Thursday, August 23, 2012

August 23, 2012--Loud vs. Quiet Books in MG


KDuBayGillis Hey everyone! Time for #mglitchat! Tonight's topic, quiet v. loud MG books -7:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012

 
KDuBayGillis @elissacruz Nice singing! #mglitchat -7:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
michaelascotto Interested in tonight's #mglitchat topic: quiet v loud MG books #mglitchat -7:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder I'm a LOUD author of relatively quiet books... #mglitchat -7:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis To kick things off, I think it might be good to have people throw out their thoughts on what loud means and what quiet means. #mglitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
AngelinaCHansen Yay! I remembered. Even though I can only stay for half an hour. Looking forward to the discussion. #mglitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn So, what exactly is a quiet book? ;) #mglitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn Figured I'd start with the big question. heehee... #mglitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis I'm classically trained, you know. ;) #MGlitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble #mglitchat I like 'em loud -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti Are we talking like, books with small scopes and books with large scopes?? #mglitchat -7:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder Love that. How do you define quiet? #mglitchat -7:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone My computer clock is off. #mglitchat -7:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @AngelinaCHansen Welcome! #mglitchat -7:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @LaurelSnyder And I'm a quiet author of relatively loud books #mglitchat -7:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss I like to read the quiet stories, write the loud, action & adventure types! #mglitchat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @mikegrinti That could be one way to look at it. Loud = large scope. Quiet = small scope. #mglitchat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz To me, loud books tend to be focused more on plot, while quiet ones are focused on character. It's a spectrum, though. #MGlitchat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung I'm an extremely loud author of an extremely loud book... #mglitchat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Are loud books full of action and quiet are internal struggles? #MGLitChat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis I think this should be an interesting chat on the heels of last wk's action/adventure chat. #mglitchat -7:04 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn My best guess is loud=action, Big Things Happen, and quiet=not so much action, little things (though important) happen. ??? #mglitchat -7:05 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Quiet = predominantly character driven - Loud = predominantly plot driven ... I think. #mglitchat -7:05 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
lisabrowndraws How about some concrete examples, guys? #mglitchat -7:05 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JennRHubbard The #mglitchat is on right now, to discuss middle-grade lit. -7:05 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters HELLO EVERYONE! NICE TO SEE YOU AGAIN!! *pause* Too loud? #MGlitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @Mike_Jung That I cannot wait to read! #mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz I am both quiet and loud, and I write both, too. #awomanofmanytalents #ornoneatall #MGlitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites Hmm quiet is the kind of story that makes me curl up in my head with the characters. #mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil I've found quiet books can become loud - THe Underneath for example? #mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
   
dianezahler @gailecn I think you're right. My early books were rejected for being "too quiet" -- by which I think eds meant "not enuf action" #mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone Took the question right out of my mouth. RT @lisabrowndraws: How about some concrete examples, guys? #mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen Do publishers use the term "loud" when describing books? I've only heard "quiet"...#mglitchat -7:06 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Wot Elissa said ... RT @elissacruz: ... loud books focus more on plot, while quiet ones focuse on character. Its a spectrum, tho #mglitchat -7:07 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites & Loud is the kind of book that pulls me in so I'm enveloped in the story where in quiet I feel I'm pulling the story inside me. #mglitchat -7:07 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
librarygrl2 RT @LaurelSnyder: I'm a LOUD author of relatively quiet books... #mglitchat -7:07 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung I think loud books need the quiet parts too. I love sound effects & capitalization, but the characters MUST have inner lives too. #mglitchat -7:07 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz Example: Percy Jackson=loud. The Penderwicks=quiet. #Ithink #MGlitchat -7:07 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @lisabrowndraws can we call Beverly Cleary quiet and Rick Riordan loud? #mglitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung @KDuBayGillis Aw, thanks. :) #mglitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Do "loud" books tend to go over better at the MG level? Do boys prefer "loud" books? #MGLitChat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone Just curious but could loud be considered more commercial and quiet not so much? #mglitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @Mike_Jung And quiet books need a spark of loudness, too. #MGlitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
dianezahler @story_queen Isn't "quiet" almost always used as a negative? "Loud" is what's often wanted, but doesn't sound so good... #mglitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @elissacruz good examples #mglitchat -7:08 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn Mockingbird by Kathryn Erskine...that one seemed "quiet" to me. Such a good book. #mglitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong I find all Rick Riordon books to be a little too loud for me #mglitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @elliefalcone I've heard this. Loud= more commercial and Quiet = more literary #mglitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen @elissacruz I think that makes sense to me. #mglitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil How about Wonder? seems quiet to me but strong strong strong #mglitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @dianezahler @gailecn That's a shame, b/c I remember loving some "quiet" books as a kid. "Danny, Champion of the World"...#MGlitchat -7:09 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @dianezahler @gailecn ..."A Blue-Eyed Daisy", etc. #MGlitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Okay For Now = quiet (awesomeness) and Rick Riordan's stuff = loud. Both have to have CD but PD's pace moves faster #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Award winning books often seem to be the quiet ones. #MGLitChat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung @elissacruz Exactly. WHEN YOU REACH ME is a prototypical quiet book in some ways, but it also contains big, splashy concepts. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
michaelascotto @gilkatgil That's funny, I started to type Wonder as a quiet suggestion and then deleted it #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KarenninaPosa Hi everyone! Jumping right in... too loud & I put book down for a rest RT @Mike_Jung I think loud books need the quiet parts too. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Me too RT @Jenlinlong: I find all Rick Riordon books to be a little too loud for me #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen @dianezahler I think you are right.I think sometimes a quite book might be harder to market..at least that's what I've been told. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis I'm reading FAKE MUSTACHE with my 7 year old. Going with loud on this one, but starting off quiet, I think. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
rachelgrinti @Mike_Jung I think so, too. Those quiet spaces where the characters have some breathing room are important. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil What about Hugo Cabret? Would that be loud or quiet? #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
dianezahler @ilanawaters I loved quiet books too. I think that's why I wrote that way. But it's hard to sell. #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
WendyMartinArt I'm reading a quiet book right now. "Tink" #mglitchat -7:10 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong Rebecca Stead masters the quiet book that has brilliant loud parts just when you need it. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @PippaBayliss I like this defintion! U think shyer, more introverted readers would gravitate towards "quiet?" I know I did. #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil We spend so much time in Hugo's head, I would almost see it as a quiet book. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @gilkatgil It's small in scope... quiet just doesn't fit b/c character isn't, but I think it fits the given definition. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @Mike_Jung And I think Savvy has that commercial concept but has so much "quietness" too. Another master of the quiet with loud. #MGlitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone I think Rebecca Stead has mastered a lot of things. She's just awesome. #mglitchat -7:11 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @ilanawaters I've always been introverted, and I loved both kinds of books. Lived vicariously thru the loud ones, I think;) #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @garbergrumble @lisabrowndraws OMG I love Beverly Cleary! *starts hyperventilating* Just goes 2 show a quiet book can take hold. #MGlitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil @jessStorkwrites I think many nuanced books - like people - are both extroverted and introverted, no? #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @KDuBayGillis Yay! I love FAKE MUSTACHE. Hilarious chase scene. Your 7 year old has great taste. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen I guess I don't see it as quiet vs loud as much as very commercial vs....not? #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KarenninaPosa @ilanawaters Or maybe shyer readers may also like to experience a loud life vicariously. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil tough one, literary with nice moments of loud. #mglitchat -7:12 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung @elissacruz Oh yeah, SAVVY is a great example! #mglitchat -7:13 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz I love loud books, but I find the quiet ones with loud splashes tend to stick with me longer. #MGlitchat -7:13 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti I hear there can be some push at the editorial level to take some of the quiet moments out of mostly-loud books. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis So it sounds as if we are agreeing that loud books can and should have quiet parts and quiet can and should have bursts of loud. #mglitchat -7:13 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @dianezahler That's part of why I love indie pubbing. I could put out a "quiet" book if I wanted. Though oddly enough, the... #MGlitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong A Monster Calls is a loud book with heartbreaking quiet parts. So unique #mglitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @dianezahler ...one I just put out is "loud." Er, I think it is, anyway. :-) #MGlitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil As a reader, I think I prefer books with both qualities. I hate the glare of too loud and snooze with too quiet. #mglitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi Back from Italy today so don't know how long I'll be awake, but re: Mike's book, it's a page-turner w/heart--loud & quiet parts! #mglitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kingdomofpatria I think I need some examples. What's a paradigmatic loud MG? #mglitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @KarenninaPosa ------>@gailecn already beat you to this thought! #MGlitchat -7:14 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil I guess it's just the illustrations that does it for me. They get you inside Hugo's head so much. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @ilanawaters maybe coz they're deeper thinkers? Complex character/s and simpler story = more emotional involvement perhaps #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone RT @elissacruz: I love loud books, but I find the quiet ones with loud splashes tend to stick with me longer. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung I think the best books spit in the eye of this kind of categorization, though. A WRINKLE IN TIME, at its heart, is all about Meg. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @gilkatgil Yes...I like a bit of both in books. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
dianezahler @ilanawaters So how are you defining "quiet" and "loud"? #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis So, for folks who are working on quiet books, how are you adding bursts of loud to your books? #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung @NatalieLorenzi I adore you. :) #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @Jenlinlong I would have called A MONSTER CALLS quiet and Ness's CHAOS series loud. #mglitchat -7:15 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @ilanawaters @KarenninaPosa :D B/c great minds think alike, right? #mglitchat -7:16 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @elissacruz Haha. That's a great way to put it. #mglitchat -7:16 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen @gilkatgil I think publishers fear the snooze factor, definitely. #mglitchat -7:16 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil @elissacruz Yes - I feel the same way. The splash of loud doesn't linger. #mglitchat -7:16 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Good question! RT @KDuBayGillis: So, for folks who are working on quiet books, how are you adding bursts of loud to your books? #MGLitChat -7:16 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone I thought I wrote quiet but I now think I have a combination. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KarenninaPosa @ilanawaters @gailecn I noticed :) slow fingers tonight. lol #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA Hi #mglitchat. I've been quiet so far, we'll see if I get to loud #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina I'm write quiet but am forcing my MC to confront some loud situations. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @KDuBayGillis I'm writing a quiet book, and when I figure it out I'll let you know. Don't hold your breath, though. ;) #MGlitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @PippaBayliss I like this line of thinking! You=smart! You must be introverted. ;-) #MGlitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @NatalieLorenzi Dunno! Sometimes there's a feeling that fast books should always be fast-fast-fast? Matter of taste in pacing... #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Maybe quiet books have the stigma of kids not being able to get into them since they are "waiting for something to happen" #MGLitChat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @story_queen @gilkatgil true but its the quiet backlist that often pays the bills. #mglitchat -7:17 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis I always think my books are loud and then get told they're quiet #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @Mike_Jung It's balance btwn plot and character. Not every book strikes that balance, hence categorization. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong @JeanGiardina I definitely see CHAOS as loud. The dramatic illustrations give me the loud in Monster. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @dianezahler Pretty much the same as other chatters, I guess. Loud=action, quiet=thinkering. ;-) #MGlitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @gilkatgil Which is a shame because there's a whole audience out there being ignored to some extent. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
dianezahler Is "quiet" a story in which the action is mostly psychological and internal and "loud" a story in which it's mostly external? #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @ilanawaters I don't see why. Shy, introverted readers read plenty of adventure-y world-saving genre books. #MGlitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina Sometimes it seems that I write how I feel: like a quite person in a loud world. #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS @KDuBayGillis Is there anyone who's doing the opposite? Adding moments of quiet to a loud book? And how do you do it? #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss It's really about keeping the reader engaged & connected - quiet has to be done well, maybe loud is easier coz of the action #mglitchat -7:18 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Found this great interview with agent Erin Murphy and @yourbuffalo on adding loud to quiet books http://t.co/GPIGj0QC #mglitchat -7:19 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @NatalieLorenzi But I agree, it's all about pacing. You need those character beats for the action parts to matter. #mglitchat -7:19 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz I think voice might be a big part of what makes a quiet book work. If the voice shines, so does the book. #MGlitchat -7:20 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @Jenlinlong Great point. Those illustrations could be a chat in their own right. Very loud. Gripping. #mglitchat -7:20 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @jessStorkwrites I think you add quiet by adding interiority and emotional arcs between the action #mglitchat -7:20 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz (But plot is important, too.) #MGlitchat -7:20 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil I would say Hugo was a loud book told from a quiet POV. Great mix. #mglitchat -7:20 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone Is tweetchat slow or is it just me? #mglitchat -7:21 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil I see books like Hunger Games as raucously loud, but there are some quiet connecting moments in there. Books can't be 1-note. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Only I like to think so, lol RT @ilanawaters @PippaBayliss I like this line of thinking! You=smart! You must be introverted. ;-) #MGlitchat -7:21 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @elliefalcone @gilkatgil YES! I feel like I've been trying to tell people this for years. This is why movies w/car crashes... #MGlitchat -7:21 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis My MG WIP has the potential to slide to the quiet side, so I'm adding more stakes/tension to add loud bursts. #mglitchat -7:21 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jerameykraatz @jessStorkwrites I try to get a solid quiet moment for every loud one. A meaningful convo for every explosion. #MGlitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @mikegrinti @NatalieLorenzi I wonder if there's a certain type of characters in fast-fast-fast books. What do you think? #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @elliefalcone @gilkatgil ...triumph over art films. #MGlitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites After first drafts, I sometimes need to go back and tame the action with more internal issues #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @jessStorkwrites @KDuBayGillis Maybe more reflection about the action? The effect of it? It's hard because it has to "fit" #MGLitChat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen @elissacruz Agreed. I'd add that the voice in any kind of book (if it is the right voice) is what makes it shine. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn Now I'm second-guessing myself...is my loud book quiet? Any 1st POV of a 12 y.o. girl is going to have beaucoup interiority. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil @elissacruz Yes - well put - voice is it, and screaming 100% or whispering 100% is not compelling. #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis RT @kellandrewsPA: @jessStorkwrites I think you add quiet by adding interiority and emotional arcs between the action #mglitchat -7:22 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble Has "volume" changed over the years? Are Harry and Percy louder than Narnia? #mglitchat -7:23 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil I think that's what makes Hunger Games stick so much... the quiet attention to the effect the plot has on Katniss. #mglitchat -7:23 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS @KDuBayGillis My new book has several moments like this. Usually when MC is in trubs, thinking...#MGlitchat -7:23 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
story_queen @gilkatgil Yes. And I would consider HG to be very High Concept, too. #mglitchat -7:23 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS @KDuBayGillis ...how in the hell am I going to get OUT of this? Or: this is crappy. Really crappy. #MGlitchat -7:23 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @gailecn That's a thought: Does POV make a difference? #mglitchat -7:24 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @garbergrumble I feel like there is a lot of quiet to Narnia... #MGLitChat -7:24 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong Too often when quiet is added to loud books, it comes across as cheesy and forced. Time out for emotion? #mglitchat -7:24 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites How is a measure of learning more about the character as I draft. On rewrite, I find places to expand quiet #mglitchat -7:24 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @kellandrewsPA Great thought. I love when the emotional arcs are caused by the action, the change in the character's life. #mglitchat -7:24 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @elissacruz Agree! Well done voice, either quiet or loud, pulls the book up. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @garbergrumble I do think volume has changed. Life in general has become loud, and it affects everything, including books. #MGlitchat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS An agent said today to get your MC in lots of trouble if you feel book is too quiet. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @garbergrumble IMO volume has changed. I blame it on TRANSFORMERS. If something isn't exploding, no one is paying attention. #mglitchat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @Jenlinlong Right- it has to be true to the character, and if they are not quiet, it won't read well. #MGLitChat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @kellandrewsPA Maybe it's because the boisterous MCs have such an interesting voice? #mglitchat -7:25 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @jessStorkwrites Maybe! Sometimes very action/plot oriented books try to have very blank-slate-seeming characters... #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @jessStorkwrites A good example is @Nikkiloftin's SINISTER SWEETNESS OF SPLENDID ACADEMY - a loud, high-concept book but with ... #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @elissacruz @garbergrumble And this could be why kids might welcome quieter books. To help turn down the volume around them. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @jessStorkwrites ...but that's not an approach to even big, adventure-y books that I like. Not a fan of supposedly-blank-slate. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @garbergrumble Gadz, yes! Narnia's appeal is the world, same with Harry - Percy & others face much bigger issues #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil @KDuBayGillis A good point. #mglitchat -7:26 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @JeanGiardina Yes. Everything is Star Wars. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @elissacruz agree, what may have been an adventurous, loud read for one generation looks downright quaint to the next #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @elliefalcone I think it's prob easier to do quiet with 1st POV and loud with 3rd. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman Any tips on how to approach this? I'm struggling with that right now. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA ... a lot of emotional depth and growth to the main character within the fantastic premise (Hansel and Gretel retelling) #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis Really? Quieter books seem to be exactly the kind of volume they'd want to turn down. Too much real emotion. #mglitchat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @kellandrewsPA EVERYBODY MUST BE HAPPY AND SPUNKY!!!!!!!!! Or else... #mglitchat I like the quiet characters and their POV. -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS Do you think kids skip more text in quiet books? #MGLitChat -7:27 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @Bec_AS @garbergrumble NARNIA!!! #MGlitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn RT @KDuBayGillis: An agent said today to get your MC in lots of trouble if you feel book is too quiet. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @mikegrinti Probably absolutely depends on the kid...and where they are at in their lives. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @gailecn That's what I'm thinking. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @Bec_AS I think kids skip text in loooong expository writing. Not the same as quiet. Quiet can be spare. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis I liked escape. Real emotions, but in a loud other-place that made them okay. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis Quite true. And I think kids bounce around, some more some less. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @gailecn This is my approach. That a kid can be quiet and slip quietly into disaster. #mglitchat -7:28 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @KDuBayGillis @jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS Hmmm...if *you* feel it's too quiet, or *they* feel it's too quiet? #MGlitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS @KDuBayGillis So right! Especially if MC is not prone to internal brooding... lol it really has to fit. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA Can't wait to read @nikkiloftin SINISTER SWEETNESS OF SPLENDID ACADEMY. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @elissacruz @garbergrumble Sister, you speak the truth! #MGlitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @coachhays64 Yes, full of spunk with quirks a-poppin' and all kinds of unusual interests #mglitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong @Bec_AS I think they skip more when action sequences go on for pages. Riordon, I'm looking at you. #mglitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @gailecn @elliefalcone Quiet is easier to present and control in 1st person, don't you think? #mglitchat -7:29 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @jessStorkwrites I found it easier to write a MC with a boisterous voice & harder to write a shy MC. #mglitchat -7:30 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites I find a breathing spot, walk away and figure what MC, actually all characters might be thinking and run w/it #mglitchat -7:30 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Newbery winners...have a track record of being considered quietish books? I'm thinking yes. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @coachhays64 @gailecn @elliefalcone Actually, I find 3rd person easier to write, period. Quiet or loud. #MGlitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @jessStorkwrites I don't know -- I often find boisterous characters annoying. Maybe that's adult me reading #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @gailecn 1st person, or 3rd close, can be wonderful for that. See: Wonder. Shy MC, but super loud inside his head :D #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @LaurelSnyder I like that! #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
   
KDuBayGillis With the exception of HOLES and WHEN YOU REACH ME. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
RosanneParry @LaurelSnyder @Bec_AS Kids skip text for different reasons, some skip the fights, some the suspense, some skip the sad parts. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @coachhays64 Yep, I think so too. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
WendyMartinArt @jodyfeldman I just returned a book to the library without finishing. I just couldn't care what happened to the characters. #mglitchat -7:31 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis When You Reach Me is quiet. #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @LaurelSnyder @JeanGiardina Hmm it's sad if you look @ the old star wars & the new. Less character development more crashes. #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites & get to the heart of their emotions and figure out a way to show it and quietly, but briefly, move story along #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @JeanGiardina @elissacruz yes, that was your cue! #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Ditto - quiet VOICE is hard @jessStorkwrites I found it easier to write a MC with a boisterous voice & harder to write a shy MC. #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong @KDuBayGillis Graveyard Book #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @kellandrewsPA I have that problem too. It usually feels forced and phony for some reason. #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gilkatgil @jessStorkwrites I agree! I can't follow half the new star wars stuff - so many characters in and out... #mglitchat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @WendyMartinArt I hate not finishing one that I started, even if I skim to the end! LOL #MGLitChat -7:32 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA See, I don't think so. I think the twists of it make it not so quiet. How about elevated inside voice? #mglitchat -7:33 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @kellandrewsPA @Nikkiloftin Thanks for the tip! #mglitchat I'll check that out. -7:33 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @WendyMartinArt Which is a huge problem. In fact, thought I had a new MC, but realized I didn't care enough about him; he's gone #mglitchat -7:33 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
WendyMartinArt @Bec_AS I tried a lot. But it was due and I just wasn't interested enough to renew it. #MGLitChat -7:33 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @coachhays64 @gailecn @elliefalcone I think 3rd person close is easier. Gives just a smidge of distance to the emotion. #mglitchat -7:33 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
lisabrowndraws I would not call Cleary quiet. Ramona is LOUD. RT @garbergrumble: can we call Beverly Cleary quiet and Rick Riordan loud? #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Quiet books written well are often so much more powerful & memorable than the high concept, loud, books imo #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @elissacruz HA! Definitely know what you mean. #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
chorkie Ready for a stereotype? Girls like quiet books and boys like loud books. #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis Quiet books have twists too. Quiet books can be grippingly plotted -- it doesn't mean boring or aimless! #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @KDuBayGillis @ilanawaters @Bec_AS haha nice thought #mglitchat -7:34 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
lisabrowndraws I'd call Dahl loud, maybe EB White quiet. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @chorkie LOL Not this girl. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
CarrieFryerRice RT @chorkie: Ready for a stereotype? Girls like quiet books and boys like loud books. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @chorkie I would usually agree, though my 12yo daughter loves action over "boring" quiet books #MGLitChat -7:35 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @JeanGiardina @coachhays64 @elliefalcone Interesting! I'm opposite - find 1st POV easier b/c I'm right inside the MC's head. #mglitchat -7:35 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @lisabrowndraws @garbergrumble What about Beezus? She wasn't loud...#MGlitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @lisabrowndraws Yes, I'd agree, for the most part. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 RT @lisabrowndraws: I'd call Dahl loud, maybe EB White quiet. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman Then there's Cynthia Lord who writes powerful, quiet novels; but her PBs are much louder #mglitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis A lot of different things that we consider loud/quiet: concept, voice, plot, character driven. We need to blend and balance. #mglitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @PippaBayliss Conversely, a mediocre quiet book is boring, but a mediocre loud book can hold attention. Quiet must clear high bar #mglitchat -7:36 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @gailecn I find 1st easier to execute b/c it simplifies POV, but it limits what you can access, and makes things harder that way. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @lisabrowndraws finding it had to categorize, Stuart little lived pretty loud! #mglitchat -7:37 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Has anyone read both OLIVE'S OCEAN and SUMMER OF THE GYPSY MOTHS? #mglitchat -7:37 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss It's hard to infuse quiet MCs with big personalities but Ramona, Junie B Jones, Doug Swieteck are perfect. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @kellandrewsPA I think this is true! Kids will sit for bad prose that explodes. #mglitchat -7:37 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @Bec_AS @chorkie Also w/my 13-y-o daughter! Tore thru HUNGER GAMES, & now no other books live up to those plotlines. *sigh* #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @kellandrewsPA Ain't that the truth. Le sigh. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @gilkatgil I try... for the new generation's sake. Even dressed up like Padme for the library Star Wars event. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti I kind of feel we're conflating a bunch of stuff that isn't necessarily related, eg. pacing, character development, scope... #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @garbergrumble But the tone of his journey was quieter. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @kellandrewsPA @PippaBayliss Well said! #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder I don't think slow and quiet are the same. #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti Also tone! Since @garbergrumble just mentioned it hehe #mglitchat -7:38 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA @PippaBayliss Heard this today from agent. Quiet must clear a higher bar. More difficult sell/market. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone RT @LaurelSnyder: I dont think slow and quiet are the same. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman Thanks for the advice. I think this will help with my editing. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @NatalieLorenzi @Bec_AS @chorkie Just the opposite here. My 11yo daughter read 25 pages and put it down. Too intense. #mglitchat -7:39 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
garbergrumble @LaurelSnyder that's a key distinction, quiet hero in a loud world vs. Loud hero in a loud world. #mglitchat -7:40 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @mikegrinti Maybe true, but all can (and do) contribute to a quiet or a loud book. It's not just whispers or explosions. #MGlitchat -7:40 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws But "Danny, Champion of the World" wasn't loud...Sorry. Contrary tonight. #MGlitchat -7:40 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder Sometimes quiet just means "no obvious marketing hooks" #mglitchat -7:40 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @LaurelSnyder True. When You Reach Me is fast paced and I think of that as quiet. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @JeanGiardina @NatalieLorenzi @Bec_AS @chorkie I wouldn't have believed that was even possible to put those down!! :) #MGLitChat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis I still go back to high-concept/commercial as a loud book with less commercial as quiet. #mglitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @garbergrumble @lisabrowndraws Ha-ha--gotta love that little mouse! Him and Despereaux--2 of my fav. kid rodents. #MGlitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites Glad to help. I tend to learn more about my characters when I'm away from the story; when they invade my walks #mglitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis RT @kellandrewsPA: @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder Sometimes quiet just means "no obvious marketing hooks" #mglitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Ah! Penny drops - agree! @laurelsnyder: Sometimes quiet just means "no obvious marketing hooks" #mglitchat -7:41 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Is the Hobbit loud or quiet? It sure is slow ... #mglitchat -7:42 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder No obvious marketing hooks = some quiet books is something I get. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites You are a good librarian! #MGlitchat -7:42 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Jenlinlong @KDuBayGillis I'm reading Summer of the Gypsy Moths and it's not quiet. #mglitchat -7:42 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @kellandrewsPA @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder In loud books, the world is at stake; in quiet books, the MC's world is at stake. #mglitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites Tsk. The people in one's head can be so inconsiderate that way. #MGlitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman Yeah, I took some time away from the story for a fresh perspective. Now I need a strategy to go back in. #mglitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder Yes, yes, and yes. I think this is what agents really mean. #MGlitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @elissacruz I agree. Just not sure how useful it is to talk about these things in such a conflated way, vs breaking them out more #MGlitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @Bec_AS @NatalieLorenzi @chorkie Just goes to show that not every book, even a HUGE commercial one, is for every reader. #mglitchat -7:43 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder I think we mean altogether different things by quiet. ACTION is one kind of loud. Big character is another. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @kellandrewsPA @elliefalcone @laurelsnyder So, part of our job is to think of those hooks to avoid the "too quiet" thing. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @laurelsnyder is brilliant RT @laurelsnyder In loud books, the world is at stake; in quiet books, the MCs world is at stake. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @NatalieLorenzi That's probably the best description I've heard so far. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters @jodyfeldman That's how you know you're a writer: if you have voices in your head. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @mikegrinti Yeah, I understand what you mean. #MGlitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @PippaBayliss Embarassed to admit I've never read the Hobbit...or any of LOTR... #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis RT @LaurelSnyder: I think we mean altogether different things by quiet. ACTION is one kind of loud. Big character is another. #mglitchat -7:44 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters We're all about the life long love of learning at the library. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @PippaBayliss I didn't say that! But it's smart. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Hahahaaaa! RT @jessStorkwrites: @ilanawaters @jodyfeldman Thats how you know youre a writer: if you have voices in your head. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @ilanawaters :) Tell me about it #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters @jodyfeldman ...or you could be crazy. Just saying. :) #MGLitChat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @mikegrinti @elissacruz I think one benefit is for people who fear the "too quiet" lable to think about how to address it. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @KDuBayGillis Ach, I refuse to approach it that way. Thinking about marketing before I write is death of my sanity. #mglitchat -7:45 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @ilanawaters @lisabrowndraws Yes, that is an outlier. But, in general. Dahl = Loud and White = Quiet over their bodies of work. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KarenninaPosa Esp. if they talk louder than you do RT @jessStorkwrites Thats how you know youre a writer: if you have voices in your head. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone Ain't it da truth! RT @jessStorkwrites: That's how you know you're a writer: if you have voices in your head. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @gailecn Me, neither, but I feel like I should. Right after I start those Harry Potter books. #MGLitChat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis I think marketing hooks are why quirks come in. Pitch is "kid who's into weird thing does X," not "kid who does X" #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder I think often the conflict in a quiet book is in layers, depth. Often in a loud book it's on the surface. But not always! #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @jessStorkwrites It helps me is to write an entirely new scene which may/may not ever make the cut, just to get back into voice #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @PippaBayliss @Laurel Snyder That would mean that most contemporary MG is quiet...and most fantasy MG is loud. #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss hey, don't be embarrassed It needs Peter Jackson's editing touch ;) RT @gailecn: Embarassed to admit Ive never read the Hobbit... #mglitchat -7:46 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder I agree. But I like to be anticipatory. : ) #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS @ilanawaters @jodyfeldman I like to think I'm both. It makes me feel better. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder Reading LIWilder aloud to my kids now. Those are some quiet books with a ton of action. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters @jodyfeldman Is it also a requirement for the voices to talk to each other? #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @Bec_AS I like that you're going in chronological publication order. ;) #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @elliefalcone Thanks! My MG had "too quiet" rejections for ages,then Kirkus & PW describe it as "quiet" in a good way. Go figure. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss Hands up whoever DID say it! I wanna know ... RT @LaurelSnyder: @PippaBayliss I didnt say that! But its smart. #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
mikegrinti @KDuBayGillis Point taken! #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @Bec_AS @jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters Then there are many, many of us who are certifiable #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @gailecn And that's true -- most contemp is quiet unless it has a huge hook #mglitchat -7:47 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman Ooooo! Great idea. I'm going to try that. Thanks! #mglitchat -7:48 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @Bec_AS Or, backwards chornological...ugh confusing myself now! #mglitchat -7:48 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @gailecn I think that's how a lot of people would classify them. It takes drama or BIG character to make contemp feel loud. #mglitchat -7:48 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @coachhays64 @lisabrowndraws Okay, I will concede that point to you. Mostly b/c you are right. *mutters to self* #mglitchat -7:48 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jerameykraatz @LaurelSnyder I was just thinking that! Quiet is the action between the lines. #MGlitchat -7:48 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @LaurelSnyder Just lurve LIWilder #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi That's interesting. Did you revise to those "too quiet" rejections or stay true to your vision of your book? #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jodyfeldman @coachhays64 Not a requirement, but a wonderfully noisy option #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman That...or you're schizophrenic. ;-) #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @PippaBayliss @LaurelSnyder I think it was @kellandrewsPA #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites Librarians ROCK. That's why my MC is one. #mglitchat -7:49 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz (psst. Just thought I'd share that #MGlitchat is on my trending list again this week. GO MG!) #MGlitchat -7:50 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @NatalieLorenzi @elliefalcone The world likes to contradict itself all the time. I'm glad you stuck with it. #mglitchat -7:50 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @PippaBayliss That was me. :-) Flattered to have been confused with @LaurelSnyder though. :-) #mglitchat -7:50 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @coachhays64 @jessStorkwrites @jodyfeldman Well, it'd be hard to have pages of worthy dialogue without them! ;-P #mglitchat -7:50 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss @NatalieLorenzi Thank you! #mglitchat -7:50 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Good interview with agent Erin Murphy and Audrey Vernick on amping up quiet books. http://t.co/GPIGj0QC #mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis I added another main character, actually--single to dual POV. Didn't make it louder, but added more depth...#mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @NatalieLorenzi I am flattered to have been mistaken for the clever mind behind this (and also your book looks great!) #mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @KDuBayGillis @pippabayliss @laurelsnyder It wasn't me! Sorry, that's a reflex. It was. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @LaurelSnyder @KDuBayGillis Yes--and the death of originality and artistic integrity at the same time! 3 innocent birds, 1 stone. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters Ok, so I have to come clean... technically I'm a Library Associate. It's like ninjas for the library. #mglitchat -7:51 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder One thing we haven't talked about: how, when you're writing a book that feels quiet, there are moments you feel it gets TOO LOUD. #mglitchat -7:52 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jgetzler RT @elissacruz: (psst. Just thought I'd share that #MGlitchat is on my trending list again this week. GO MG!) #MGlitchat -7:52 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters WE ninjas work there and look like librarians, but aren't actual librarians. #mglitchat -7:52 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @kellandrewsPA Maybe it was me who said something else. Which something else was it? #mglitchat -7:52 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn @jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters Ninjas for the library! Love it! I want that job... #mglitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites There's no shame! I'm sure you wield a mean set a'nunchucks! #mglitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 I was trying to think of 100% quiet and all that popped into my head was the comedy of Stephen Wright. Now I'm laughing loudly. #mglitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS @jessStorkwrites Libraries have ninjas? That must help in getting boys to go to the library to read. #MGLitChat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @LaurelSnyder Or, conversely, when you're writing a loud book that you feel is too quiet. #MGlitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder LIke with hookers and drinking? : ) #mglitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elliefalcone @jessStorkwrites I'm a cataloger but can I be a ninja instead? #mglitchat -7:53 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Now I have to know which character...reading now! #mglitchat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @LaurelSnyder But please don't tell me to add more explosions. ;) #MGlitchat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
PippaBayliss g2g - been great tweetchatting with you all. Have a good week! #mglitchat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @elissacruz Yes, probably. But I do find I try to "even it out." In current book I dropped a scene that was just too BIG. #mglitchat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi Thanks, @LaurelSnyder! My students and I are big fans of your books, btw. :-) #mglitchat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
   
Bec_AS @elissacruz Oooh- now that is a biggie! That can be a problem... #MGLitChat -7:54 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @KDuBayGillis Um, yes, exactly. But they were classy in 1937. #mglitchat -7:55 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder Whah? Hookers & drinking in #MGlitchat? Where was I? *looks around* (quiet voice) I didn't bring any hookers. -7:55 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Quick plug for next week's chat: book clubs/book groups. Join @AnshaKotyk and @DanyelleLeafty for another great #mglitchat. -7:55 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @elliefalcone Yes! Let's star an alliance. LIBRARY NINJAS steathily stamping your books. #mglitchat -7:56 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @NatalieLorenzi That makes me immensely happy. We should skype sometime. They must be FREAKING out about yours, huh? #mglitchat -7:56 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Bec_AS I've got to go, too. This was such a great chat this week. Thank you, everyone!! #MGLitChat -7:56 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @elissacruz Yeah, that's not my MO. But maybe I should try. <adds explosions> #mglitchat -7:56 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz @LaurelSnyder You're right, it is about finding that balance. It takes skill (of which I may or may not possess) to find it. #MGlitchat -7:56 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA @LaurelSnyder @kdubaygillis And if not classy, often quiet. #mglitchat -7:57 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder @ilanawaters You can have one of mine. I always bring extra. (but actually I did have a brothel scene) #mglitchat -7:57 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS We're the best kind of ninjas, we're so stealthy, you don't even know were ninjas. #mglitchat -7:57 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
AngieEverReady Hello all: #knightauthor | #storydam | #mglitchat | .... #chicklitchat ~~~> http://t.co/5EOGMYO5 Some "chick lit" :) -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @JeanGiardina My productive night just turned south because I found this: http://t.co/ze3nj22S So quiet, yet so funny. #mglitchat -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Thanks to everyone who joined us this week. Love chatting with all you smart MG people! #mglitchat -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
gailecn Great chat, y'all. See you next week! #mglitchat -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @KDuBayGillis Skye used to be Susan, a mean girl in Hiroshi's class. She kept insisting she had a story to tell, & she did! ;-) #mglitchat -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites @ilanawaters Right next to my book scanner. Of course the pen is mightier than the nunchucks. #mglitchat -7:58 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis Oh, and @kurtisscaletta, I think you were right. We've decided it is a false dichotomy. #quietandloud #mglitchat -7:59 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
LaurelSnyder Super fun! Thanks to everyone. See you again soon. Now off to read Out of the Easy. Dipping my toe into YA. #mglitchat -7:59 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 RT @KDuBayGillis: Thanks to everyone who joined us this week. Love chatting with all you smart MG people! #mglitchat -7:59 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites @Bec_AS ROTF! And in Washington, a lot of people wear black. THEY DON'T KNOW YOU'RE IN DISGUISE!! #mglitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung Sorry, had a screaming child intervention, but make sure you read @NatalieLorenzi's FLYING THE DRAGON. It's quiet, and exquisite. #mglitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina @coachhays64 I love this so much! #mglitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
NatalieLorenzi @LaurelSnyder They'd LOVE a Skype visit w/you! Will email you soon. They are freaking out about FTD--so much fun for me to see. #mglitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @LaurelSnyder Oh, phew! For a second I thought I'd be caught at a chat w/o a hooker wait a brothel in an MG novel?? #mglitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
elissacruz Another great chat, as usual. Thanks again for participating. Thanks, too, to the lurkers. Y'all come back next week, ya hear? #MGlitchat -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
coachhays64 @ilanawaters @KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder These are the reasons #mglitchat keeps trending every Thursday evening. Cutting edge middle grade. -8:00 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
JeanGiardina G'night all! You inspire me every week. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @Mike_Jung @NatalieLorenzi Which means quiet with well-placed bursts of loud, right? #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
kellandrewsPA Thanks everyone! Lots of fun. I thought of typing in ALL CAPS but that would have been too loud #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
jessStorkwrites I'm so glad I got off early from work today, it was great to be a part of the #mglitchat thanks guys. Ninja out. -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters @jessStorkwrites You are getting so funny that I may have to read your blog. :-) #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis @LaurelSnyder Scandalous. #mglitchat -8:01 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
KDuBayGillis You all did it again! #mglitchat is trending. Love that. -8:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters I have to go folks. This was one of my favorite chats! Thank you, hostesses! And, er, also (quiet voice) book launch this week. #mglitchat -8:02 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
ilanawaters Would I be totally gauche if I gave myself a tiny plug? #mglitchat http://t.co/vtnn8ubs *runs away* -8:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012
  
Mike_Jung @KDuBayGillis @NatalieLorenzi Quiet is the obvious way to describe it, but it has big themes and very cool aerial kite combat. #mglitchat -8:03 PM Aug 23rd, 2012

1 comment:

  1. Sorry I missed this! Looks like a lot of fun. And I definitely fall into the quiet book camp!

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