (cont) http://t.co/piZAKRWX -8:28 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @JoWhittemore @kurtisscaletta There's always a grey area at the edge. MG hard to delineate; it has a lower & an upper grey area. #mglitchat -8:28 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @maggiedana without going back to a previous topic of killing off all the adults! :) #mglitchat -8:28 PM May 17th, 2012
- MilaHaines Howl's Moving Castle is magical, imaginative, and great for a MG audience. Though, a book I recommend at any age. Haha. #MGlitchat -8:28 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana There's a big gap between MG and YA fiction, kind of like the gap in kids' clothing sizes where you can't find any that fit. #mglitchat -8:28 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @Bec_AS: @maggiedana without going back to a previous topic of killing off all the adults! :) // LOL!! #mglitchat -8:29 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @story_queen @KDuBayGillis @Bec_AS #mglitchat still makes me laugh- the white vegetables get me every time! -8:29 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder How do people classify Once and Future King? Princess Bride? #mglitchat -8:29 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS Is Vampirates MG? #mglitchat -8:29 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @rachelnseigel Dude (can I call u that?) u are so handy to have in this chat!! #mglitchat #fabbooks -8:30 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder I'd put Princess Bride as MG. Would've read it in junior high. #mglitchat -8:30 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @anglarsen #mglitchat sure, and I like to think I have my uses! ;-) -8:30 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @LaurelSnyder I *thought* of Princess Bride as YA, but now I'm thinking it should be MG- there's just a bit of kissing, right? #mglitchat -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Ya know, I really am getting sick of vampires ... especially the sparkly kind. #MGLitChat -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder I think some of the humor would've gone over my head, though. :p #mglitchat -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @LaurelSnyder Once and Future King=awesome. Same with Princes Bride! Category to themselves. #mglitchat -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @LaurelSnyder #Mglitchat funny- can absolutely work for that age, but never seen it marketed that way! -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @anglarsen @rachelnseigel That's why she's co-hosting. Knows all the titles! #mglitchat -8:31 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #mglitchat The more popular something is at the YA level, wait 2 yrs and you'll see MG alternatives. -8:32 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf True. RT @rachelnseigel: #mglitchat The more popular something is at the YA level, wait 2 yrs and youll see MG alternatives. #MGLitChat -8:32 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen The awesome thing about MG is that there is SO much difference between an 8yr old and a 12 yr old. Huge variety. #mglitchat -8:32 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman RT @rachelnseigel: #mglitchat The more popular something is at the YA level, wait 2 yrs and you'll see MG alternatives. -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @AniProf Maybe it's time for dull vampires? #mglitchat -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @rachelnseigel So we should be seeing a LOT more vampires in MG? @AniProf will love it! #mglitchat -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @coachhays64 Agreed. And that's why you get some kids reading up an age group. I read "racy" Sweet Valley High when I was 12. #mglitchat -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder When kisses are part of fairy tale or historical they're different, I think. We accept them as myth. Sleeping Beauty. #mglitchat -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel You both rock :-) #mglitchat #knowitalls -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel So what's moving beyond dystopian in YA these days? What do you think we'll see in 2 years? #mglitchat -8:33 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf At local B&N, Young Readers is in the Kids area, right next to picture books. No wonder MG kids gravitate to YA. #MGLitChat -8:34 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Snarf! RT @maggiedana: @AniProf Maybe its time for dull vampires? #MGLitChat -8:34 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @story_queen #Mglitchat in every fiction category, there are wide expanses. Big diff btwn lower YA and Upper YA too! -8:34 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @JoWhittemore Me, too!! :) #mglitchat -8:34 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @JoWhittemore Rebel. #mglitchat -8:35 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen Hmm..doesn't the trend go the other way? Didn't kids read HP and then wanted books that blended fantasy &reality? Vamp trend? #mglitchat -8:35 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @rachelnseigel O, so to answer your question ;-) my series could be considered mg "chicklit" 5 girls time travel @50sChix #mglitchat -8:35 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @AniProf I think MG kids are more influenced by their big sibs, cousins, babysitters, coaches, etc. #mglitchat -8:36 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @AniProf I've got it. BORED vampires. They yawn and take lots of naps. Even better, GEEK or NERD vampires. I'm on a roll, here. #mglitchat -8:36 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @story_queen #MGlitchat trends can go parallel too- when something is popular, they want more just like it! -8:36 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @AniProf I wanted to do everything like my babysitter in HS (concerts, movies, books). #mglitchat -8:36 PM May 17th, 2012
- word_working My 10-y-o is re-reading the Kiki Strike series for the 2nd or 3rd time; she also just reviewed 'Middle World' (1st in a series) #mglitchat -8:37 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @rachelnseigel All thi upper-ing and lower-ing makes my head spin. Next, we'll have upper and lower women's fiction and ... #mglitchat -8:37 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @Bec_AS I still remember when Jessica Wajefield went out with Bruce and he untied her bikini top. I became a woman that day. #mglitchat -8:38 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @maggiedana #Mglitchat I know what you mean! I think it's because even within MG or YA there are younger readers and older readers -8:38 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @maggiedana @rachelnseigel Not to mention middle women's fiction--and then middle earth fiction...#mglitchat -8:38 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @maggiedana #Mglitchat and now I'm seeing "New Adult" which is for the 18-25 year-olds who r in University or just out of. -8:39 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore Oh, good lord. Jessica Wakefield, I mean. #mglitchat -8:39 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @rachelnseigel Yes, New Adult. Makes one wonder what happened to the old adults. Did someone throw them away? #mglitchat -8:39 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore @Bec_AS #Mglitchat there were some mature topics in the SVH, but were pretty tame. I read them at 11. -8:39 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @maggiedana #Mglitchat LOL! They're just adults! -8:40 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @story_queen: Not to mention middle womens fiction--and then middle earth fiction... // sigh, and middle age. #mglitchat -8:40 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Hmm so most kids/teens will read up but not down, agewise. #MGLitChat -8:40 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @rachelnseigel @maggiedana "new Adult" = COOL! Anyway, back to #mglitchat -8:40 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @delzey How about Little Women? #mglitchat -8:40 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman @maggiedana @rachelnseigel I'm an old adult, and I read MG. #mglitchat -8:41 PM May 17th, 2012
- wonderwegian What do you think the best quiet, contemporary coming-of-age novels are? #mglitchat -8:41 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #Mglitchat speaking of Sweet Valley High, anybody have any favourite MG romances? -8:41 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf But adults will read down, to recapture their youth. #MGLitChat -8:41 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @jjhoutman: Im an old adult, and I read MG. // Heck, I'm an old adult and I read picture books. Mo Willems/Elephant & Piggy. #mglitchat -8:42 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @rachelnseigel You promiscuous young thing! ;-) #mglitchat -8:42 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @AniProf Great point re: kids read up. My protags are 14-15, but from the '50s (age of innocence). This confuses booksellers! #mglitchat -8:42 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @JoWhittemore I knew who you meant! LOL! #Mglitchat -8:42 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore #mglitchat :-) You know- I think I just glossed over most of the stuff I didn't care about. Just liked twin stories! -8:43 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen Er..um..that would be me. RT But adults will read down, to recapture their youth. #MGLitChat @AniProf -8:43 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @anglarsen Upper MG protags should be 14-15, yes? #mglitchat -8:44 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @anglarsen @AniProf #Mglitchat I call that tween. I'd sell it to Grades 6-8. -8:44 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey @LaurelSnyder YA for LITTLE WOMEN. or classics. never shelved in MG. i think because they have dry "adult" covers #mglitchat -8:44 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Got it! MG wants to be YA, YA wants to be Adult, and adults want someone to change their diapers. #MGLitChat -8:44 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @AniProf I *write* down to recapture my youth! LOL! #mglitchat -8:45 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore Let's see...MG Romance? Shug by Jenny Han. #mglitchat -8:45 PM May 17th, 2012
- kellypolark @story_queen @AniProf I read in the genre I write in for pleasure & research. And to act young. :P #mglitchat -8:45 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa RT @anglarsen: @AniProf I *write* down to recapture my youth! LOL! #mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS Thinking tween, I just read, as did my 12yo SIDEKICKS, which touching on puberty in boys #Mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman @AniProf Not "down." I read MG because it's good, not pretentious, and doesn't ramble. I don't need to recapture my youth. #mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @delzey @LaurelSnyder Speaking of "dry adult covers," don't you love the Twilight Cover Treatment they've given many classics. #mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @AniProf Wait, what? MG wants to be YA? Not in my universe... #mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore Can't say how much I love Shug by @jennyhan. For me, the perfect MG. #mglitchat -8:46 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS RT @anglarsen: @AniProf I *write* down to recapture my youth! LOL! #Mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @maggiedana I think they can be realistic 12 year olds too. #mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @AniProf Pretty much :) #mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #mgLitchat you should read Gary Paulsen's Amazing Life of Birds. It's perfect for a 12-year-old and about puberty. -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore @jennyhan #MGLitChat Shug is awesome! -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore And had that big sister element to it, so slipped some YAishness in there...#mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa @wonderwegian What comes to mind: The Penderwicks. Love, Aubrey. #mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @jjhoutman You got it. MG authors need to make every word count. Lots of strong verbs, snappy dialogue, and action. #mglitchat -8:47 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @KDuBayGillis Every time I see it, I want a Popsicle. Which I know isn't the point... #mglitchat -8:48 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen As an aside, when I started writing, I did not choose kid lit, but that was the most honest voice that came out. #mglitchat -8:49 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #mglitchat has anyone noticed the rash of cupcake themed novels now in MG? -8:49 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf How about Bradbury's DANDELION WINE? #MGLitChat -8:49 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @rachelnseigel or food/ recipe style in general, too #Mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana @story_queen "Chosen by kid-lit." That sounds just about right! #mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #MGLitChat Boy. He's a boy about 12 or 13 who parallels his puberty 2the baby birds growing up in nest outside his window. -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Asimov? Niven? Heinlein? #MGLitChat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @story_queen did you recognize that or was it pointed out to you? #Mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- wonderwegian @KarenninaPosa Thanks for the suggestions. #mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey @story_queen i've always thought TWILIGHT was for adults to begin with. i think kids have better taste then that #mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @rachelnseigel There's lots of cupcakes everywhere! On TV! In malls! It's a CUPCAKE INVASION!! (that'll be my next mg.) #mglitchat -8:50 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @rachelnseigel Yes. Obese vampires are all the rage... (I'm guessing that's where we're headed ;-) #mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @maggiedana Well, the wand does choose the wizard...#mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #MGLitChat Oh- and Gary Soto Mercy on the Teenage Chimps. Also perfect for his age, and similar topic! -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel RT @anglarsen: @rachelnseigel Yes. Obese vampires are all the rage... (I'm guessing that's where we're headed ;-) #mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @delzey: ive always thought TWILIGHT was for adults to begin with. i think kids have better taste then that // LOL ... & true. #mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @story_queen CUPCAKE VAMPIRES! (they suck out the filling) #mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @story_queen #MGLitChat I've seen 3 MG series and counting this year. -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen RT @story_queen: As an aside, when I started writing, I did not choose kid lit, but that was the most honest voice that came out. #mglitchat -8:51 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder @story_queen #MGLitChat Bunnicula had his vegetables, why not cupcake filling? ;-) -8:52 PM May 17th, 2012
- kellypolark @anglarsen @rachelnseigel Well, there is already Fat Vampire by Adam Rex! (though, that is YA! ;) #mglitchat -8:52 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Snarf!!! RT @LaurelSnyder: @story_queen CUPCAKE VAMPIRES! (they suck out the filling) #MGLitChat -8:52 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @rachelnseigel my 12yo is a girl- any suggestions? #Mglitchat -8:52 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey @LaurelSnyder i think this is a question of "true" MG versus "upper" MG. #mglitchat -8:52 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @anglarsen @story_queen #MGLitChat Noel Streatfield did not start out writing for children and yet.... -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- maggiedana RT @LaurelSnyder: @story_queen CUPCAKE VAMPIRES! (they suck out the filling) // which leads to obesity. #mglitchat -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @Bec_AS I discovered it in a writing workshop. Writing in that voice allows me to be more honest about life than any other. #mglitchat -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Define girl, please. RT @Bec_AS: @rachelnseigel my 12yo is a girl- any suggestions? #MGLitChat -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder @story_queen Blood orange being their fav flav #mglitchat -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS @LaurelSnyder love it! #Mglitchat -8:53 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @AniProf @LaurelSnyder DYSTOPIAN CUPCAKES made from cement and filled with Evil Chemicals from the Powers That Be. #mglitchat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @delzey Yeah, that might be. I like that idea. #mglitchat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #Mglitchat Wendy Mass. 11 Birthdays, Finally, 13 Gifts. All same characters. -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Or death by chocolate. RT @KDuBayGillis: @LaurelSnyder @story_queen Blood orange being their fav flav #MGLitChat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @jjhoutman You hit it square on; exactly why I enjoy reading MG. I write it because it's the voice that comes out with the story. #mglitchat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- _TimothyPower I just saw a cupcake mix for dogs the other day! Complete with a Milk Bone stuck into the frosting. #MGlitchat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey i think TWINKIE VAMPIRES makes more sense. it would explain their imortality #mglitchat -8:54 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman @story_queen @AniProf @LaurelSnyder Soylent green cupcakes. #mglitchat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @LaurelSnyder Now I am going to have to double dog dare you to write it, you know...#mglitchat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #MGLitChat and of course @judyblume Are You There God It's Me Margaret is still totally relevant to that age. -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @story_queen @AniProf @LaurelSnyder Clearly you are all defining the future MG trends right here on #mglitchat. -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- _TimothyPower Double dog cupcakes! #MGlitchat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @delzey YES! RT i think TWINKIE VAMPIRES makes more sense. it would explain their imortality #mglitchat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf But they never touch cupcakes made with holy water. #MGLitChat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman RT @delzey: i think TWINKIE VAMPIRES makes more sense. it would explain their imortality #mglitchat -8:55 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @delzey Or maybe that's how you KILL them. By tricking them into a Twinkie? #mglitchat -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #MGLitChat Give her the others anyway- good to see boy perspective, and they r so funny! I enjoyed them immensely! -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore I feel as if our train of thought has derailed. Also...you guys have made me really hungry. #mglitchat -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @JoWhittemore #Mglitchat I second that! -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Or hot cross buns. #MGLitChat -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @jjhoutman @AniProf @LaurelSnyder DUDE!! You did NOT just go there ! But you did!!:) and I'd read it. #mglitchat #gettingwarpednow -8:56 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #MGLitChat So in the last few minutes, anyone got any other suggestions for MG alternatives to the popular YA series? -8:57 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @JoWhittemore Me too, until the soylent green bit...#mglitchat -8:57 PM May 17th, 2012
- KDuBayGillis @JoWhittemore We haven't done zombie books...#mglitchat -8:57 PM May 17th, 2012
- PBWorkshop I've been multi-tasking and stalking, but have to ask: Which harry Potter titles do you consider MG, which YA, in your opinions? #mglitchat -8:57 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey @LaurelSnyder wouldn't a TWINKIE VAMP best be killed by a *steak* through the heart? #mglitchat -8:57 PM May 17th, 2012
- coachhays64 @delzey @LaurelSnyder Do you think we'll ever see a split out of the Tween classification, giving "true" MG its own stage? #mglitchat -8:58 PM May 17th, 2012
- story_queen @_TimothyPower Seriously? ugh! #mglitchat -8:58 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @Bec_AS #MGLitChat And try 3 Willows by @AnnBrashares. Set in same universe as Sisterhood, but girls r younger. -8:58 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf Seriously, I suggest many classic SciFi titles as being engaging and age appropriate. #MGLitChat -8:58 PM May 17th, 2012
- WriterRoss I completely lost track of time and day. I forgot it was MG chat night. So sad. #MGlitchat -8:58 PM May 17th, 2012
- wonderwegian @PBWorkshop The first 3 MG, the 4th borderline. #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @KDuBayGillis That's easy. "Brains for Lunch" by K.A. Holt. A funny zombie love story in haiku, set in middle school. #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @delzey @LaurelSnyder Good question! #MGLitChat Tween is the label they give to the (cont) http://t.co/a9kvXssE -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- Bec_AS Trying to tweetchat from my phone and it's acting up- I'm going to need the transcripts to catch all those titles. Thanks! #Mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey @coachhays64 nope. too much money involved in selling to MG market to divide & confuse. #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- jjhoutman @PBWorkshop I think the MG/YA transition in HP happened in The Goblet of Fire. Specifically in the graveyard. #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- _TimothyPower Jenn Reese's Above World is just out...first in a futuristic/fantasy trilogy! #MGlitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- KarenninaPosa @PBWorkshop The first is MG, the last is YA. Between those is a gradient. #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- JoWhittemore @story_queen Hahaha! I guess it's all just a matter of "personal" taste! ;) #mglitchat -8:59 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel @AniProf #MGLitChat Monica Hughes- Isis Trilogy. -9:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- LaurelSnyder @coachhays64 Personally I find the word tween to be weird-o. I've just kinda always read everything. #mglitchat -9:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- anglarsen @coachhays64 @delzey @LaurelSnyder I hope MG will get its own stage! #mglitchat -9:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- delzey i think the ultimate MG version of YA series would be UTOPIC fiction. you know, a future full of promise... #mglitchat -9:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- AniProf BTW, my adult daughter is offering editorial services for those who need early reviews of their mss. DM me for info. #MGLitChat -9:00 PM May 17th, 2012
- rachelnseigel #Mglitchat 10pm already! Thanks to everyone for a great chat! I think I'm going to go get some cupcakes now! -9:01 PM May 17th, 2012 
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