Thursday, December 13, 2012

December 13, 2012-War in Middle-Grade


rachelnseigel Speaking of war, it's time for #MGlitchat and our discussion about war in MG!


KDuBayGillis Hey chatters! Hope everyone is well this holiday season. Topic tonight is war. #mglitchat -9:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis I'd settle for any kind of housekkeper really! I'm not picky! #MakeCleanNotWar #Mglitchat -9:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

michaelascotto Tonight's #mglitchat? War in middle grade! #mglitchat -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis I'm wearing camo tonight to be all themey. #mglitchat -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Writers, have any of you set your books in time of war, or tried to tackle this subject? -9:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis No wonder I couldn't see you! #mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @rachelnseigel, @adelegriffin and I set our book during the Civil War. It's mg and ya crossovery. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel Over-run by hordes of dust bunnies over here. Atilla the Grunge leading the assault. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin How much did you get into with it? #mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Trying to think of mg war novels and Johnny Tremain keeps popping up. #damnIhatethatbook #mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor My WIP is set during a rebellion, but it's YA. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel I think it is a very timely topic with so many families affected by post-9/11 war IRL. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @coachhays64 @KDuBayGillis We should all form a housekeeping army and kill all dirt & dust bunnies! #mglitchat -9:04 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry Here's a list of Military Families in Fiction just to kick off the conversation. MG, YA and primary books. #mglitchat -9:04 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Absolutely! And this topic can be very broad- takes place during war, post-war, pre-war... #mglitchat -9:04 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 @rachelnseigel Post Civil War Missouri, in the wake of the Border War between KS and MO. Father hiding from what he did in war. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @rachelnseigel @adelegriffin Civil War era shows up a lot in MG with tie into curriculum for MG readers, right? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 Also returning from war, now that you reminded me. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry My Heart of a Shepherd is about a boy whose father deploys to Iraq. Very timely topic for lots of rural schools. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin Not in Canada! ;-) In Ontario Curriculum, the World Wars are high school. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi Did 2 posts on Nerdy Book Club blog in recent months @/books w/immigrant MCs--some from war-torn countries http://t.co/WHQeTy6b #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor It's set in the 3rd century in Vietnam, when Vietnam was a feudal state that was part of the Chinese empire. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin Rebellions are grade 7. Don't think they do any war officially in MG, but kids r #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @RosanneParry Oops I forgot the link. http://t.co/3MH1dkxL Military families in fiction. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel it's often taught in the US in our 8th grades #mglitchat -9:06 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @RosanneParry Have heard this recommended by Sara Lewis Holmes, author of OPERATION YES--looking forward to reading this one! #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

michaelascotto My last novel dealt with a boy who is pen pals with a soldier in Afghanistan, & whose brother joins the national guard #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel I think also Cold War era counts. Makes me think of The Apothecary. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws @adelegriffin always interested in the topics- esp. Holocaust. (which is a chat 4 another time) #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Aren't they, though? RT @rachelnseigel: Rebellions are grade 7. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws LOL! In more ways than one! ;-) #mglitchat -9:07 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @michaelascotto That's a good aspect too- kids with siblings who go to war. I've seen that quite a bit. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 @RosanneParry Very relevant topic. Whole region around local army base feels the fallout. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat has anybody read War Horse by Michael Morpurgo? Would you consider that YA or MG? -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi Trent Reedy's WORDS IN THE DUST is haunting and gorgeous--set in Afghanistan. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Saw that today and made me think we should do immigration, too. But great war-themed titles in your post. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012

MarleneMoss1 My WIP is Upper MG Fant, small battle where MC uses a talent to warn of enemy approach, gets more involved but doesn't kill #mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi I've been meaning to read that one! I've heard great things about it! #mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Another good one along these lines is @sarah_aronson 's MG BEYOND LUCKY. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Dec 13th, 2012

michaelascotto @rachelnseigel We only see the boy's writing, not the soldier's. Helped me to keep things at an MG level without ignoring gravity #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto OKAY FOR NOW falls into sib returning from war category as well. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel So, so good. Has some themes that make it more YA imo, but so powerful. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws There's some Civil War in higher level pbs, too. There's Nurse, Soldier, Spy by Marissa Moss and John Hendrix. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor Vietnam has a lot of wars in its history, not just the recent one. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto That's right. I remember that now. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @NatalieLorenzi Very fond of Operation Yes. Sara & I have presented together on the topic of supporting kids of deployed parents. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi I love his books- it's a brutal read, but so good! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi Oops- was answering a different comment I think. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis So how does war get treated in MG in terms of violence and complexity of political issues? #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis You beat me to the punch! That's what I was typing more or less! ;-) #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto I loved this one, & how the brother's PTS syndrome was realistic but hopeful. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Or is the focus in MG mainly on survival/coping? #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis I think generally, war is more abstract- the characters often don't understand it. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis I think kids can handle quite a bit of the reality of war. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Bull Rider is about the soldier brother who returns wounded. by Suz. Morgan Williams #mglitchat -9:13 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto #mglitchat I have to look that one up. Name sounds familiar. -9:14 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Definitely in historicals there's a bit of political history RT @KDuBayGillis: Or is the focus in MG mainly on survival/coping? #mglitchat -9:14 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @michaelascotto Similarly, @angelacerrito 's THE END OF THE LINE has a beloved uncle home from war. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis I guess it depends on who's perspective? A kid in the US sees things differently than a kid in Afghanistan. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Probably depends on the age of the character too. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @RosanneParry Sara lives in my area--love her! I was an Air Force brat, & so wish I'd had books like yours and Sara's as a kid! #mglitchat -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I read one that dealt with PTS that was supposed to be MG, but really was more YA. -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 What about war in MG fantasy/sci-fi? Harry Potter builds up to a war, for example. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @CDaleyAuthor I think this would be an excellent MG. comparative POVs from kids on differing sides. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws There's lots of battle in the Narnia books RT @coachhays64: What about war in MG fantasy/sci-fi? #mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Not war, but Jeannie Baker did a picture book Mirror that shows day in the life of Australian and Middle Eastern #mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis True. Many of my students are immigrants of war, so it depends on one's definition of "kid in US." #mglitchat -9:17 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @coachhays64 I'm thinking fantasy/SF would allow for more violence on-screen than historical or contemp fiction. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto @angelacerrito I don't know about US, but in Canada, there is a general nervousness #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 Would be easier for kids born here in US to handle--a good jumping off point for fostering empathy. #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel About anything from a Palestinian point of view. @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @michaelascotto @angelacerrito #mglitchat -9:18 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws Oh yeah, I forgot all about Narnia. Warring everywhere. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws I was completely confused by Armageddon when I was reading those at 9 and 10. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Even Captain Underpants has epic battles. RT @coachhays64: Oh yeah, I forgot all about Narnia. Warring everywhere. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler Has any mentioned Number the Stars? #mglitchat -9:19 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 Lots of MG has fantasy war- ie Percy Jackson. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @dianezahler Not yet, but that's one of the best treatments of Holocaust I've seen for that age. And I Am David. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws I think people like to read about war because it's folks dealing with the extraordinary. Kids are no different. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Want to read NUMBER. Also SHOOTING KABUL. #mglitchat No one mentioned it yet. Mention away! #mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler You have to read NUMBER! It's masterful! #mglitchat #mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Fantasy war is maybe easier to deal with. It's at a remove. RT @rachelnseigel: @coachhays64 Lots of MG has fantasy war #mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler @rachelnseigel Don't know I Am David. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws @coachhays64 I think so. It's more abstract- kids already know they are reading fantasy. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @dianezahler Ann Holm. It's bordering YA, but I read it in grade 5. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Are there any examples of kids doing heroic things during time of war? #mglitchat -9:22 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Both NUMBER & SHOOTING KABUL are fabulous. Also K. Patterson's DAY OF THE PELICAN. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis For me it focuses less on combat and more on the impact of combat in the community and the family. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @dianezahler I'll get on it. (Reading CODE NAME VERITY now...YA...shhhhh.) #mglitchat -9:23 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Lloyd Alexander's Westmark books have some difficult violence. They are wonderful. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor With fantasy or sci-fi, it's easier to write about war when it's non-humans that are being killed, I supposed. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Do you love it? It's definitely top 3 YA of 2012. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @CDaleyAuthor Like Adam Rex- True Meaning of Smeckday. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Again, there's always Johnny Tremain RT @KDuBayGillis: Are there any examples of kids doing heroic things during time of war? #mglitchat -9:24 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Also have COUNTDOWN in my library haul from this week. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @lisabrowndraws Another option aside from war in fantasy is books w/ characters recovering from war-DRITA MY HOMEGIRL--love. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @CDaleyAuthor or when there's no real nationality to make into baddies. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler CODE NAME VERITY almost seemed adult to me, not YA. #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler Love Johnny Tremain. I read and reread it in elementary.@lisabrowndraws: @KDuBayGillis #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis I heard that was terrific! I just never got to it. #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Davide Cali and Serge Bloch have a beautiful pb about war: "The Enemy." #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler They'd probably list it in "New Adult" now, but it straddles the line. Enjoyed by both #mglitchat -9:26 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws That sells tremendously well with my customers. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws The Witch of Blackbird Pond addresses the lead up to the Revolutionary War. Also battles with native Americans. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws Never read. Will add to list. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I was pretty young when I read Janet Lunn's "The Root Cellar",. but maybe it's more YA. -9:27 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Want to read Susan Lynn Meyer's BLACK RADISHES--WWII. Anyone read this? #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london I write the Dog Tags series for Scholastic. Military Working Dogs in wars throughout US history #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat there's a CDN author Kit Pearson who wrote "The Guests of War Trilogy" which is about the children sent away from home during war -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @dianezahler So true! #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Now there's a book I loved in middle school. Need to re-read! #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler @lisabrowndraws One of Speare's others, The Bronze Bow, treats war between Jews and Romans. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws True. Not mg, but I wonder how OSC wrote Shadow of the Hegemon without making several countries hate him. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london I've found the dogs are a good way in to telling stories of war where there aren't MG age characters #mglitchat -9:28 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler @ca_london What a cool idea! #mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @ca_london How cool! What wars have you done? #mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis RT @ca_london: I've found the dogs are a good way in to telling stories of war where there aren't MG age characters #mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws It's YA, but I adore "How I Live Now" by Meg Rosoff, realistic fiction about a war in the future. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Dec 13th, 2012

natalierobinLD RT @ca_london: I write the Dog Tags series for Scholastic. Military Working Dogs in wars throughout US history #mglitchat -9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel Did anyone ever read The Amazing Story of Adolphus Tips by Michael Morprurgo? It was a WWII story about a girl and her cat. #MGlitchat -9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor Fantasy war is so different in its implications that it's a separate discussion IMO #mglitchat -9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws I love Meg Rosoff. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @KDuBayGillis Semper Fido set in Afghanistan, Strats set in Vietnam. A book in WWII and a book in Civil War out in the spring #mglitchat -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RosanneParry Great idea! I'll add it to the topic bank for 2013! #mglitchat -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012

Fernham Popping in #mglitchat to say my 10 y.o. has read FORGE & CHAINS Blacks, free & not, 1776. Difficult & wonderful, she says @lisabrowndraws -9:31 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @KDuBayGillis I meant "Strays" set in Vietnam #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA Hi #mglitchat. Showing up late. My MC has a military mom but war is distant. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I remember loving "When Hitler Stole Pink Rabbit" when I was 10 or 11. -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

Fernham RT @dianezahler: Has any mentioned Number the Stars? #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @kellandrewsPA Glad you could make it! #mglitchat #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @Fernham Yes, that's a good one. @halseanderson is a master. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @ca_london Will check out. My early MG kiddo would love. #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws I know there's a Civil War Magic Treehouse, for what it's worth, #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @Fernham @lisabrowndraws I really liked CHAINS! Isn't there supposed to be a 3rd one eventually? #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @Fernham My TBR list is growing and growing with this chat. Did you read with her? #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws True. It counts! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Dec 13th, 2012

Fernham When I was a girl, I loved Summer of my German Soldier. #mglitchat @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Oh yes! RT @Fernham: When I was a girl, I loved Summer of my German Soldier. #mglitchat @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @Fernham @dianezahler @lisabrowndraws I remember reading that in Jr. High. And seeing the movie. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london ponder: for MG readers, the US has had combat soldiers deployed to Afghanistan for their entire lives #mglitchat -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Us little Jewish kids read A LOT of books about WWII. Not surprisingly. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Wondering if there's any war not yet really addressed in MG? #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler That's a little older, though. A love story, no? @Fernham @lisabrowndraws #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA Historical war stories very different than contemporary. US kids are affected but not immersed. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @ca_london That's kind of scary- #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel RT @kellandrewsPA: Historical war stories very different than contemporary. US kids are affected but not immersed. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Yup. Distance helps. RT @kellandrewsPA: Historical war stories very different than contemporary. Kids affected but not immersed. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler @KDuBayGillis Korean? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Good question. The World Wars, Civil War, Revolutionary War & Vietnam most common I think. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws And of course, Anne Frank. Lots of Anne Frank. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @ca_london True. Real need for these stories right now for this generation of MG readers. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @rachelnseigel we adults have a role to play in telling stories addressing this. These are parents/brothers/sisters etc. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @lisabrowndraws It's YA, but have you read Annexed? It's Peter's point of view. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws Also a different kind of story. Hist fic with kids in wartime has potential for adventure, modern just for loss #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Historical fiction about war help kids deal with the contemporary reality #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @ca_london That's absolutely true- and to give it to them in context they can understand and absorb. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @ca_london for many kids it's just part of normal life - parent gone for long stretches #mglitchat -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws No, but that title always cracked me up. RT @rachelnseigel: It's YA, but have you read Annexed? It's Peter's point of view. #mglitchat -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012

erikwecks RT @ca_london: ponder: for MG readers, the US has had combat soldiers deployed to Afghanistan for their entire lives #mglitchat -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis @ca_london #mglitchat Should be read about more- help kids understand this. So foreign to my market! -9:38 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws To an extent. Now some kids sacrifice much but others don't know much about Afghanistan & Iraq at all #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RossTime @lisabrowndraws I should note here MAGIC TREEHOUSE author Mary Pope Osborne appears on NBC news show ROCK CENTER tonight @10 pm #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @dianezahler Good one. I had a POW uncle in Korean war. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @ca_london Would be interesting to hear a list from school librarian on military base, either stateside or abroad. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

erikwecks @ca_london What a different world than the one you and I grew up in. No war until I was 17 in '91. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RossTime Really? I might have to tune in to that. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws not "just" for loss. For military families it is their reality. There is humor, love, heroism #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Has anyone mentioned any MG books that touch on US internment camps? #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @erikwecks @ca_london Same here- I was about 16 when Iraq #1 happened. My 1st experience with war. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel Check out United Through Reading and the Blue Star Families Books on Bases program #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @kellandrewsPA @lisabrowndraws true. If you try to make modern war adventurous, it might just piss someone off. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis there's very little for MG on the Cold War, although my Second Fiddle touches on it #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RossTime @lisabrowndraws and you just reminded me: my first exposure to the Civil War was via LITTLE WOMEN. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis That's a good one too- I've got my CDN hat on 2nite, but a Dear Canada covered it- Torn Apart. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

kellandrewsPA @ca_london True -- I mean for the child's direct action in the war. They are distant, so they worry but they can't stop a plot #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @CDaleyAuthor @kellandrewsPA It's why war in fantasy and sci-fi becomes a good stand in. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Indeed! RT @RossTime: @lisabrowndraws and you just reminded me: my first exposure to the Civil War was via LITTLE WOMEN. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @rachelnseigel @erikwecks @ca_london Ditto. 1991. It felt scary to be so close to 18. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @erikwecks @ca_london My friends brother joined the military. I remember how scared she was for him. #mglitchat -9:42 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @ca_london @rachelnseigel Will check that out--thanks! #mglitchat -9:42 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis SILVIA & AKI is non-fiction MG--so well done.#mglitchat -9:43 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @RosanneParry The Apothecary too in Cold War era. I actually remember most as a kid. Reagan era and threat of nuclear Russia. #mglitchat -9:43 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @kellandrewsPA I've not found that as a problem, but i also don't write the politics of war into the stories #mglitchat -9:44 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Thanks, Kelly...we can always save immigration in MG for another time! #mglitchat -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #mglitchat how about Mostly True ADventures of Homer P. Fig? Gettysburg. -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

risahlymbicky RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat there's a CDN author Kit Pearson who wrote "The Guests of War Trilogy" which is about the children sent away from home during war -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RossTime @rachelnseigel My DVR is set. Too much going on for real time viewing. ;) #mglitchat #magictreehouse -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @KDuBayGillis Countdown was a good recent Cold War novel for this age group #mglitchat -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

risahlymbicky RT @rachelnseigel: #Mglitchat I was pretty young when I read Janet Lunn's "The Root Cellar",. but maybe it's more YA. -9:45 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Who has done author visits with MG kids affected by war reading about war? #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RossTime I know how you feel! Will most likely miss it thanks to my dog wanting to go out. #mglitchat #magictreehouse -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis Between Shades of Gray also a Cold War book. Quite dark for MG. #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @rachelnseigel I think having more and varied kinds of stories can help with that fear. There are a lot of ways people serve #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis I shelve that in YA. (Also get snickers from ppl who mix it up with... you know!) #mglitchat -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @KDuBayGillis Not me. But the kids at my school visits like hearing about the Civil War. #mglitchat I show them vintage photos -9:46 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @ca_london I agree! Kids need to see a lot of different perspectives. #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @RosanneParry I have this one in-progress. I'm reading multiple books at once. Intense. #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @erikwecks I was 11! It started on my birthday. I remember night vision bomb strikes on CNN #mglitchat -9:47 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @ca_london @erikwecks The last 20 years or so have more or less been times of war. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @ca_london In my pile. Cool visuals! Can't wait to start it. #mglitchat -9:48 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws I spent much of my childhood afraid to go to sleep because of nuclear bombs. #mglitchat #coldwar #thedayafter -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @rachelnseigel @erikwecks Exactly why writers need to engage with these stories. They are part of what it is to grow up now #mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis Ha! :-) #mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @KDuBayGillis lots of rural school visits for me where deployed parents are common. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Likely to be more war-related non-fiction with changes to common core standards? #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @ca_london @erikwecks We need to not be afraid to expose kids to it. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler Ah, I've been trying to think of a title all hour -- Good Night, Mr. Tom. WWII in England. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Come to think of it, the Narnia books were about real war, too. WWII. #theblitz #mglitchat and the fantasy war as a mirror, perhaps? -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Yes, especially narrative non-fiction. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @KDuBayGillis done a few (& worked w/child soldiers overseas) They often handle better than kids with less perspective #mglitchat #mglitchat -9:52 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws #mglitchat RT @funnypages: @coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws @kdubaygillis Avi's new book Sophia's War might work as a new Johnny Treterrible. -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler Definitely. MT @lisabrowndraws: the Narnia books were about real war, too. WWII. and the fantasy war as a mirror, perhaps? #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @lisabrowndraws Oh yeah. That's right! Why kids were in the country to begin with. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws Yes. Lewis wrote them a few years after WWII ended. #mglitchat He was a WWI vet himself. -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry One of my favorite books for understanding how conflicts grow to wars. The Pushcart War. Fun but good food for conversation. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi RT @rachelnseigel: @ca_london @erikwecks We need to not be afraid to expose kids to it. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @ca_london That's interesting. Makes them grow up faster. :( #mglitchat -9:54 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 @ca_london @rachelnseigel It has been their whole lifespan. All I had exposure to in formative years was Grenada & Cold War. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london I vaguely understood WWII because my Grandfather fought in it, and Anne Frank. #mglitchat -9:55 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor @lisabrowndraws Tolkien was also aWWI vet. Casts some perspective on Mordor for me. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @KDuBayGillis agreed, though 'grow up' might not be the word for it. It's a different kind of childhood, but still a childhood #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london Iraq was first war in my lifetime that I was aware of. (Baby during Vietnam) #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis A few folks mentioned child soldiers. Titles that explore that? #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws @RosanneParry @CDaleyAuthor when you think about it, most men of that generation were vets. How's that for perspective. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis Patricia McCormick has done at least one- but it's really YA. Are there any MGs about that? #mglitchat -9:57 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @KDuBayGillis I think there are some nonfic, but not necessary kidlit. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis It's YA, but THE GOOD BRAIDER addresses child soldiers. Novel in verse--so powerful. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec 13th, 2012

CDaleyAuthor @rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london My mom talked about being a kid in Vietnam a lot. Always knew how we got to the US. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat Soldier Boy and its sequel are popular with grade 7&8 Boys. -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis What about @MitaliPerkins ' BAMBOO PEOPLE? #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Maybe someone needs to write Diary of a Soldier Kid next....#mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @NatalieLorenzi In the right environment Ishmael Beah's memoir could be read w/ older MG readers #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis @MitaliPerkins That's a great one- I shelve it in Grade 7&8 but could work in grade 6. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

coachhays64 @rachelnseigel @ca_london Too young to understand Vietnam, but knew many people whose whole life affected by service years after. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @ca_london @NatalieLorenzi Will have to check that out...#mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london I know it's YA, but Code Name Verity? #mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @coachhays64 @ca_london I know my parents moved back to Canada when I was a baby so my CDN father wouldn't risk draf. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi I've heard of this one. Recent title, no? Author repped by Adams? (Think it was mentioned at a conference...) #mglitchat -10:00 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Very recent. Last couple of years. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

LaurelSnyder Popping in late, obvs conversation is war books, but what was specific TOPIC #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel #Mglitchat I just realized it's 10pm! -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis Wow. 10 already! We're officially done, but feel free to stick around. Thanks for joining us. See you next wk! #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

lisabrowndraws Books about war. RT @LaurelSnyder: Popping in late, obvs conversation is war books, but what was specific TOPIC #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder War in MG. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

dianezahler @LaurelSnyder War in MG. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Dec 13th, 2012

ca_london @coachhays64 The Vietnam book I did in Dog Tags for @Scholastic has worked bc the dog made the war more concrete, accessible #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

LaurelSnyder Did you guys read Eli the Good? #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder Hey there...sort of all over with war in MG. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

LaurelSnyder ANd does anyone remember a book: Code Polanaise? Wow. I loved WWII books as a kid. #mglitchat -10:02 PM Dec 13th, 2012

NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Don't know agent--Terry Farish is the author. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

RosanneParry @coachhays64 Yes! Far reaching economic & social effects. Every scout master in town on the same deployment for example. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

rachelnseigel @LaurelSnyder Wow! I don't recognize either! I read a lot of Holocaust stuff in MG. #mglitchat -10:03 PM Dec 13th, 2012

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