Thursday, November 15, 2012

November 15, 2012 - Hero/Heroine's Journey in MG Literature



DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone Welcome! #mglitchat -8:58 PM Nov 15th, 20       
              
  
            
ilanawaters *Is first girl to arrive* *feels awkward* *starts picking at clothes* #mglitchat -8:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters *hands you a cookie of awesome* #mglitchat -8:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Can I have a cookie too? YUM. #mglitchat -8:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
elissacruz Oh, I'm here too! Don't mind me. I'm lurking over here in the corner. #mglitchat -8:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
Bec_AS @ilanawaters Now @matt_janacone is outnumbered... #girlsareawesome #MGLitChat -8:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
DanyelleLeafty *hands out welcoming cookies* #mglitchat -8:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
AnshaKotyk @elissacruz gots some cookies? #mglitchat -8:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
CandycaneClaus #ebookparty starts in 1 hr with @CandycaneClaus @aleishagore and @augustblue details at http://t.co/2o1X7biC but first i'm doing #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
matt_janacone @Bec_AS @ilanawaters :) #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
DanyelleLeafty #mglitchat is starting now. Come join us . . . we've got cookies! -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters lol I've been here the whole time waiting. ;) #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty See now you're just making me hungry. very hungry #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
elissacruz @AnshaKotyk Er...no....*hides stash of cookies under my jacket* #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
CandycaneClaus Yay! Cookies at #mglitchat :D -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk *evil grin* #mglitchat -9:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ilanawaters @DanyelleLeafty Ooo! Much better than picking at imaginary clothing lint. Thanks! *gobbles cookie* #mglitchat -9:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters Anytime. :D #mglitchat -9:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
Bec_AS @elissacruz @AnshaKotyk I can tell by the box that they are girl scout cookies! #MGLitChat -9:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
AnshaKotyk @ilanawaters seriously. I will now be forced to make these pumpkin cookies(recipe is sitting on desk) #mglitchat -9:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty Welcome to #mglitchat. We'll be talking about the hero--or heroine's--journey. Any good books come to mind? -9:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk @ilanawaters Pumpkin cookies? #mouthwaters #mglitchat -9:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty conceptually Christopher Vogler's book A writer's journey- I don't write without it. #mglitchat -9:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
matt_janacone Are we chatting about book clubs tonight? #mglitchat -9:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Oh, yes. pumpkin, cake like with icing. You're making me do it. just sayin' #mouthwaters #mglitchat -9:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone Not tonight. Tonight we're talking hero's journey. :D #mglitchat -9:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
ilanawaters @aleishagore Cool. Next time we MUST sit together. :-) #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
AnshaKotyk @matt_janacone tonight is Hero's journey #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone you beat me to the punch D. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk ! #mouthisdefinitelywatering #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
matt_janacone @DanyelleLeafty Fine with me. #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
elliefalcone I'm just here for the pointers. :::sits in corner::: #mglitchat -9:03 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty Isn't there supposed to be a difference btw hero and heroine journeys? #MGLitChat -9:04 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
DanyelleLeafty One of my favorite heroine's journey book is The Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland in a Ship of Her Own Making. #mglitchat #yummyprose -9:04 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
elissacruz @elliefalcone :::sits with you::: #mglitchat -9:04 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Like I said I'm very big into the Journey.#mglitchat -9:04 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk So long as there are pumpkin cookies, I'm in. :p #mglitchat -9:04 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
ilanawaters @DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk I have the Pepperidge Farm Pumpkin ones in my freezer right now! #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
LaurelSnyder Jumping in from a hotel in FL! What's the topic? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
lshullinger @ilanawaters lol, you crack me up everytime I attend this chat :-) #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS That's an excellent thought. Would love to hear your thoughts. :) #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
elliefalcone @elissacruz Cookie? #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
JeanGiardina I'm here too but struggling with my own hero's journey of NaNo word count at the same time. *grabs sword* #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina Oh, Nano. I hear ya. I'm sooo behind. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty I remember reading several great journeys of Heros...my favorite is Count of Monte Cristo-recently read again. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters @AnshaKotyk I can see my cookie supplies are low. This needs to be remedied. With pumpkins. #mglitchat -9:05 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
AnshaKotyk @LaurelSnyder Hero's Journey. or Heroine's #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters lol. Lan party! #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
ixtumea Topic? #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
matt_janacone there's story's beginning, then when it officially begins - when hero's journey begins. #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina *sends hero NaNo cookies* #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
coachhays64 @DanyelleLeafty How about Peter Nimble and His Fantastic Eyes for a hero's journey? #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
AnshaKotyk @coachhays64 I NEED to read this! #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ixtumea Hero/heroine's journey. :D #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
ixtumea RT @DanyelleLeafty: @ixtumea Hero/heroine's journey. :D #mglitchat -9:06 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty I think the heroine is supposed to be more domesticated, less saves the world. #MGLitChat -9:07 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @coachhays64 Another excellent book! #mglitchat What stood out to you particularly with this one? -9:07 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
ixtumea I use the hero's journey in my own writing. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
ixtumea Also YA author Joyce Sweeney uses it too in her writing classes. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
matt_janacone Hero's journey is also called 'the call to adventure'. #mglitchat -9:07 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
LaurelSnyder I don't think about the hero's journey. Maybe this is a problem... #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS Interesting. I think there is definitely a difference, but I think the two threads are narrowing closer together. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
ilanawaters *helps @JeanGiardina put on her armor* Go slay that NaNo dragon! You can do it! Plus, the village is counting on you! #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
JeanGiardina @coachhays64 LOVE that one. Who doesn't love a hero with interchangeable eyes! #mglitchat @DanyelleLeafty -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
matt_janacone In screenwriting, the hero's j begins between page 10-25. #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @Bec_AS Frankly, I would like to read about a heroine's journey-don't think I know many. You? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
AnshaKotyk @LaurelSnyder I can't write WITHOUT thinking about it... maybe that's a aproblem too? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
lisabrowndraws Found these infographics #mglitchat http://t.co/7wHaY3Rx -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @coachhays64 Interchangeable eyes for the win! #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
ixtumea @LaurelSnyder No, you do great without using it. So I wouldn't worry! #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
elliefalcone The wording is throwing me off. When I think hero/heroine I think BIG, HUGE. We're just talking mc, right? #mglitchat -9:08 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
JeanGiardina @ixtumea Do you use a specific model? Joseph Campbell or someone else's interpretation? #mglitchat -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters You tryin' to get me drunk? lol I'm already salivating over cookie chat. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
lisabrowndraws here's another infographic #mglitchat -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
ixtumea @JeanGiardina I use a blend of models. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
ilanawaters @coachhays64 @DanyelleLeafty Was that the 1 where they got pecked out by crows? If so, that's why I didn't make it past first pg. #mglitchat -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @LaurelSnyder *confession* I usually don't either. #mglitchat At least, not until later on. -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
AnshaKotyk Looks like Joseph Campbell's work RT @lisabrowndraws: Found these infographics #mglitchat http://t.co/MUxfrKdB -9:09 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
Bec_AS @aleishagore No, but I look more for the hero's #MGLitChat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
lisabrowndraws Didn't attach RT @lisabrowndraws: here's another infographic #mglitchat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
coachhays64 @LaurelSnyder I don't know if the hero's journey carries the same weight as it used to. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
ilanawaters @aleishagore Hey, what goes better with cookies than beer? Except more cookies, natch. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
KDuBayGillis Hi everyone! Sorry I'm late! Was on my own journey from Chicago to Cleveland tonight! #MGLitchat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
lisabrowndraws One more time? RT @lisabrowndraws: here's another infographic #mglitchat http://t.co/AADM3slW -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @elliefalcone I think it can be either. Usually the hero/ine is the mc, but not always. #mglitchat -9:10 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
aleishagore @Bec_AS That's kind of interesting. I may do that too. Are books made for women too weak? #mglitchat -9:11 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @KDuBayGillis Welcome! #mglitchat -9:11 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
ixtumea @coachhays64 It depends on who you ask. I use it in my novels. While others don't. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
AnshaKotyk @aleishagore I use the term HERO to mean either or. Male or female. The hero is the mc. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
JeanGiardina @ilanawaters Yep! Pretty much, if your eyes get pecked out by crows in Ch 1, I will follow you to the ends of the earth. #mglitchat -9:11 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters Tea of course. My hubby's a Brit. ;) Oh and a great book/movie. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
matt_janacone Sorry I relate everything to screenwriting, but scriptwriting is all I've beendoing lately. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
ixtumea Here's a model that is similar to what I use: http://t.co/OBIrdcyW #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lisabrowndraws I think the hero's journey often happens subconsciously, on the author's part. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
Bec_AS Structure ?: With the push to start in mid-action, do you think the "ordinary world" of the act 1 in hero journey is out-dated? #MGLitChat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
ilanawaters @JeanGiardina Ugh! And I will throw your book across the room! Esp. if it involves a kid's eyes. *shudder* #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore @Bec_AS I think it depends--esp. on what the culture views as strengths and weakness and gender roles. #mglitchat -9:12 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina @ilanawaters I just dwnlded the sample to my nook. eye pecking may cause me to move on sigh. it's that good huh? #mglitchat -9:13 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
coachhays64 @ilanawaters @DanyelleLeafty Yep. It all comes around in the end with the crows. Good stuff & worth pushing through 1st bit. #mglitchat -9:13 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
elliefalcone Sorry, I'm derping. Been derping all day. Meant to ask: how big is this journey? A change? An adventure? #mglitchat -9:13 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
AnshaKotyk @Bec_AS Not outdated. I think it's important to have a starting point. a base point to move forward from #MGLitChat -9:13 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
ilanawaters @aleishagore I'm a Yank, so I'll be need coffee. Sigh. Actually, I need it now! *headdesk* #mglitchat #Britsarecute -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
JeanGiardina @ilanawaters I think we've discovered our first difference of opinion. This is a moment for us. :) #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
lisabrowndraws I think all these models and structures are interesting to study, and then to ignore. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Now it's kind of bothering me. My only female role models are mom, sister, TV/Movie- but can't recall any books #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
ilanawaters @AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina Maybe...if I knew what "move on sigh" meant. Enlighten me? #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
CandycaneClaus @lisabrowndraws true for me. i get the gist of hero's journey, but def don't consciously think about it while plotting. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS I think pressure to start mid-action is misguide. More important to start w/ something interesting that hooks reader. #mglitchat -9:14 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
JeanGiardina @AnshaKotyk I loved it. @ilanawaters didn't make it past a little bit of eye pecking. You'll have to be our tie breaker. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
ilanawaters @lisabrowndraws I LOVE it!! #mglitchat -9:15 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
dianezahler Hero's (heroine's) journey is big in fairy tales. #mglitchat -9:15 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
lshullinger @AnshaKotyk @Bec_AS I agree, so the reader can identify with the character in the beginning #mglitchat -9:15 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Yes, start with sometime intriguing-doesn't necessarily have to be action. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
matt_janacone The hero of the journey is the writer when he completes a manuscript. :) #mglitchat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty Agreed. But that push to "get to the action" keeps getting repeated. #MGLitChat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore Most of my favorite books have strong female characters. Loved the Enchanted Forest Chronicles! #mglitchat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
ilanawaters @JeanGiardina *holds hand to heart* I...I feel strangely close to you now. *dabs eyes* #mglitchat ;-) -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters ah hahaha! Cool. I will tell my hubby that. ;) #mglitchat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
JeanGiardina @DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS Agree. I think some books jump in to the action too soon. Need a bit of grounding first. #mglitchat -9:16 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS I know. *makes me grumpy* Hooks can be action, but they don't have to be. Too many forget this. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Ok cool. I will look that one up. #femaleheros #mglitchat -9:17 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
elliefalcone @DanyelleLeafty Agreed. Hitting the ground running can be confusing for some. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
AnshaKotyk AgreedRT @DanyelleLeafty: @Bec_AS I know. *makes me grumpy* Hooks can be action, but they don't have to be. Too many forget this. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @Bec_AS @elliefalcone I agree. Sufficient grounding is so very important. #mglitchat -9:17 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore Patricia C. Wrede is awesome! #mglitchat #fairytales #fractured -9:18 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone Only if he's still standing. Otherwise, it is a tragedy. :p #mglitchat -9:18 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Thanks! #mglitchat -9:19 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
elliefalcone To me, hitting the ground running...I expect great things because where do you go from that? It had better be spectacular. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty I love the hero journeys because they usually involve the mc going Elsewhere. I love the wonder that comes with this. #mglitchat -9:19 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone Perhaps a comical tragedy... #MGLitChat -9:19 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @elliefalcone Really good point-should almost be like a song & have a great build up/ #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws Patrick Carman's Intersect podcast this week with Lauren Oliver has some interesting ideas on varying structure. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty I agree. I enjoy the adventure aspect. The unknown adventure that's waiting for him or her #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
elliefalcone All this talk of cookies makes me want one now. Thanks, guys. =) #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lisabrowndraws Does the journey have to be literal? I was under the impression that it wasn't necessarily #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
Bec_AS @elliefalcone Yeah, guess I better start really slow and quiet, give myself somewhere to go... #MGLitChat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk Yes! And exploring/discovering new worlds. #mglitchat -9:20 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lshullinger @CandycaneClaus neither do i since I'm busy trying to plot out the mystery. Eating peppermint bark now am ready for holidays :) #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Especially the new worlds. I'm a sf-fantasy girl I guess. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws The hero's journey usually involves the character leaving the normal for the unknown. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
aleishagore @lisabrowndraws Absolutely not. It can be mental, spiritual, physical, etc... #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty But you know the structure is strongly used in children's movies. They are the movies I most enjoy. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws No, but the hero has to be pushed out of their comfort zone #MGLitChat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
matt_janacone I'm trained as a screenwriter to get to heart of the story between pages 10-25. #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk Me too! Always have been. O:) #mglitchat -9:21 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore @lisabrowndraws Yes. The journey doesn't have to be on the physical plane. :D #mglitchat -9:22 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
AnshaKotyk @matt_janacone Yes, the script is a condensed version of the novel. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
CandycaneClaus @lshullinger Mmm, peppermint bark. I'm drinking eggnog and waiting for the COOKIES! :) #mglitchat -9:22 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Any good examples on superior use of building new worlds? Beside the obvious Tolkein etc.. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk I agree. I'm not sure why this structure resonates so strongly, but it does. #mglitchat -9:22 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
elliefalcone @lisabrowndraws That's what I was trying to determine. How big of a journey are we talking? Physical, mental, slaying zombies? #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
matt_janacone Which do you ladies prefer? Hero's j in love stories or other than love stories? #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
CandycaneClaus @aleishagore @lisabrowndraws Agree with Aleisha. Definitely not always a physical journey. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore Heh. I think Tolkein tops everyone. O:) #mglitchat I think it depends on what kind of world you're looking for. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
lisabrowndraws @elliefalcone well, I was talking about structure, I guess. a journey as literal OR a metaphor. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty You need to be reading Joseph Campbell! :) #MGLitChat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
JeanGiardina @lisabrowndraws I always consider the story of the Budda to be a hero's journey. And he just sat under a tree. #mglitchat -9:23 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Maybe because the structure is satisfying in a question and answer kind of way. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
dianezahler @DanyelleLeafty It's a pretty basic trope, from The Odyssey on. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
elliefalcone @matt_janacone Good stories. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
matt_janacone @AnshaKotyk Very condensed. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
lshullinger @matt_janacone yes, so that they don't switch channels or leave the theater early :) I used to write them as well. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone In a script-usually there must be a love interest-but not always true of books. It's about a goal or desire. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
matt_janacone RT @elliefalcone: @matt_janacone Good stories. #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @Bec_AS Just checked him out. Thanks for the rec. Looks awesome! #mglitchat -9:24 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ilanawaters @lshullinger @CandycaneClaus Consuming confections is an essential part of the plotting process. #writerfacts #at #mglitchat -9:25 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
JeanGiardina @Bec_AS @DanyelleLeafty And there are great interviews with Campbell on DVD also. I get them thru Netflix. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
lisabrowndraws Another infographic. Star Wars hero journey. http://t.co/S6YcFSoa #mglitchat -9:25 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk I never thought of it that way, but that makes perfect sense. #mglitchat -9:25 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
Bec_AS Me too! RT @JeanGiardina @DanyelleLeafty And there are great interviews with Campbell on DVD also. I get them thru Netflix. #MGLitChat -9:26 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina I keep forgetting that netflix might have these things #mglitchat -9:26 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @Bec_AS Thanks! Will have to check those out! #mglitchat -9:26 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
ixtumea @coachhays64 But it helps to have it mapped out. For me it does. At the recent RWA Nationals, more than a few workshops. #mglitchat -9:26 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lshullinger @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus lol...say that line fast a bunch of times :) #mglitchat -9:26 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ZachariahOHora @lisabrowndraws the Joseph Campbell of #mglitchat ! -9:27 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
ilanawaters @aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty I was going to mention Hobbit. Glad you beat me to it. #nottheonlydork #mglitchat -9:27 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
coachhays64 @dianezahler The old stories. Traditional stories are filled with the hero's journey. Maybe it's why they're so essential to us #mglitchat -9:27 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
Bec_AS @AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina Streaming, too. #MGLitChat -9:27 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @coachhays64 @dianezahler Yes! I think also because they include (usually) both a physical & psychological component. #mglitchat -9:27 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
lshullinger @AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina I had no idea they did! Cool! Thanks for mentioning it! #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
matt_janacone I'd like to turn my mg novel into a script someday. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
ilanawaters @matt_janacone As for myself, I do like a little romance/emotional connection in every story. #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters ah ha ha #nerdsarepeopletoo #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
ilanawaters @lshullinger @CandycaneClaus I'd try, but my mouth is full of cookie. ;-P #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty Ah the great inner and outter struggles #mglitchat -9:28 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
JeanGiardina @coachhays64 I think that these stories tap into something very primal in us. It's why they are so compelling @dianezahler #mglitchat -9:29 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk Yes--those are my favorite kinds of stories. Don't like conflict happening on a single plane. >:) #mglitchat -9:29 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
dianezahler @DanyelleLeafty: @coachhays64 Yes, the hero has to learn something to achieve the physical goal. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
CandycaneClaus Not every story needs to be hero's journey, but it makes it easier for new writers. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters The Writer's Guide to Writing Your Screenplay by Cynthia Whitcomb is great. #mglitchat -9:29 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
matt_janacone @ilanawaters It's nice to have a cheerleader like @ilanawaters #mglitchat -9:30 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @dianezahler @coachhays64 Yes! They also have to metamorphize in order to do what needs doing. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
lshullinger @matt_janacone Interesting! I've been trying to turn a family script into a mg novel (not easy at the moment) #mglitchat -9:30 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @CandycaneClaus Yes--this is definitely only one of many different types of story structures you can use. #mglitchat -9:30 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
ilanawaters @aleishagore Thanks! I'm actually not into screenwriting (yet?). For that, @matt_janacone is your man. :-) #mglitchat -9:30 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
Bec_AS @CandycaneClaus And to piggyback- the steps of the heros journey can certainly be rearranged and skipped. #MGLitChat -9:31 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
lshullinger @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus lol Now I'm eating Ghirardelli Eggnog squares...gee I'm hungry for sweets tonight #mglitchat -9:31 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone The Writer's Guide to Writing Your Screenplay by Cynthia Whitcomb is great. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
dianezahler @JeanGiardina: @coachhays64 Exactly. The Aenead, all those Arthurian legends. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
AnshaKotyk MUST get these!!! RT @lshullinger: Now I'm eating Ghirardelli Eggnog squares...gee I'm hungry for sweets tonight #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
aleishagore @ilanawaters Oops that's who I thought I replied too. :P #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
matt_janacone @ilanawaters @aleishagore I happy I'm allowed to join #mglitchat even though I am a screenwriter. :) -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
coachhays64 @JeanGiardina @dianezahler Agree, the hero's journey is one of the innate and basic fundamentals of story. Old as the hills. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
ilanawaters @matt_janacone Awww! It's easy when you're one of the nicest people on Twitter. #mglitchat -9:32 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
dianezahler @lshullinger Eggnog squares? It was bad enough when Cadbury made Screme Eggs for Halloween! #mglitchat -9:33 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
matt_janacone @aleishagore Thanks. I read Syd Field's book. Since then I've wriiten 13 scripts. Scripts are tricky @ first. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
ilanawaters @matt_janacone @aleishagore Hey, if you're interested in MG, you're welcome @ #mglitchat. Plus, you write some kid stories, I've seen 'em. -9:34 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
lisabrowndraws This chat seems evenly divided into discussions about Joseph Campbell and what we are all eating. #mglitchat #hmmmm -9:34 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
CandycaneClaus @Bec_AS Absolutely. I'll follow traditional journey on first draft/outline, then rearrange as it makes sense for my story. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone I'm a screenwriter too. ;) No worries. 2 books 4 scripts more coming.. #mglitchat -9:34 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty I think the hero's journey is one of the most human structures. Something we all go through to a degree. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
dianezahler @lisabrowndraws That is pretty much how my brain is divided. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
JeanGiardina @dianezahler @coachhays64 Aa well told hero's journey is so satisfying. Even tho (maybe because?) I know how it will end. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Even heroes must be fed. O:) #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone Awesome. His book is great too! #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
elliefalcone @lisabrowndraws Yeah. I'm totally confused. #mglitchat -9:35 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
AnshaKotyk @JeanGiardina Not sure if it's the predictability or if it's wondering how the pieces will be handled? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
matt_janacone @aleishagore Which do you prefer to write? Scripst or books?#mglitchat I used to write books until I discovered screenwriting in 2008. :) -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
Bec_AS I'm trying to remember- is SAVE THE CAT the hero's journey broken down for screenplays and then used by novelists? #MGLitChat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
dianezahler @JeanGiardina: @coachhays64 Are there any that don't end predictably? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ilanawaters @lisabrowndraws LOL. Hey, food and self-discovery is important to MG'ers, yes? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
coachhays64 @dianezahler @JeanGiardina For some silly reason, Monty Python and the Holy Grail popped into my head after your Aenead & Arthur. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
ilanawaters RT @lisabrowndraws: This chat seems evenly divided into discussions about Joseph Campbell and what we are all eating. #mglitchat #hmmmm -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty We definitely go thru it whether we realize it or not. Couch potatoes wait for it to end instead of living it. #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
DanyelleLeafty Precisely! RT @ilanawaters: @lisabrowndraws LOL. Hey, food and self-discovery is important to MG'ers, yes? #mglitchat -9:36 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
AnshaKotyk @coachhays64 bwhahaha. I need to watch that again... it's been far too long... run away... run away! #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
DanyelleLeafty RT @aleishagore: We definitely go thru it whether we realize it or not. Couch potatoes wait for it to end instead of living it. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
CandycaneClaus @dianezahler @lshullinger LOL. I'm hoping for candy cane cadbury eggs this christmas. #notreally #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
lisabrowndraws Now I'm reading up on the 17 stages of the monomyth. And having a cup of tea. #feelslikecollege #exceptforthetea #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
Bec_AS @dianezahler I guess it depends on how you want it to end. :) #MGLitChat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
elliefalcone @coachhays64 Let us ride to...Camelot. Camelot. Camelot. It's only a model. Shh! #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
matt_janacone @aleishagore @matt_janacone I had no idea what I was doing with 1st script until I learned the 3-act structure thing. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
JeanGiardina @dianezahler @coachhays64 I've read books that missed some of the required beats. They sound off-key. #mglitchat -9:37 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
Bec_AS @JeanGiardina @dianezahler @coachhays64 Example? :) #MGLitChat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @dianezahler @coachhays64 *agrees* Drives me crazy when that happens. #mglitchat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone Scripts-definitely. lol #mglitchat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
AnshaKotyk @lisabrowndraws @matt_janacone I live off the structure when I write. #mglitchat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
matt_janacone @matt_janacone @aleishagore I mean the story was there but the structure wasn't, well, not quite there. :) #mglitchat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
JeanGiardina @coachhays64 @dianezahler @JeanGiardina Hahaha. My DH's entire family can recite that movie line by line. #mglitchat -9:38 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
matt_janacone @matt_janacone @aleishagore I'm learning alot about screenwriting through movies on the Hallmark Channel. :) #mglitchat -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
mrsjezell RT @lisabrowndraws: One more time? RT @lisabrowndraws: here's another infographic #mglitchat http://t.co/AADM3slW -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @matt_janacone @aleishagore I think we sometimes forget how vital structure is to story. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
CandycaneClaus @Bec_AS SaveTheCat uses its own beat sheet, but basically same structure as hero's journey with different buzz words. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
dianezahler @Bec_AS I meant ones that deliberately subvert the idea of the hero who achieves his/her goal. #mglitchat -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
Partlyhazy Bouncing between #NALitChat and #mglitchat -9:39 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone Yeah-totally understand that. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
matt_janacone @AnshaKotyk @lisabrowndraws Me, too. :) #mglitchat -9:40 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
coachhays64 @JeanGiardina @dianezahler I can't find the article from a while back taking the strict Cambell-ian hero's journey steps to task. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
matt_janacone RT @DanyelleLeafty: @matt_janacone @aleishagore I think we sometimes forget how vital structure is to story. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty I agree. But if something comes out-don't interrupt to put in structure-go back to it. Let it flow. #mglitchat -9:40 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
aammyyss @Partlyhazy Welcome. How Perfect. So are we. Cuz no romance in NA=MG. RT @Partlyhazy: Bouncing between #NALitChat and #mglitchat #NALITCHAT -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
matt_janacone @AnshaKotyk Yep, great for romantic comedies/dramas and family-type movies. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
jaimetem @lisabrowndraws If only this was a #cannibalmglitchat we could talk about writing while eating bowls of Joseph Campbell soup. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore For sure it's best to tidy things up during edits. #necessaryevil #mglitchat -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
JeanGiardina @Bec_AS Hate to give current examples...but Incarceron comes to mind. Almost fab but something was missing for me. #mglitchat -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
Bec_AS @dianezahler That's how I felt Hunger Games ended, but it's pretty subjective. Others would say goals were met. #MGLitChat -9:41 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
lshullinger @DanyelleLeafty I read The Particular Sadness of Lemon Cake and found it to be a bit off the beat...anyone read that? #mglitchat -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
matt_janacone @AnshaKotyk Some writers read alot of books. I watch alot of movies. :) #mglitchat Always analysing movies. :) -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
ilanawaters MT @jaimetem: @lisabrowndraws We could talk about writing while eating bowls of Joseph Campbell soup. #mglitchat -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lshullinger Not yet, but the title sounds awesome! #mglitchat -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
JeanGiardina @Partlyhazy Welcome! #mglitchat -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
lisabrowndraws @jaimetem #cannibalmglitchat is on Saturday nights. #mglitchat @LaurelSnyder is writing a book about the Donner party #yum -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Yep #ifyoubuildittheywillcome #mglitchat -9:42 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone I do both. Read a lot watch a lot.. #mglitchat -9:43 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
Bec_AS @JeanGiardina Don't know that one. Just was wondering what missed steps made it not good- to know what's uber important #MGLitChat -9:43 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore Of course, #theymightcomewithpitchforksandtorches. >:) #redpenofdoom #mglitchat -9:43 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
aleishagore More hero/heroine books you recommend?? #mglitchat -9:44 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
lshullinger @lisabrowndraws @jaimetem @LaurelSnyder eek..the Donner party..now that's an eerie story #mglitchat -9:44 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
DanyelleLeafty Forgot who asked, but Patricia McKillip's Riddle-Master has some awesome world building too and is def hero journey. #mglitchat -9:44 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
lisabrowndraws @lshullinger @DanyelleLeafty I read it. Liked. But it's not the structural-est book I ever read #thatsok but #reasonitsnotforkids #mglitchat -9:45 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore I'm enjoying the Guardians of Childhood series by William Joyce right now. #mglitchat -9:45 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
JeanGiardina @Bec_AS I think that the hero's relationship with his/her environment is important on a physical journey. Fell flat there. #mglitchat -9:45 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore @DanyelleLeafty Great! Thanks! #mglitchat -9:46 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
matt_janacone I watch alot of movies. :) #mglitchat Always analysing movies. :) Possible side effects of being readers, screenwriters http://t.co/clN5b7pC -9:46 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
Bec_AS @aleishagore I like Garth Nix, Keys to the Kingdom #MGLitChat -9:46 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Agree re:structure. Yes, this one is adult fantasy, but very good #worldbuilding #mglitchat -9:46 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
dianezahler @aleishagore It's been a while since I read them, but the Ursula Leguin Wizard of Earthsea books fit, I think (worldbuiding too) #mglitchat -9:46 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore The sequel to Girl Who Circumnavigated Fairyland is also awesome. #mglitchat #yummyprose -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
JeanGiardina @jaimetem With this joke, Jaime wins Twitter tonight! #mglitchat @lisabrowndraws -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
Bec_AS @JeanGiardina Interesting thought. Noted for myself. :) #MGLitChat -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore @Bec_AS Cool-thanks! #mglitchat -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
matt_janacone @aleishagore I'm a huge John Hughes fan! #mglitchat -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
lisabrowndraws Best examples of literal journey books? mg in particular? I like the Earthsea Trilogy by Ursula Le Guin #mglitchat -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012           
              
              
AnshaKotyk @DanyelleLeafty I'll have to try this yummy prose... I'm in sore need of some yumminess lately. #mglitchat #yummyprose -9:47 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore OH! Now I remember! The Wizard Children of Finn. Do you? #mglitchat -9:48 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @AnshaKotyk I've found that #yummyprose tends to make everything else so much better. #mglitchat O:) -9:48 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Would the Oz books count? #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
aleishagore Witch of Blackbird Pond. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone Me too. Also Cohen Bros. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lisabrowndraws For sure. RT @DanyelleLeafty: @lisabrowndraws Would the Oz books count? #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
AnshaKotyk That's another one that's on my to-read listRT @aleishagore: Witch of Blackbird Pond. #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @aleishagore Loved this one! #mglitchat -9:49 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
CandycaneClaus In series, is journey across whole series or is each book a journey within a larger journey? #mglitchat -9:50 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
dianezahler My Side of the Mountain is sort of a journey/quest, too. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Harry Potter also makes use of the Hero's Journey, but gets more mature as it goes on. #mglitchat -9:50 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
aleishagore Classics 1984 and Brave New World #mglitchat -9:50 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
lshullinger @aleishagore Oh, I just got that book. Haven't read it yet. What about the Sharon Creech books...lots of journeys there #mglitchat -9:50 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
lisabrowndraws To digress a little, you all need to read this excellent post about mg and ya http://t.co/UH9Xmk51 by @medinger #mglitchat -9:51 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
Bec_AS @CandycaneClaus Each book should stand alone with it's own journey #MGLitChat -9:51 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @CandycaneClaus I think it depends on how it's structured. :) Both work. #mglitchat -9:51 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
lisabrowndraws @DanyelleLeafty what does gets more mature mean? #mglitchat -9:51 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
aleishagore @lshullinger I'll have to look at those. :) Thanks. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
JeanGiardina I love Adam Gidwitz's books (but they are not for @ilanawater, since she has an issue with dismembering children in fiction). #mglitchat -9:52 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
Bec_AS @lisabrowndraws @DanyelleLeafty {Insert x-rated joke here} #MGLitChat -9:52 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Starts MG and becomes YA as Harry ages--themes, etc. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
lisabrowndraws Of course, Voyage of the Dawn Treader. #mglitchat -9:52 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
matt_janacone @aleishagore Also like Nora Ephron, Nancy Meyers, and Woody Allen. #mglitchat -9:53 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
Bec_AS @JeanGiardina @ilanawater But is okay with it in real life??? #MGLitChat -9:53 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
lisabrowndraws Gotcha. I thought you meant it wasn't a journey anymore! RT @DanyelleLeafty: @lisabrowndraws Starts MG becomes YA as Harry ages #mglitchat -9:53 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @ilanawater Love these books too! #mglitchat -9:53 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @lisabrowndraws Yes, definitely still a journey. I think the journey actually deepens in some ways as the series goes on. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
DayseD RT @lisabrowndraws: Of course, Voyage of the Dawn Treader. #mglitchat -9:54 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
ilanawaters @lshullinger @aleishagore OMG--just discovering her novels (late bloomer here) and I LOVE her!! #sCREECH #mglitchat -9:55 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
JeanGiardina @Bec_AS I'm pretty sure that she's against it IRL too. :) @ilanawaters #mglitchat -9:55 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ilanawaters @JeanGiardina Too late. I'm insulted and never speaking to you again. *sobs* *turns away* #mglitchat -9:55 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
AnshaKotyk @ilanawaters hey come back, you have cookies. #mglitchat -9:56 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
lshullinger @ilanawaters @aleishagore me, too! I've read some of them several times :) #mglitchat -9:56 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
ilanawaters Yes! NO cliffhangers! RT @Bec_AS: @CandycaneClaus Each book should stand alone with it's own journey #MGLitChat -9:56 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws @jaimetem Well, NOW I am. #mglitchat -9:57 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
ilanawaters @JeanGiardina C'mon, am I really alone in that? *queasy* #mglitchat -9:57 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
elissacruz So, I had unexpected visitors on my doorstep and I missed most of the chat. Any cookies left? #mglitchat -9:57 PM Nov 15th, 2012              
              
              
lisabrowndraws I will illustrate the chapter openers. RT @LaurelSnyder: @lisabrowndraws @jaimetem Well, NOW I am. #mglitchat -9:57 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
ilanawaters @DanyelleLeafty @JeanGiardina @ilanawater I AM A PLURAL, DAMMIT!! #notreallymad #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
Bec_AS @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus Nobody likes a "to be continued" with NO closure! #MGLitChat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters @JeanGiardina To be fair, the narrator warns when it's coming to a scary/squeamish part. >:) #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012      
              
              
AnshaKotyk @elissacruz I'm making some tomorrow! I'll have to send you some! #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
lisabrowndraws Stuart. Little. RT @Bec_AS: @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus Nobody likes a "to be continued" with NO closure! #MGLitChat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
ilanawaters @AnshaKotyk *sniff* Well, okay. I'll come back...for cookies *takes entire plate* *sulks* #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters @JeanGiardina @ilanawater I want to be a plural when I grow up. So far, have only achieved ROYAL WE. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
lshullinger @ilanawaters @JeanGiardina no, no, no. You're definitely not alone..eye pecking out would make me stop reading for sure! #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
aleishagore I gotta go to my #ebookparty but I wanted to tell you BOTH my books are FREE on Amazon right now. #mglitchat -9:58 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws @jaimetem Paranormal Donner party book. GO! #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
matt_janacone RT @aleishagore: I gotta go to my #ebookparty but I wanted to tell you BOTH my books are FREE on Amazon right now. #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012             
              
              
DanyelleLeafty RT @lisabrowndraws: Stuart. Little. RT @Bec_AS: @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus Nobody likes a "to be continued" with NO closure! #MGLitChat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012   
              
              
lisabrowndraws Which is def a hero's journey BTW, RT @lisabrowndraws: Stuart. Little. RT @Bec_AS: @ilanawaters @CandycaneClaus #MGLitChat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
matt_janacone Nice chatting with y'all. :) #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012       
              
              
lisabrowndraws @LaurelSnyder @jaimetem Donner Party was on a journey #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012          
              
              
AnshaKotyk @matt_janacone @aleishagore #mglitchat have a good night! #ebookparty #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012
              
              
ilanawaters @Bec_AS @CandycaneClaus Exactly! I hate it on Law and Order, and I hate it in books! #grrr #deathtocliffhangers #mglitchat -9:59 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
aleishagore @matt_janacone You too! :) Thanks for all the suggestions everyone! ;) #mglitchat -10:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012         
              
              
ilanawaters @matt_janacone You too! *waves* Take care. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
ilanawaters Bwa-ha-ha! RT @DanyelleLeafty: @JeanGiardina I want to be a plural when I grow up. So far, have only achieved ROYAL WE. #mglitchat -10:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012 
              
              
dianezahler And they acheived their goal. Some of them, anyway. @lisabrowndraws: @LaurelSnyder @jaimetem Donner Party was on a journey #mglitchat -10:00 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
AnshaKotyk I'm off to pull the transcript now. Great chat!! #mglitchat -10:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012    
              
              
Bec_AS @lshullinger @ilanawaters @JeanGiardina I remember being traumatized as a child when I saw a bit of Hitchcock's The Birds on TV #MGLitChat -10:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
ilanawaters V. cool. Thanks! RT @aleishagore: I gotta go to my #ebookparty but wanted to tell you BOTH my books are FREE on Amazon right now. #mglitchat -10:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012        
              
              
DanyelleLeafty @ilanawaters O:) #mglitchat -10:01 PM Nov 15th, 2012     
              
              
JeanGiardina @ilanawaters No. You are the normal one here. I'm the one who started reading Stephen King in 7th grade. #damaged #mglitchat -10:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012            
              
              
CandycaneClaus Thanks for the #mglitchat. Heading over to the #ebookparty with @aleishagore and @augustblue #joinus -10:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012  
              
              
elissacruz I'm clueless about these convos now that I missed most of chat, so I think I'll head out. No formal chat next week, remember! #mglitchat -10:02 PM Nov 15th, 2012 

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