rachelnseigel Speaking of war, it's time for #MGlitchat and
our discussion about war in MG!
KDuBayGillis Hey chatters! Hope everyone is well this
holiday season. Topic tonight is war. #mglitchat -9:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis I'd settle for any
kind of housekkeper really! I'm not picky! #MakeCleanNotWar #Mglitchat -9:00 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
michaelascotto Tonight's #mglitchat? War in middle grade!
#mglitchat -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis I'm wearing camo tonight to be all themey.
#mglitchat -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Writers, have any of you set your
books in time of war, or tried to tackle this subject? -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis No wonder I couldn't see you!
#mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @rachelnseigel, @adelegriffin and I set our
book during the Civil War. It's mg and ya crossovery. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec
13th, 2012
RosanneParry @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel
Over-run by hordes of dust bunnies over here. Atilla the Grunge leading the
assault. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin How much did you
get into with it? #mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Trying to think of mg war novels and Johnny
Tremain keeps popping up. #damnIhatethatbook #mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor My WIP is set during a rebellion, but it's YA.
#mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel I think it is a very timely
topic with so many families affected by post-9/11 war IRL. #mglitchat -9:04 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis We
should all form a housekeeping army and kill all dirt & dust bunnies!
#mglitchat -9:04 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry Here's a list of Military Families in Fiction
just to kick off the conversation. MG, YA and primary books. #mglitchat -9:04
PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Absolutely! And this topic can
be very broad- takes place during war, post-war, pre-war... #mglitchat -9:04 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 @rachelnseigel Post Civil War Missouri, in the
wake of the Border War between KS and MO. Father hiding from what he did in
war. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @rachelnseigel @adelegriffin
Civil War era shows up a lot in MG with tie into curriculum for MG readers,
right? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 Also returning from war, now that
you reminded me. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry My Heart of a Shepherd is about a boy whose
father deploys to Iraq. Very timely topic for lots of rural schools. #mglitchat
-9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin
Not in Canada! ;-) In Ontario Curriculum, the World Wars are high school.
#mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi Did 2 posts on Nerdy Book Club blog in recent
months @/books w/immigrant MCs--some from war-torn countries
http://t.co/WHQeTy6b #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor It's set in the 3rd century in Vietnam, when
Vietnam was a feudal state that was part of the Chinese empire. #mglitchat
-9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin
Rebellions are grade 7. Don't think they do any war officially in MG, but kids
r #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @RosanneParry Oops I forgot the link.
http://t.co/3MH1dkxL Military families in fiction. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec
13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel it's often
taught in the US in our 8th grades #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @RosanneParry Have heard this recommended by
Sara Lewis Holmes, author of OPERATION YES--looking forward to reading this
one! #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
michaelascotto My last novel dealt with a boy who is pen
pals with a soldier in Afghanistan, & whose brother joins the national
guard #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel I think also Cold War era
counts. Makes me think of The Apothecary. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin
always interested in the topics- esp. Holocaust. (which is a chat 4 another
time) #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Aren't they, though? RT @rachelnseigel:
Rebellions are grade 7. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws LOL! In more ways than one!
;-) #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @michaelascotto That's a good aspect too- kids
with siblings who go to war. I've seen that quite a bit. #mglitchat -9:08 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 @RosanneParry Very relevant topic. Whole region
around local army base feels the fallout. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat has anybody read War Horse by
Michael Morpurgo? Would you consider that YA or MG? -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi Trent Reedy's WORDS IN THE DUST is haunting
and gorgeous--set in Afghanistan. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Saw that today and made me
think we should do immigration, too. But great war-themed titles in your post.
#mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012
MarleneMoss1 My WIP is Upper MG Fant, small battle where MC
uses a talent to warn of enemy approach, gets more involved but doesn't kill
#mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi I've been meaning to read that
one! I've heard great things about it! #mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Another good
one along these lines is @sarah_aronson 's MG BEYOND LUCKY. #mglitchat -9:09 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
michaelascotto @rachelnseigel We only see the boy's writing,
not the soldier's. Helped me to keep things at an MG level without ignoring
gravity #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto OKAY FOR NOW
falls into sib returning from war category as well. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec
13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel So, so good. Has some themes
that make it more YA imo, but so powerful. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws There's some Civil War in higher level pbs,
too. There's Nurse, Soldier, Spy by Marissa Moss and John Hendrix. #mglitchat
-9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor Vietnam has a lot of wars in its history, not
just the recent one. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto That's right. I
remember that now. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @NatalieLorenzi Very fond of Operation Yes.
Sara & I have presented together on the topic of supporting kids of
deployed parents. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi I love his books- it's a
brutal read, but so good! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi Oops- was answering a
different comment I think. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis So how does war get treated in MG in terms of
violence and complexity of political issues? #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis You beat me to the punch! That's
what I was typing more or less! ;-) #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto
I loved this one, & how the brother's PTS syndrome was realistic but
hopeful. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Or is the focus in MG mainly on
survival/coping? #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis I think generally, war is more
abstract- the characters often don't understand it. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec
13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis I think kids can handle quite a
bit of the reality of war. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto
Bull Rider is about the soldier brother who returns wounded. by Suz. Morgan
Williams #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto
#mglitchat I have to look that one up. Name sounds familiar. -9:14 PM Dec 13th,
2012
lisabrowndraws Definitely in historicals there's a bit of
political history RT @KDuBayGillis: Or is the focus in MG mainly on
survival/coping? #mglitchat -9:14 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto
Similarly, @angelacerrito 's THE END OF THE LINE has a beloved uncle home from
war. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis I guess it depends on who's
perspective? A kid in the US sees things differently than a kid in Afghanistan.
#mglitchat -9:15 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Probably depends on the age of
the character too. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @RosanneParry Sara lives in my area--love
her! I was an Air Force brat, & so wish I'd had books like yours and Sara's
as a kid! #mglitchat -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I read one that dealt with PTS that
was supposed to be MG, but really was more YA. -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 What about war in MG fantasy/sci-fi? Harry
Potter builds up to a war, for example. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @CDaleyAuthor I think this would be an
excellent MG. comparative POVs from kids on differing sides. #mglitchat -9:16
PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws There's lots of battle in the Narnia books RT
@coachhays64: What about war in MG fantasy/sci-fi? #mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec
13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Not war, but Jeannie Baker did a
picture book Mirror that shows day in the life of Australian and Middle Eastern
#mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis True. Many of my
students are immigrants of war, so it depends on one's definition of "kid
in US." #mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @coachhays64 I'm thinking fantasy/SF would
allow for more violence on-screen than historical or contemp fiction.
#mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto
@angelacerrito I don't know about US, but in Canada, there is a general
nervousness #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 Would be easier
for kids born here in US to handle--a good jumping off point for fostering
empathy. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel About anything from a Palestinian point of
view. @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto @angelacerrito #mglitchat
-9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws Oh yeah, I forgot all about
Narnia. Warring everywhere. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws I was completely
confused by Armageddon when I was reading those at 9 and 10. #mglitchat -9:19
PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Even Captain Underpants has epic battles. RT
@coachhays64: Oh yeah, I forgot all about Narnia. Warring everywhere.
#mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler Has any mentioned Number the Stars? #mglitchat
-9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 Lots of MG has
fantasy war- ie Percy Jackson. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler Not yet, but that's one of the
best treatments of Holocaust I've seen for that age. And I Am David. #mglitchat
-9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws I think people like to read about war because
it's folks dealing with the extraordinary. Kids are no different. #mglitchat
-9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Want to read NUMBER. Also SHOOTING
KABUL. #mglitchat No one mentioned it yet. Mention away! #mglitchat -9:21 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler You have to read NUMBER!
It's masterful! #mglitchat #mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Fantasy war is maybe easier to deal with.
It's at a remove. RT @rachelnseigel: @coachhays64 Lots of MG has fantasy war
#mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler @rachelnseigel Don't know I Am David. #mglitchat
-9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 I think so. It's
more abstract- kids already know they are reading fantasy. #mglitchat -9:22 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @dianezahler Ann Holm. It's bordering YA, but
I read it in grade 5. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Are there any examples of kids
doing heroic things during time of war? #mglitchat -9:22 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Both NUMBER &
SHOOTING KABUL are fabulous. Also K. Patterson's DAY OF THE PELICAN. #mglitchat
-9:23 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis For me it focuses less on combat
and more on the impact of combat in the community and the family. #mglitchat
-9:23 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @dianezahler I'll get on it.
(Reading CODE NAME VERITY now...YA...shhhhh.) #mglitchat -9:23 PM Dec 13th,
2012
lisabrowndraws Lloyd Alexander's Westmark books have some
difficult violence. They are wonderful. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor With fantasy or sci-fi, it's easier to write
about war when it's non-humans that are being killed, I supposed. #mglitchat
-9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Do you love it?
It's definitely top 3 YA of 2012. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor Like Adam Rex- True Meaning of
Smeckday. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Again, there's always Johnny Tremain RT
@KDuBayGillis: Are there any examples of kids doing heroic things during time
of war? #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Also have COUNTDOWN in my library haul from
this week. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @lisabrowndraws Another option aside from war
in fantasy is books w/ characters recovering from war-DRITA MY HOMEGIRL--love.
#mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @CDaleyAuthor or when there's no real
nationality to make into baddies. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler
CODE NAME VERITY almost seemed adult to me, not YA. #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec
13th, 2012
dianezahler Love Johnny Tremain. I read and reread it in
elementary.@lisabrowndraws: @KDuBayGillis #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis I heard that was terrific! I
just never got to it. #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Davide Cali and Serge Bloch have a beautiful
pb about war: "The Enemy." #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler
They'd probably list it in "New Adult" now, but it straddles the
line. Enjoyed by both #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws That sells tremendously well
with my customers. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws The Witch of Blackbird Pond addresses the
lead up to the Revolutionary War. Also battles with native Americans. #mglitchat
-9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws Never read. Will
add to list. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I was pretty young when I read
Janet Lunn's "The Root Cellar",. but maybe it's more YA. -9:27 PM Dec
13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Want to read
Susan Lynn Meyer's BLACK RADISHES--WWII. Anyone read this? #mglitchat -9:28 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london I write the Dog Tags series for Scholastic.
Military Working Dogs in wars throughout US history #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec
13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat there's a CDN author Kit Pearson
who wrote "The Guests of War Trilogy" which is about the children
sent away from home during war -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler So
true! #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Now there's a book I loved in
middle school. Need to re-read! #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler @lisabrowndraws One of Speare's others, The
Bronze Bow, treats war between Jews and Romans. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th,
2012
CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws True. Not mg, but I wonder how
OSC wrote Shadow of the Hegemon without making several countries hate him.
#mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london I've found the dogs are a good way in to telling
stories of war where there aren't MG age characters #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec
13th, 2012
dianezahler @ca_london What a cool idea! #mglitchat -9:29 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @ca_london How cool! What wars have you done?
#mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis RT @ca_london: I've found the dogs are a good
way in to telling stories of war where there aren't MG age characters #mglitchat
-9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws It's YA, but I adore "How I Live
Now" by Meg Rosoff, realistic fiction about a war in the future.
#mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012
natalierobinLD RT @ca_london: I write the Dog Tags series
for Scholastic. Military Working Dogs in wars throughout US history #mglitchat
-9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel Did anyone ever read The Amazing Story of
Adolphus Tips by Michael Morprurgo? It was a WWII story about a girl and her
cat. #MGlitchat -9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor Fantasy war is so different in
its implications that it's a separate discussion IMO #mglitchat -9:30 PM Dec
13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws I love Meg Rosoff. #mglitchat
-9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @KDuBayGillis Semper Fido set in Afghanistan,
Strats set in Vietnam. A book in WWII and a book in Civil War out in the spring
#mglitchat -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry Great idea! I'll add it to the
topic bank for 2013! #mglitchat -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012
Fernham Popping in #mglitchat to say my 10 y.o. has read
FORGE & CHAINS Blacks, free & not, 1776. Difficult & wonderful, she
says @lisabrowndraws -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @KDuBayGillis I meant "Strays" set in
Vietnam #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA Hi #mglitchat. Showing up late. My MC has a
military mom but war is distant. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I remember loving "When Hitler
Stole Pink Rabbit" when I was 10 or 11. -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
Fernham RT @dianezahler: Has any mentioned Number the Stars?
#mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kellandrewsPA Glad you could make it!
#mglitchat #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @Fernham Yes, that's a good one.
@halseanderson is a master. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @ca_london Will check out. My early MG kiddo
would love. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws I know there's a Civil War Magic Treehouse,
for what it's worth, #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Fernham @lisabrowndraws I really liked
CHAINS! Isn't there supposed to be a 3rd one eventually? #mglitchat -9:33 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @Fernham My TBR list is growing and growing
with this chat. Did you read with her? #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws True. It counts! #mglitchat
-9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012
Fernham When I was a girl, I loved Summer of my German
Soldier. #mglitchat @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Oh yes! RT @Fernham: When I was a girl, I
loved Summer of my German Soldier. #mglitchat @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws
-9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @Fernham @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws I
remember reading that in Jr. High. And seeing the movie. #mglitchat -9:34 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london ponder: for MG readers, the US has had combat
soldiers deployed to Afghanistan for their entire lives #mglitchat -9:34 PM Dec
13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Us little Jewish kids read A LOT of books
about WWII. Not surprisingly. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Wondering if there's any war not yet really
addressed in MG? #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler That's a little older, though. A love story, no?
@Fernham @lisabrowndraws #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA Historical war stories very different than
contemporary. US kids are affected but not immersed. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec
13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ca_london That's kind of scary- #mglitchat
-9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel RT @kellandrewsPA: Historical war stories very
different than contemporary. US kids are affected but not immersed. #mglitchat
-9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Yup. Distance helps. RT @kellandrewsPA:
Historical war stories very different than contemporary. Kids affected but not
immersed. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler @KDuBayGillis Korean? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec
13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Good question. The World Wars,
Civil War, Revolutionary War & Vietnam most common I think. #mglitchat
-9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws And of course, Anne Frank. Lots of Anne Frank.
#mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @ca_london True. Real need for
these stories right now for this generation of MG readers. #mglitchat -9:36 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @rachelnseigel we adults have a role to play in
telling stories addressing this. These are parents/brothers/sisters etc.
#mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws It's YA, but have you read
Annexed? It's Peter's point of view. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws Also a different kind of
story. Hist fic with kids in wartime has potential for adventure, modern just
for loss #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Historical fiction about war help kids deal
with the contemporary reality #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ca_london That's absolutely true- and to give
it to them in context they can understand and absorb. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec
13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @ca_london for
many kids it's just part of normal life - parent gone for long stretches
#mglitchat -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws No, but that title always cracked me up. RT
@rachelnseigel: It's YA, but have you read Annexed? It's Peter's point of view.
#mglitchat -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012
erikwecks RT @ca_london: ponder: for MG readers, the US has
had combat soldiers deployed to Afghanistan for their entire lives #mglitchat
-9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis @ca_london
#mglitchat Should be read about more- help kids understand this. So foreign to
my market! -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws To an extent. Now some kids
sacrifice much but others don't know much about Afghanistan & Iraq at all
#mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RossTime @lisabrowndraws I should note here MAGIC TREEHOUSE
author Mary Pope Osborne appears on NBC news show ROCK CENTER tonight @10 pm
#mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Good one. I had a POW uncle in
Korean war. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @ca_london Would be
interesting to hear a list from school librarian on military base, either
stateside or abroad. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012
erikwecks @ca_london What a different world than the one you
and I grew up in. No war until I was 17 in '91. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th,
2012
rachelnseigel @RossTime Really? I might have to tune in to
that. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws not
"just" for loss. For military families it is their reality. There is
humor, love, heroism #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Has anyone mentioned any MG books that touch on
US internment camps? #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @erikwecks @ca_london Same here- I was about
16 when Iraq #1 happened. My 1st experience with war. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec
13th, 2012
ca_london @NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel Check out United
Through Reading and the Blue Star Families Books on Bases program #mglitchat
-9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws true. If you try
to make modern war adventurous, it might just piss someone off. #mglitchat
-9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis there's very little for MG on the
Cold War, although my Second Fiddle touches on it #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th,
2012
RossTime @lisabrowndraws and you just reminded me: my first
exposure to the Civil War was via LITTLE WOMEN. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th,
2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis That's a good one too- I've got
my CDN hat on 2nite, but a Dear Canada covered it- Torn Apart. #mglitchat -9:41
PM Dec 13th, 2012
kellandrewsPA @ca_london True -- I mean for the child's
direct action in the war. They are distant, so they worry but they can't stop a
plot #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @CDaleyAuthor @kellandrewsPA It's why war in
fantasy and sci-fi becomes a good stand in. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Indeed! RT @RossTime: @lisabrowndraws and you
just reminded me: my first exposure to the Civil War was via LITTLE WOMEN.
#mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @erikwecks @ca_london Ditto.
1991. It felt scary to be so close to 18. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @erikwecks @ca_london My friends
brother joined the military. I remember how scared she was for him. #mglitchat
-9:42 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @ca_london @rachelnseigel Will check that
out--thanks! #mglitchat -9:42 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis SILVIA & AKI is non-fiction
MG--so well done.#mglitchat -9:43 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @RosanneParry The Apothecary too in Cold War
era. I actually remember most as a kid. Reagan era and threat of nuclear
Russia. #mglitchat -9:43 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @kellandrewsPA I've not found that as a problem,
but i also don't write the politics of war into the stories #mglitchat -9:44 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Thanks, Kelly...we can always
save immigration in MG for another time! #mglitchat -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #mglitchat how about Mostly True ADventures of
Homer P. Fig? Gettysburg. -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
risahlymbicky RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat there's a CDN
author Kit Pearson who wrote "The Guests of War Trilogy" which is
about the children sent away from home during war -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RossTime @rachelnseigel My DVR is set. Too much going on for
real time viewing. ;) #mglitchat #magictreehouse -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @KDuBayGillis Countdown was a good recent Cold War
novel for this age group #mglitchat -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
risahlymbicky RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat I was pretty
young when I read Janet Lunn's "The Root Cellar",. but maybe it's
more YA. -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Who has done author visits with MG kids
affected by war reading about war? #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RossTime I know how you feel! Will most
likely miss it thanks to my dog wanting to go out. #mglitchat #magictreehouse
-9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis Between Shades of Gray also a
Cold War book. Quite dark for MG. #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @rachelnseigel I think having more and varied
kinds of stories can help with that fear. There are a lot of ways people serve
#mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis I shelve that in
YA. (Also get snickers from ppl who mix it up with... you know!) #mglitchat
-9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis Not me. But the kids at my
school visits like hearing about the Civil War. #mglitchat I show them vintage
photos -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ca_london I agree! Kids need to see a lot of
different perspectives. #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @RosanneParry I have this one in-progress. I'm
reading multiple books at once. Intense. #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @erikwecks I was 11! It started on my birthday. I
remember night vision bomb strikes on CNN #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ca_london @erikwecks The last 20 years or so
have more or less been times of war. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @ca_london In my pile. Cool visuals! Can't wait
to start it. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws I spent much of my childhood afraid to go to
sleep because of nuclear bombs. #mglitchat #coldwar #thedayafter -9:49 PM Dec
13th, 2012
ca_london @rachelnseigel @erikwecks Exactly why writers need
to engage with these stories. They are part of what it is to grow up now
#mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis
Ha! :-) #mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis lots of rural school visits for
me where deployed parents are common. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Likely to be more war-related non-fiction with
changes to common core standards? #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @ca_london @erikwecks We need to not be afraid
to expose kids to it. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler Ah, I've been trying to think of a title all
hour -- Good Night, Mr. Tom. WWII in England. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th,
2012
lisabrowndraws Come to think of it, the Narnia books were
about real war, too. WWII. #theblitz #mglitchat and the fantasy war as a
mirror, perhaps? -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Yes, especially narrative
non-fiction. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @KDuBayGillis done a few (& worked w/child
soldiers overseas) They often handle better than kids with less perspective
#mglitchat #mglitchat -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws #mglitchat RT @funnypages: @coachhays64
@lisabrowndraws @kdubaygillis Avi's new book Sophia's War might work as a new
Johnny Treterrible. -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler Definitely. MT @lisabrowndraws: the Narnia books
were about real war, too. WWII. and the fantasy war as a mirror, perhaps?
#mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Oh yeah. That's right! Why kids
were in the country to begin with. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws Yes. Lewis wrote them a few
years after WWII ended. #mglitchat He was a WWI vet himself. -9:53 PM Dec 13th,
2012
RosanneParry One of my favorite books for understanding how
conflicts grow to wars. The Pushcart War. Fun but good food for conversation.
#mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi RT @rachelnseigel: @ca_london @erikwecks We
need to not be afraid to expose kids to it. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @ca_london That's interesting. Makes them grow
up faster. :( #mglitchat -9:54 PM Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 @ca_london @rachelnseigel It has been their
whole lifespan. All I had exposure to in formative years was Grenada & Cold
War. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london I vaguely understood
WWII because my Grandfather fought in it, and Anne Frank. #mglitchat -9:55 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws Tolkien was also
aWWI vet. Casts some perspective on Mordor for me. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec
13th, 2012
ca_london @KDuBayGillis agreed, though 'grow up' might not
be the word for it. It's a different kind of childhood, but still a childhood
#mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london Iraq was first war in
my lifetime that I was aware of. (Baby during Vietnam) #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec
13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis A few folks mentioned child soldiers. Titles
that explore that? #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws @RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor when you think
about it, most men of that generation were vets. How's that for perspective.
#mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Patricia McCormick has done at
least one- but it's really YA. Are there any MGs about that? #mglitchat -9:57
PM Dec 13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis I think there are some nonfic,
but not necessary kidlit. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis It's YA, but THE GOOD BRAIDER
addresses child soldiers. Novel in verse--so powerful. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec
13th, 2012
CDaleyAuthor @rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london My mom
talked about being a kid in Vietnam a lot. Always knew how we got to the US.
#mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Soldier Boy and its sequel are
popular with grade 7&8 Boys. -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis What about
@MitaliPerkins ' BAMBOO PEOPLE? #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Maybe someone needs to write Diary of a Soldier
Kid next....#mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @NatalieLorenzi In the right environment Ishmael
Beah's memoir could be read w/ older MG readers #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th,
2012
rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @MitaliPerkins
That's a great one- I shelve it in Grade 7&8 but could work in grade 6.
#mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012
coachhays64 @rachelnseigel @ca_london Too young to
understand Vietnam, but knew many people whose whole life affected by service
years after. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012
NatalieLorenzi @ca_london @NatalieLorenzi Will have to check
that out...#mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london I know it's YA, but Code Name Verity? #mglitchat
-10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london I know my parents
moved back to Canada when I was a baby so my CDN father wouldn't risk draf.
#mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi I've heard of this one. Recent
title, no? Author repped by Adams? (Think it was mentioned at a conference...)
#mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Very recent.
Last couple of years. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Popping in late, obvs conversation is war
books, but what was specific TOPIC #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I just realized it's 10pm! -10:01
PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis Wow. 10 already! We're officially done, but
feel free to stick around. Thanks for joining us. See you next wk! #mglitchat
-10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
lisabrowndraws Books about war. RT @LaurelSnyder: Popping in
late, obvs conversation is war books, but what was specific TOPIC #mglitchat
-10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder War in MG. #mglitchat -10:01 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
dianezahler @LaurelSnyder War in MG. #mglitchat -10:01 PM
Dec 13th, 2012
ca_london @coachhays64 The Vietnam book I did in Dog Tags
for @Scholastic has worked bc the dog made the war more concrete, accessible
#mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012
LaurelSnyder Did you guys read Eli the Good? #mglitchat
-10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012
KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder Hey there...sort of all over with
war in MG. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012
LaurelSnyder ANd does anyone remember a book: Code
Polanaise? Wow. I loved WWII books as a kid. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th,
2012
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Don't know agent--Terry Farish
is the author. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
RosanneParry @coachhays64 Yes! Far reaching economic &
social effects. Every scout master in town on the same deployment for example.
#mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Wow! I don't recognize either! I
read a lot of Holocaust stuff in MG. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012
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