KDuBayGillis And...it's #mglitchat time! Hi everyone! -7:00 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @AniProf Don't start. I may begin to quoting Sandra Boynton's PB book, Moo, Baa, La La La if you keep that up. #MGlitchat -7:00 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Howdy! #Mglitchat -7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Hope we have animal lovers and MG lovers with us tonight! #mglitchat -7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @elissacruz Er, begin to quote....typos already. This is gonna be fun. #ack #MGlitchat -7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @elissacruz Ooohh, it's been a few years since we've read that one- we should get that out! #mglitchat -7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson Love this topic! I have a fondness for reading books with talking animals #mglitchat -7:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf BTW, just my proof copies for my new MG novel, and I need beta readers. Please DM me if interested. #Mglitchat -7:02 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis So...tonight's topic, talking animals in MG! Timely, with the birthday of Charlotte's Web, me thinks. #mglitchat -7:02 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS I'm excited for tonight! My WIP has talking animals. #mglitchat -7:02 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @Becky_AS I don't have to get it out anymore, unfortunately. ;) #memorizedit #yesindeedy #MGlitchat -7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LoriTussey Hi. #MGlitchat I love talking animals. -7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis I thought to start off maybe we could talk about the types of MG with talking animals. #mglitchat -7:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Hmmm ... ANIMAL FARM ... the Oz books ... #Mglitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis As in, the different types of talking animal characters we've seen. Those who act human v. those who retain animal traits. #mglitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti Yay talking animals, hello everyone! #mglitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @elissacruz I have Tumble Bumble memorized, but there's no talking in that one... #mglitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis I think we have two main varieties: animal-world stories (Redwall) and Talking Animals with Humans (Narnia) #MGlitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis Probably more of a spectrum? All retain some animal traits, all act somewhat human (talking). #mglitchat -7:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower In my book THE BOY WHO HOWLED, Callum's adoptive wolf family speaks, but only what he imagines them to say. #MGlitchat -7:05 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Mike_Jung Hey y'all. Can't stay long, but one of my fave recent talking animals (that retains its animal nature) is the cat from CORALINE. #mglitchat -7:05 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Is there a kind/type of animal MC that works better in MG and why? #mglitchat -7:05 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson There's fantasy with talking dragons - IVY'S EVER AFTER. GIRL WHO CIRC. FAIRYLAND.<-haven't started this yet, does dragon talk? #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Third category would be SciFi, where animals have evolved speech. Or even allegories. #Mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz And, of course, some that straddle the two (NIMH). #MGlitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti So Charlotte's Web, animals talking to and acting like animals vs. Redwall, animals that also wear clothes and whatnot. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @Mike_Jung What is it about the cat from CORALINE that you like? #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @AniProf Ah, yes. Forgot that third category. #MGlitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti And then magical animals/animals that can talk to people. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Mike_Jung @KDuBayGillis Works both ways, I think. Animals that are more human-like work for some stories, animal-like animals for others. #mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf NIMH is SciFi. #Mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin I'm lurking on #mglitchat...and packing for #nescbwi12 #mglitchat -7:07 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WendyMartinArt @elissacruz There's a new one called Mr and Mrs Bunny Become Detectives. Starred review in PW. I didn't like it that much though. #MGlitchat -7:07 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower I love Freddie the Pig books, and he talks up a storm. :) #MGlitchat -7:07 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @Mike_Jung Yes, I don't think there's one type that works better for MG overall. #MGlitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @AniProf Yeah, I just thought that. Seem like it fits in your third category quite nicely. (love that book, btw) #MGlitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 @Mike_Jung Yes, cat from Coraline is perfect talking animal that acts and talks just like you'd imagine a cat would. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson Animals who have a secret world where humans don't realize they talk- MOUSENET, TUMTUM AND NUTMEG, NIGHTSHADE CITY #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil Need to 'fess up that I hate animal books with few exceptions. Need to expand my horizons-did love The One and Only Ivan though. #MGLitChat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @WendyMartinArt Is it the first of a MG series, or a standalone? #MGlitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Mike_Jung @KDuBayGillis Gaiman gave the cat a vibe that felt foreign to/separate from human perspective, IMHO, which felt really right. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LoriTussey I just finished NEVERSINK. Bird-world, but with some human characteristics. #mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Question: Is there an age where kids go, "Ewww, talking animals!" ? #Mglitchat -7:08 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WendyMartinArt @elissacruz I don't know could go either way #MGlitchat -7:09 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @AniProf I never did... #mglitchat -7:09 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Mike_Jung Sorry to chat and run, but thanks! Fun topic! #mglitchat -7:09 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Ditto! RT @elissacruz: @AniProf Seem like it fits in your third category quite nicely. (love that book, btw) #Mglitchat -7:09 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @AniProf some kids do, but others still read if done well (including some adults :)) #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @Mike_Jung That's an interesting point! Thanks for popping in! #mglitchat -7:10 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz I actually loved the Guardians of Ga'hoole Series (Kathyrn Lasky), The Warrior Series (Erin Hunter), and Redwall Series. #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower I was bugged when the Penderwick's Hound said "Bark" instead of simply barked. I posted about it on Project Mayhem! #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @AniProf Hmm, I don't think. They may gravitate toward grittier styles of talking animals sometimes. Gregor the Overlander, etc. #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis What are the unique challenges of having an animal MC or character? #mglitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Funny, there was a time when talking animals in PBs was considered a non-starter. #Mglitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz I should also mention that I don't think of myself as a person who likes animals as main characters. #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis I think trying to find that balance of how much you deal with their fantastic nature. The details can get finnicky. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz The biggest challenge is retaining enough "animal" while humanizing them. That takes mucho thinking. #MGlitchat -7:12 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @rachelgrinti loved Gregor the Overlander, the way Collins made the bats' speech distinctive was brilliant #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @AniProf I think over half of my kids' bookshelves have talking animals. I always think it's funny to hear that comment. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @elissacruz I have yet to find one that I'm head over heels in love with, but I am open to it. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @elissacruz Curious... why? (re: not likeing animal MC) #MGlitchat -7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2012
story_queen The One and Only Ivan was awesome. We are inside of the ape's head...sooo good! #mglitchat -7:13 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin Yes, the dragon talks! RT @deegarretson: does dragon talk? #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
MrsBfromNC +100 RT @deegarretson: @rachelgrinti loved Gregor the Overlander, the way Collins made the bats' speech distinctive was brilliant #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti I think it's because I worry at the outset that I won't relate to them. I always end up doing so, though. #MGlitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf @Becky_AS maybe it's editors who got sick of talking animals. #Mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis In researching for this topic, I came across titles I want to read with animal MCs. SILVERWING and THE UNDERNEATH. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil RT @story_queen: The One and Only Ivan was awesome. We are inside of the ape's head...sooo good! #mglitchat 1st animal book I enjoyed -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 The animal voices @kaaauthor crafts in THE ONE AND ONLY IVAN are exceptional. A must read. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @KristineAsselin thanks! I have a copy sitting on my desk, want to get to it soon #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower In one Oz book Dorothy learns Toto could talk all along. He just didn't have anything to say! #MGlitchat -7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @elissacruz Do you feel the same if the MC is a non-animal, non-human? (alien, elf, whatever) #MGlitchat -7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti Should also mention that while I think I don't think I like them, I actually love a bunch of animal books. #oxymoron #MGlitchat -7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin I'm about halfway! Lovin' It! Really different. RT @deegarretson: I have a copy sitting on my desk, want to get to it soon #mglitchat -7:15 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil Oh, forgot I liked THE UNDERNEATH. #mglitchat@KDuBayGillis -7:16 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Do there need to be "rules" for talking animals. Like, if Stuart Little can talk to his family, should the cat be able to talk? #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
story_queen @gilkatgil @ @KDuBayGillis I liked that one, too. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @elissacruz Sure sure, I'm just curious where the reaction comes from., or if it's any non-human MC or what. #MGlitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin Seems like in fantasy, talking animals is pretty much standard. Think of one WITHOUT a talking animal. LOL. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti No, so isn't that weird? I actually love "alien" animals, I just have trouble with the earthly ones. #MGlitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS Just to clarify, you can totally have "people" books that have talking animals, so you can still like the book from that end. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Exercise: Define what makes a bad talking animal book. #Mglitchat -7:17 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti I think it helps if there's rules. Keeps you consistent. We had to decide in our book if all cats talk or just some #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS Agreed! :) #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti And it's a completely terrible reaction for me to have, too. I know it, and I need to recitfy it. Starting right now. #MGlitchat -7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti When we decided all, it required a lot of remembering. If no cats as pets, no cat food, no cat toys, etc. Finnicky! #mglitchat -7:18 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson don't know how well known this series is-HORSE DIARIES, POV of a horse, each book set in dif, time/place, easy MG #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin If it doesn't feel natural. But that sounds strange, doesn't it? RT @AniProf: Define what makes a bad talking animal book. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @elissacruz I think that's really interesting. I wonder if it's come kind of reaction to old fairy tales? Expection?? #MGlitchat -7:19 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LoriTussey I really like the talking animals in the UNDERLAND series. #MGlitchat -7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower "Bad" animal book=poorly drawn characters, IMO. #MGlitchat -7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Yep. RT @KristineAsselin: If it doesnt feel natural. But that sounds strange, doesnt it? #Mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @mikegrinti But at least no litter box to change! #mglitchat -7:20 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf See, what I need to hear about are the talking animal books you didn't like, and why. #Mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower It's no good having talking animals if they don't have anything interesting to say! #MGlitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @mikegrinti @elissacruz That, and also just regular life subverted. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Hi, #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Is there the same expectation of animal characters to have the same multi-facetedness of people characters? #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis Unintentional pun there, since our cats have transformation magic :D (change hur hur hur :) #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin @AniProf At least you're honest! Maybe it goes back to needing rules to make it feel believable. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck Hi! Glad you're here! So, share with us what it's like to write a rat MC...what were some challenges with MALCOLM? #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti Depends on how they're used. Sometimes they are used more symbolically or dream-like? That can work in short bursts. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf @KristineAsselin Rules ...Agreed! #Mglitchat -7:22 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil @AniProf #MGlitChat I'm not a fan of the Stuart Little milieu. I loved those damn cockroaches in Gregor though...so adorable is not so good -7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin I think it's also got to be about building a rich, tangible world where it's conceivable that animals talk. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @Becky_AS @mikegrinti I don't know. Could be. Never really thought about it, tbh. #MGlitchat -7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis THE CHESHIRE CHEESE CAT is a very, very good cat, mouse and bird voiced book with a Dickens twist. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2012
MaerWilson RT @_TimothyPower: It's no good having talking animals if they don't have anything interesting to say! #MGlitchat -7:24 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WriterRoss There are people characters in novels w/less interesting things to say than animals in scene. I'd rather hear the dog's thoughts. #MGLITCHAT -7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin RT @KDuBayGillis: Is there the same expectation of animal characters to have the same multi-facetedness of people characters? #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf How about Dahl's WITCHES? #Mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis I do think the best characters are multi-faceted, whether they're human or animal. #MGlitchat -7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Can you do things with (or to) animal characters that you can't get away with if characters are people? #mglitchat -7:25 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Thanks for the welcome, @KDuBayGillis! Rat challenges=limited to what a rat can do, see, reach, etc. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WendyMartinArt @elissacruz Definitely need to have 3-D characters no matter what the species. #MGlitchat -7:26 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @coachhays64 I've heard about this title...adding CHESHIRE CHEESE CAT to my list! #mglitchat -7:26 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf RT @WendyMartinArt: @elissacruz Definitely need to have 3-D characters no matter what the species. #Mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil Animals need to have a reason to be speaking, can't be the device that makes the story. Too flat. #MGLitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @WendyMartinArt But all characters are never 3d. There's always a spectrum depending on how they fit into the plot. #MGlitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower Do talking animals need to wear clothes? Animals wearing clothes is a whole other can of talking worms! #MGlitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Agree!-->RT @elissacruz: @KDuBayGillis I do think the best characters are multi-faceted, whether theyre human or animal. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti Gah I am trying to remember the title of a recent book... about a dog learning to live with the new family cat... it was cute! #MGlitchat -7:27 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil @_TimothyPower Very disturbing to my daughter (10yrs old) to see them in shirts but not pants. #MGLitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WendyMartinArt @mikegrinti I was speaking of leading characters #MGlitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti It has a yellow cover. With a dog. Yes I am being one of those people. Can't remember anything else useful. Hah! #MGlitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck Good points! Does MALCOLM interact with humans or just other animals and how did you decide your rules? #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @_TimothyPower Animals wearing clothes is where it gets hoaky for me, unless you dig into the sociology of it... #MGlitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf My favorite talking animals story is in the film RATATOUILLE, where rats are rats, but talk to each other. #Mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @_TimothyPower hmm...clothes-maybe yes in fantasy world, no otherwise, except dragons of course, pants on dragons-no #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown Just joining the chat, are talking animals the topic? #mglitchat -7:28 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis Just read Garth Nix Keys to the Kingdom series where talking rats were used because they fit in smaller spaces. #MGlitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @_TimothyPower Definitely not! In some cases, that's too weird! :D #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @deegarretson Hmm. Good point. In secondary-world fantasy I don't mind it. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
gilkatgil I think animals just speaking to other animals is easier to "buy" than animals talking with people. Why? I have no idea. #MGLitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis I thought that was an ingenious use of thinking about what an animal can do that a human couldn't. #MGlitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Just thought of another title...WILDWOOD! #mglitchat -7:29 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck @KDuBayGillis He does communicate with humans. But by pointing to words. He can talk to other animals, though. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower When I was in animation, there was a saying I heard again and again: "You can't put pants on a duck." #MGlitchat -7:30 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @_TimothyPower how about knickers? #mglitchat -7:30 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @JayeRobinBrown Hi! Yes! #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Eeeewww! RT @deegarretson: @_TimothyPower how about knickers? #Mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @deegarretson @_TimothyPower or a dress? #MGlitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 RT @_TimothyPower: When I was in animation, there was a saying I heard again and again: "You can't put pants on a duck." #MGlitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck Oooh, I like that. So he can read, too. Smart rat. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @_TimothyPower Howard the Duck had pants! :p And there is NOTHING WRONG with that movie! >.> #MGlitchat -7:31 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown @KDuBayGillis Thanks - I'm a fan of animals. Talking or not. #mglitchat -7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson this video is exactly how I imagine cats talk http://t.co/paJyFZjj (have to watch to end though) #mglitchat -7:32 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Someone mentioned devices or techniques to have animals talk in an usual way. Can anyone elaborate? #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti I think what I like about animals is they can be alien and familiar at same time. No outer space, quieter magic than eg. dragon. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Meant "unusual" way...distinctive speech. #mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 19th, 2012
AniProf Gotta run; will catch up w/transcript. I still need beta-readers for a MG SciFi novel. DM me! #Mglitchat -7:34 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis If Colin Meloy's WILDWOOD is half as good at his music, it will be awesome. Keep hounding librarian to order it. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @KDuBayGillis I think speech that references their perspective & what they're familiar with, different ways they see the world. #MGlitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin One of my fave books is THE LAST UNICORN by Peter Beagle. Such a lovely, quiet fantasy. And I totally buy the talking animals. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti And I think that may be why I struggle with them...familiar but not familiar and I get confused easily. ;) #MGlitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @KDuBayGillis bats in Gregor talk in a very soft voice, stretch out certain sounds #mglitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LoriTussey Most of the talking-animal world books I've read have had adult animals as MCs. I wonder why they're not teens or puppies. #MGlitchat -7:35 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @coachhays64 I own it...artwork too beautiful to not keep...#mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower My Project Mayhem post about the dog that SAID "Bark." http://t.co/6HejWSzE #MGlitchat -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown @rachelgrinti @KDuBayGillis Yes, I agree. A dog isn't going to see an umbrella and go "Oh wow, cool umbrella." #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
WriterRoss If we all start with understanding that the world of *and* in the book is a fiction, I really don't mind when animals talk. #MGLITCHAT -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck I think this is probably true for any character--human or no--but I tried to give mine distinctive slang, speech. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @elissacruz Hmm! That makes sense. It's less obvious what to expect, so more initial reserves...? #MGlitchat -7:36 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Becky_AS @LoriTussey Interesting point. Something I hadn't noticed before. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @JayeRobinBrown My dog does not trust umbrellas. At all. He doesn't need to talk to communicate that! #MGlitchat -7:37 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting #mglitchat Watching from the periphery today. I love animal characters in stories. Museum of Thieves is one of my recent favorites. -7:37 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown @LoriTussey That's an interesting question. Maybe because young animals seem so helpless, even to adult children? #mglitchat -7:37 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @LoriTussey Despereaux was a child. #tryingtothinkofotheranimalcharacter. Oh, Wilbur in Charlotte's web was young. #MGlitchat -7:37 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @mikegrinti Yes, I think so. With alien or made-up creatures, I have no preconceived notions battling with my imagination. #MGlitchat -7:38 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @Brucewriting i forgot about that one, yes, Museum of Thieves, talking dog #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelgrinti That's a good point...have flexibility to give the animals a complete or limited understanding of the human world #mglitchat -7:38 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson overall though, these days, I don't think many new talking animals books are published each year in MG #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower Would a talking Hedwig have ruined HP? #MGlitchat -7:40 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis And different taboos and ideals and philosophy and all that, too. Makes them fun to write, and to read, #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Maybe this already said, but there's a diff btwn animals who are stand-ins for humans vs. ones who have their real-life traits. #mglitchat -7:40 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck I tend to like the ones who act like animals (while talking). :-) #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting @deegarretson And don't forget the crow. I will use ravens or crows in a book one day. They are do fascinating #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown @_TimothyPower It would have been a different HP. Crookshanks could have gotten away with it I think. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @_TimothyPower I kind of imagined Hedwig and the owls talking among themselves, easy to imagine Pigwideon's voice #mglitchat -7:41 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown @whbeck Me too, I want my animal stories to be animals stories. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @deegarretson Yet some extremely popular ones, especially series. Warriors/Seekers, Underland, etc. #MGlitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck We sort of touched on it as part of categories, but didn't get into differences in how they "work" in the story. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @Brucewriting Go read Peter Nimble if you haven't already. There are crows in it! #awesome #MGlitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson Me too! @whbeck I tend to like the ones who act like animals (while talking). :-) #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck @deegarretson Lots of mice ones last year! http://t.co/ZCJn7Tnt #mglitchat -7:42 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KristineAsselin RT @elissacruz: @Brucewriting Go read Peter Nimble if you havent already. There are crows in it! #awesome #mglitchat -7:43 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting #mglitchat Has anyone read Neversink? Just saw it in the book store. I could be wrong but the cover led me to believe it is about animals. -7:43 PM Apr 19th, 2012
coachhays64 @_TimothyPower With all the magic and magical creatures, a talking Hedwig may have been too much. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @rachelgrinti I was trying to think of some new total animal world series like Warriors, Gahoole, #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting @elissacruz Thanks. Having read it. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LynneKelly @Brucewriting Yes, that's @wolvertonhill's puffin book! I've heard it's quite awesome. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @Brucewriting Well, actually ravens. Close enough, right? #MGlitchat -7:45 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LoriTussey Got to run. #MGlitchat -7:45 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @LynneKelly @Brucewriting @wolvertonhill Ditto on hearing it's awesome. NEVERSINK. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @whbeck somehow it's easy to imagine mice having their own world, tricking us humans #mglitchat -7:46 PM Apr 19th, 2012
JayeRobinBrown Bye, nice stopping in for a few. But the # of typos tell me it's my bed time. #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @LynneKelly Do elephants talk in CHAINED? ;) #mglitchat -7:48 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @deegarretson Survivors is the new Erin Hunter series-- this one is about dogs. Mind is going blank on others right now! #MGlitchat -7:49 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LynneKelly @KDuBayGillis Nope, no talking elephants! Except in a really oooooollld 1st draft that I thought would be a PB. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @whbeck I hadn't realized Malcolm at Midnight was about a rat, looking forward to reading! #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @rachelgrinti I can tell you (gimme a sec)... #MGlitchat -7:50 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis I think research for MG with animal characters would be so fun, depending on the animal. #nosnakesorspiders #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @rachelgrinti thanks! I hadn't heard of that one. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck @deegarretson Thanks! It's "classroom pets at midnight." #mglitchat -7:51 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti @KDuBayGillis I have a pile of animal behavior and science books for that reason. Also for the cute photos. #MGlitchat -7:51 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting As a kid I loved reading animal nonfiction. Animals seemed almost magical. Animals in stories were then just a natural extension #mglitchat -7:52 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck @deegarretson (I totally start thinking of the WONDER PETS...) #mglitchat -7:52 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @rachelgrinti @deegarretson A new one, Dogs of Drowned City (Dayna Lorentz). Don't know if it's any good. #2 out next month. #MGlitchat -7:53 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck @Brucewriting Me, too. And so much of what animals can do is like super powers--but real. So fun to play with. #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Adding more animal MG into my reading pile. I think seeing how authors deal w/perspectives and limitations would be instructive. #mglitchat -7:54 PM Apr 19th, 2012
SympleSymon #mglitchat I'm a huge fan of the Redwall books. Ok, so they may be for a slightly older audience, but warrior animals kick so much ASS. -7:55 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @Brucewriting My sons love the animal NF, too. Particularly when they are younger MGers. #MGlitchat -7:55 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck @KDuBayGillis :-) I have heard that before. But I've never seen the show! #mglitchat -7:55 PM Apr 19th, 2012
_TimothyPower I would certainly like to understand what the mockingbird that screeches outside my bedroom window all night is trying to say. #MGlitchat -7:56 PM Apr 19th, 2012
Brucewriting Got to run tweetdeck is being buggy. Great chat and topic #mglitchat -7:56 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @whbeck Fiesty class pets, but animal rescue missions. It's cute. And now I'm singing the theme song...#mglitchat -7:56 PM Apr 19th, 2012
deegarretson @KDuBayGillis yes, that theme song sticks #mglitchat -7:57 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz I do like the animal books where animals play huge part in the story, but aren't main characters. Think @mudmamba's MAMBA POINT. #MGlitchat -7:57 PM Apr 19th, 2012
SympleSymon #mglitchat One of my favourite animal kids books? The Mighty Skink, I believe it was called. It's about a streetwise monkey at a zoo. -7:57 PM Apr 19th, 2012
LisaYee1 @gregpincus #mglitchat "Hello??" Is the chat still going on, or did I miss it again? -7:59 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @LisaYee1 We're here for a few more minutes! #MGlitchat -7:59 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @LisaYee1 Some of us are still here...talking animals in MG. Does Peepy talk? #mglitchat -7:59 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz @LisaYee1 We've been talking about animals in MG books. And last minute wisdom to share? #MGlitchat -8:00 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Looking thru my library catalog for new animal MG I've ordered for my students... #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Before folks take off, just a plug for next week...Reaching without preaching in MG. Hope you'll join us. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck Mr. and Mrs. Bunny/Horvath, One Boy and His Dog/Ibbotson (not sure if it talks). #mglitchat -8:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz And, for those who might have missed it, @MixedupFiles is looking for new MG bloggers. Info here: http://t.co/HAsbHn2W #MGlitchat -8:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti RT @KDuBayGillis: Before folks take off, just a plug for next week...Reaching without preaching in MG. Hope you'll join us. #mglitchat -8:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
elissacruz Thanks for coming tonight, everyone! See you next week! #MGlitchat -8:03 PM Apr 19th, 2012
SympleSymon @KDuBayGillis For future reference, when does #mglitchat start? Also, I'm in the UK... -8:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
mikegrinti Thanks for the awesome chat everyone, fun to be back in #mglitchat -8:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
whbeck RT @elissacruz: Thanks for coming tonight, everyone! See you next week! #mglitchat -8:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
rachelgrinti See everyone next Thursday! #MGlitchat -8:04 PM Apr 19th, 2012
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